Why are PUA allowed to say their entitled to sex?

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Dear Alex,

Would you please introduce a "New members first two posts to be moderated before appearing on the forum" rule, to avoid all those spammers?

Thank you,
smudge.

I really wasn't aware of the existence of PUA groups until recently and when I got onto their forums, blogs and whatnot I just couldn't stop laughing for a few evenings, when I was browsing them. The amount of venom, woman-hating, narcissistic ego trips and pathetic, nonsensical life advice was staggering. For some reason I found it incredibly funny.

The only part that was actually worth applying in your life (anybody's life) was some aspects of cultivating and strengthening your "inner game". Not bad at all. I read many articles about it and I could adopt some techniques in my life and I'm a woman.

So yeah, you may feel entitled to sex, I'm entitled to one of your kidneys. Gimme kidney, now! *facepalm*

Perceived entitlement involving other people's bodies is just something very low, so I do hope those guys will realize at some point they are not entitled to sex. Not even from their wives. Nobody.
Maybe apart from the time when they pay for a service, the payment has been taken and an agreement has been made, with full consent. But then they're not entitled to all kinds of sexual services, only the ones they agreed about anyway.

Nobody is entitled to sex.

I find it laughable, that when there's any criticism of women, or so called "woman hating", the moderators immidiately run in to lock down threads. But when women on this forum talk about men in very condescending ways, the moderators are nowhere to be found.

I think the philosopher friedrich nietzsche was right when he said most people are morons, and have no objective sense of morality.

I think I have seen threads locked for both...

Saying that strangers aren't entitled to my body is man-hating and condescending? Who knew.

Nothing has been said against OP or men, only against PUA tactics.

Can some of you guys stop treating your virginity like it is some law?

Thanks for putting words in my mouth.

There was no specific context, other than the mods flying into this thread, like I've seen with many other threads lately.

I agree with OP much more than I would like to. I think society is more quick to punch down than up and more quick to vilify "Beta" men who have had little to no romantic or sexual experience who do as much as voice their pain of rejection than sexually experienced and entitled "Alpha" men who use and abuse many women as conquests and objects. The "Betas" (including myself) are more often seen as "creepy," "rapey," and "stalkerish" because of their social awkwardness and Asperger's which make them convenient scapegoats as well.

I think they usually mean it doesn't work for relationships...getting laid and getting into a relationship are different things. Of course it works to get laid...then the guy can just ghost the woman after they have sex, or maybe string her along for multiple sessions until they get bored and move on to the next unsuspecting woman.

Of course then woman who want a relationship(not just getting laid) learn things like not having sex on the first date, to sort of weed out guys who'd just want to get laid and aren't being up front about that fact. Nothing wrong with casual commitment free sex provided both people know that is what it is...but PUA encourages being misleading and that is problematic.

What's a PUA?

Pick up Artist.

Yeah, something like this:


Girls just love it!

Ok, I have to give you that one. If that's what it takes, sign me up!

Being rich and doing stuff that puts your life in extreme danger is a huge plus.

The truck is done for, I'm afraid. And that thing is at least $35k-$40k. Too rich for me! And the driver USED to have a spine. lol Hope it was worth it!

Nah, girls tend to be averse to stupidity. Maybe good for a night of sex, but that's about it.

Loved the dialog in the clip, though. Sounds like people where I live. "Sheeeeeyiiiittt! And "aaaaaairrrrrrrrrrrrbaaaaagggg"

That cracked me up!