The Internet Voice Shames Jared Kushner

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01 Jul 2017, 5:58 pm

https://www.advocate.com/commentary/201 ... -punchline

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For the first months of his father-in-law’s troubled administration, Kushner has been seen but not heard. But that changed Monday at an event for the newly created American Technology Council, where he spoke on camera about his alleged plans to modernize government computer systems and beef up cybersecurity. As soon as I heard Kushner’s light, high tenor voice, I viscerally understood why he had stayed silent for so long — and I knew what was coming next.

The Internet quickly confirmed my worst fears. “Gay as a tree full of chickadees,” one Twitter user sneered. “Jared Kushner sounds exactly like I expected him to sound – super f*****g gay,” tweeted another. Still another mocked, “Hearing his voice is a reminder that masculinity is dying. #CorruptAndEffeminate.” Late-night comedian Seth Meyers even got in on the action, joking, “[Kushner’s] title says senior adviser to the president, but his voice says senior at Claremont High School.”

On and on they went. Some insulted Kushner’s anatomy (“Dude is a eunuch. Somebody f****d up that circumcision”). Others attacked his masculinity (“Kushner is an important reminder that you can’t buy puberty”) or his sexual prowess (“After hearing Jared Kushner’s voice, I understand why Ivanka was staring at Justin Trudeau with those hungry eyes”). Many commenters questioned Kushner’s sexual orientation (“Why Jared Kushner always seem like he low key looking at your dick from one urinal over[?]”) or his gender identity (“As expected, he sounds as if he’s months into hormone replacement therapy for forthcoming sexual reassignment surgery”).


This situation shows just how little people think about the values they profess.

It also makes me think about my own voice. I sing tenor, and can hit some fairly high notes. My voice didn't change by itself. I deliberately lowered the pitch of my own voice when I got near the end of high school and realized it wasn't going to change itself. It seemed more effective, and I have the acting chops to adopt a wide range of voices, so I overcame my shyness a little and broadened my range. I feel bad, though, for folks who don't find it as easy.


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01 Jul 2017, 6:37 pm

Just continuing obsessive hatred.

And I see like other media half the Advocate's front page is filled with tabloid sounding stuff about Trump - sad.



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01 Jul 2017, 8:33 pm

jrjones9933 wrote:
https://www.advocate.com/commentary/2017/6/23/jared-kushner-apparently-has-gay-voice-and-its-punchline

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For the first months of his father-in-law’s troubled administration, Kushner has been seen but not heard. But that changed Monday at an event for the newly created American Technology Council, where he spoke on camera about his alleged plans to modernize government computer systems and beef up cybersecurity. As soon as I heard Kushner’s light, high tenor voice, I viscerally understood why he had stayed silent for so long — and I knew what was coming next.

The Internet quickly confirmed my worst fears. “Gay as a tree full of chickadees,” one Twitter user sneered. “Jared Kushner sounds exactly like I expected him to sound – super f*****g gay,” tweeted another. Still another mocked, “Hearing his voice is a reminder that masculinity is dying. #CorruptAndEffeminate.” Late-night comedian Seth Meyers even got in on the action, joking, “[Kushner’s] title says senior adviser to the president, but his voice says senior at Claremont High School.”

On and on they went. Some insulted Kushner’s anatomy (“Dude is a eunuch. Somebody f****d up that circumcision”). Others attacked his masculinity (“Kushner is an important reminder that you can’t buy puberty”) or his sexual prowess (“After hearing Jared Kushner’s voice, I understand why Ivanka was staring at Justin Trudeau with those hungry eyes”). Many commenters questioned Kushner’s sexual orientation (“Why Jared Kushner always seem like he low key looking at your dick from one urinal over[?]”) or his gender identity (“As expected, he sounds as if he’s months into hormone replacement therapy for forthcoming sexual reassignment surgery”).


This situation shows just how little people think about the values they profess.

It also makes me think about my own voice. I sing tenor, and can hit some fairly high notes. My voice didn't change by itself. I deliberately lowered the pitch of my own voice when I got near the end of high school and realized it wasn't going to change itself. It seemed more effective, and I have the acting chops to adopt a wide range of voices, so I overcame my shyness a little and broadened my range. I feel bad, though, for folks who don't find it as easy.


