Frankly, some women on date are uber rude.

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Tbh, the "gf one" did bring along a friend too; but it was only over a coffee...so ok.

It happened even with Lebanese dates before, it's actually a common thing for first dates here, I don't know why, maybe it's a safety measure - and I do know that the wing-woman evaluates the guy "objectively" and would give her opinion on him.
It's not the bringing friend part which annoyed me, but the ordering for fancy things part; and expecting the man to pay all; those two Indonesians were just too much.

The 7-languages girl doesn't even allow me to pay anything, she is very insisting on the splitting - good.

I understand bringing a friend, however I would never expect my date to pay for my friend. In the U.S. when the food is being ordered, you can direct the server to split the bill. If, in the future, she shows up with a friend, perhaps you can direct the waiter to split the bill two ways so you only pay for yourself and your date, or even three ways so each person pays for themselves.

How do you think you'll acquire relationship experience if you don't want to get into one?

Via temporary ones of course; by 'real serious relationship' i mean something that ends up with marriage.

Were you going to be serious with that gf if she weren't going to leave the country? And will you keep seeing her if you get on other dates with the 7 languages girl?

Umm...I don't think so.



Nope, I shouldn't.

Yup, I keep the dates, to coffee only. And I have found the younger, girls, they love to convert the coffee dates into lunches or dinner, and they get free meals and just walk off. Never again. So now when I say coffee, only they suddenly, appear to not be interested. Free loafers!

Bit of a sidenote, but Boo, have you read any Feynman? Specifically "Surely you're joking, Mr. Feyman?". The mans life is fascinating in plenty of ways, but the chapter on dating was awesome, and mildly related.

That's why in my final months of dating I refused to have a meal for a date. Starbucks was the most expensive place I was willing to go. I *did* treat my lady on date #2 though but only because I wanted to, not because I felt obligated to.

I once went on a date where after I paid the bill, she immediately got up, said "I-have-to-go-right-now-thanks-see-you" and when I got up and followed her out to see if she was okay, she ran down the busy downtown street like I was going to drug her. I've said it before and I will say it again. There is a usually a GOOD reason these women are on dating sites for months or years at a time.

I was on okcupid for years, and I cannot recall acting that way on dates. I did ditch one guy after he made me uncomfortable the second time we got together and just kind of rubbed me the wrong way...like he didn't even seem like the same person I met the first time. IDK you might be missing out if you just assume any women who's been on the site for months or years at a time is batsh*t crazy. It can also just take time to find a compatible person, and leaving it up and checking it from time to time is much more convenient than deleting it, then making a new one over and over.

The girl who is leaving for Turkey in 9 months.....sounds really swell for you.

Sounds like somebody I wouldn't have minded having a whirl with

And she's intelligent, too!

They had this expression in the 1950s: "You've got it made in the shade!" It means the same thing as "you're in like Flynn."

That's very true but in my experience, the good profiles only stayed up for a few weeks. My wife only had hers up for about 4 weeks and that's only because I took 2 weeks to write her back. I certainly agree you should never automatically assume that someone on a dating site a long time is a bad match or crazy (I certainly wasn't!) but more often that not, in my experience a woman on there for than a couple of months is almost always one of the following:

* Too independent/emotionally unavailable (I dated one of them for a few months. Ugh.)
* World travelers who must have mounds of debt yet still want a family (who might try to fit you in her plans)
* Already married..... to her career
* Snotty, entitled attitude (usually under 30)
* Bitter and jaded, usually divorced (usually over 30)
* VERY long and specific laundry list that no human being could possibly meet

Still, I never automatically assumed any of these things, I only learned through years of painful experience.

Sweetleaft; as if I have proven it to you before; men outnumber women by at least 9 to 1 on dating sites.

Therefore women literally received hundreds and even thousands of advances within a year.

So of she can't find a good bf among this *tons* of options then frankly it's very likely that something is wrong with her.

but you must consider the quality of this contact – very few are serious or able to keep a conversation.

Even the 10% of your contacts exceeds by far the contacts most guys have on dating sites. Let's say only 10% of the guys there are good and the rest are jerks.

I have created once a fake female profile in a dating site; I got 1400+ messages in a single week, a week! the 140 out of those is still too much!

was the girl on your fake profile a model like or an average looking girl? how was her personality?