Trump Wants Solar Panels For Border Wall

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...the cartels you mention don't operate in this country, they operate in Mexico...

Mexican TCOs, also known as cartels, control drug trafficking of heroin, methamphetamine, cocaine and marijuana across the Southwest border of the U.S. and throughout much of the country.

Cartels are currently working to expand their U.S. presence, particularly into the country’s heroin markets, the DEA reports.

In 2014 there were nine major cartels operating in Mexico and the United States. The Sinaloa Cartel currently dominates the largest region of influence and power among all nine.

The Sinaloa Cartel “leverages its expansive resources and dominance in Mexico” to smuggle and transport drugs throughout the U.S., according to the DEA.

Who says they have to be installed on top and not in a solar farm on empty land?

First: what do you think happens when there's a wall? People find a way around it, through the Gulf, the Atlantic, the Pacific, Canada, or just dig under the wall, like they're already doing. A wall does nothing to stop the raw economics of the matter, which drive people to come here. A wall didn't stop the Celts from eventually running over the Romans in the British Isles, it didn't stop Kublai Kahn and his Mongol horde from eventually conquering China, it didn't stop the Trojans from being conquered by the Mycenaeans, nor the Persians from entering Greece through Thermopylae, and if you want to go biblical it didn't stop Jericho from being overran-- and it won't stop immigration here. "Great walls" have a dismal success rate. That's why taking the jobs away is key, it cuts right into the economics of the matter: no demand, no immigrants, as easy as that.

Second: you know nothing about me, I work in agriculture, on a medium size plot that produces hydroponic tomatoes and peppers. I probably have 10x the vested interest in seeing illegal immigration stopped than you do asshat. That's why I care about solutions that actually work, not meaningless symbols that just make people 'feel' better about the situation. Do you even work? Or are you one those millennial snowflakes that still lives with mom and dad with no world experience that just happens to think they know it all? Because you certainly sound like it. I work, and I work f*****g hard for a payday that gets smaller and smaller each season because of this very issue.

That said the racist tactics your Sheriff Joe used (just stop every Mexican you see and deport) are not the answer. Why? Because I live in an area with a large hispanic population, and they were here well before white people were-- as is your area (we only live about 300 miles apart as the crow flies). I went to school with them, I grew up with them, and they're completely 'Americanized' and you know who hates illegal immigrants more than anyone? Those hispanics that have been in the Southwest for literally 300 years. They hate it, they hate people speaking Spanish to them because most don't know it, they hate going into jobs and automatically getting offered less because it's 'assumed' they're illegal, they hate Cinco D'Mayo because they were never Mexican to begin with and they don't like the baggage that comes with it, and they hate having 150 years of progress working towards respect in American culture just flushed down the drain by people they don't even see related to them. My next door neighbor growing up, who was the closest thing I've had to a brother, voted for Pat Buchanon in the 2000 election precisely because of this issue and a large part of his family did as well. Flash forward 15 years and Kenny (with a Hispanic name like that you can just tell he's not 'integrated' huh?) won't vote that side again due to the increase in racial profiling that affects him and his family due to the policies your side advocates for. It's a shame, I don't agree with Republicans on much, but this is one issue you're correct on and you guys completely bungle it up by false assumptions (paragraph above) and a healthy dose of racial tension thrown into the mix, which turns off what would be a core support group to get this issue over the top: generations old Americans that just happen to have hispanic descent.

So I say, build your wall, see what good it does for you except raise your parent's taxes, it's actually one of the least dangerous things Trump's proposed, but don't think for a minute it's going to have an impact on people actually gaining access to this country. They're here for the economics, end of story, as long as employers are allowed to hire with no repercussions there's nothing stopping illegals from doing everything possible to get here because there's a demand for them.

The entire infrastructure for those cartels is based in Mexico, yes there are distribution elements here, but the entire infrastructure is still south of the border. Voortman cookies have several distributors in the U.S., yet they're headquarters and base of operation is Canada, thus they're a Canadian company. It's the same thing, the entire infrastructure for those cartels are based south of the border, if the that infrastructure collapses so do the extended 'offices' state side. Also, going from point A to point B without side jaunts for emotional appeals is logic, it has a habit of sounding matter of fact.

A solid wall across the border would prevent movement of wildlife species that move across that area, I wonder how that might effect the ecosystem...

A solid wall across the border would prevent movement of wildlife species that move across that area, I wonder how that might effect the ecosystem...

Trump's sons might have a "humane" solution for the critters
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/ani ... 50602c72e7

Trump's sons might have a "humane" solution for the critters
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/ani ... 50602c72e7