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MSNBC’s Chris Matthews on Trump family, Jared Kushner: ‘At least Mussolini executed his son-in-law’


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01 Jul 2017, 9:27 pm

ASPartOfMe wrote:
jrjones9933 wrote:
https://www.advocate.com/commentary/2017/6/23/jared-kushner-apparently-has-gay-voice-and-its-punchline

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For the first months of his father-in-law’s troubled administration, Kushner has been seen but not heard. But that changed Monday at an event for the newly created American Technology Council, where he spoke on camera about his alleged plans to modernize government computer systems and beef up cybersecurity. As soon as I heard Kushner’s light, high tenor voice, I viscerally understood why he had stayed silent for so long — and I knew what was coming next.

The Internet quickly confirmed my worst fears. “Gay as a tree full of chickadees,” one Twitter user sneered. “Jared Kushner sounds exactly like I expected him to sound – super f*****g gay,” tweeted another. Still another mocked, “Hearing his voice is a reminder that masculinity is dying. #CorruptAndEffeminate.” Late-night comedian Seth Meyers even got in on the action, joking, “[Kushner’s] title says senior adviser to the president, but his voice says senior at Claremont High School.”

On and on they went. Some insulted Kushner’s anatomy (“Dude is a eunuch. Somebody f****d up that circumcision”). Others attacked his masculinity (“Kushner is an important reminder that you can’t buy puberty”) or his sexual prowess (“After hearing Jared Kushner’s voice, I understand why Ivanka was staring at Justin Trudeau with those hungry eyes”). Many commenters questioned Kushner’s sexual orientation (“Why Jared Kushner always seem like he low key looking at your dick from one urinal over[?]”) or his gender identity (“As expected, he sounds as if he’s months into hormone replacement therapy for forthcoming sexual reassignment surgery”).


This situation shows just how little people think about the values they profess.

It also makes me think about my own voice. I sing tenor, and can hit some fairly high notes. My voice didn't change by itself. I deliberately lowered the pitch of my own voice when I got near the end of high school and realized it wasn't going to change itself. It seemed more effective, and I have the acting chops to adopt a wide range of voices, so I overcame my shyness a little and broadened my range. I feel bad, though, for folks who don't find it as easy.


That is nothing
MSNBC’s Chris Matthews on Trump family, Jared Kushner: ‘At least Mussolini executed his son-in-law’

The Blaze? No.


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01 Jul 2017, 11:42 pm

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During the Thursday airing of MSNBC’s “Hardball,” host Chris Matthews compared President Donald Trump and his family to both Saddam Hussein and his family, as well as Saddam Hussein and his sons, and Benito Mussolini and his familial tribe.


This is what I mean by Trump Derangement Syndrome. Not people who don't support Trump or who dislike him. I mean over the top kooky hyperbole like that.

And no, I don't think Chris Matthews is insane. I just think he those like him need to get a grip and tone it down. They're just making themselves look bad.



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02 Jul 2017, 12:11 am

Jon Oliver had had Gilbert Godfrey doing Kushner's voice. It was a riot!


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02 Jul 2017, 1:50 am

jrjones9933 wrote:
ASPartOfMe wrote:
jrjones9933 wrote:
https://www.advocate.com/commentary/2017/6/23/jared-kushner-apparently-has-gay-voice-and-its-punchline

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For the first months of his father-in-law’s troubled administration, Kushner has been seen but not heard. But that changed Monday at an event for the newly created American Technology Council, where he spoke on camera about his alleged plans to modernize government computer systems and beef up cybersecurity. As soon as I heard Kushner’s light, high tenor voice, I viscerally understood why he had stayed silent for so long — and I knew what was coming next.

The Internet quickly confirmed my worst fears. “Gay as a tree full of chickadees,” one Twitter user sneered. “Jared Kushner sounds exactly like I expected him to sound – super f*****g gay,” tweeted another. Still another mocked, “Hearing his voice is a reminder that masculinity is dying. #CorruptAndEffeminate.” Late-night comedian Seth Meyers even got in on the action, joking, “[Kushner’s] title says senior adviser to the president, but his voice says senior at Claremont High School.”

On and on they went. Some insulted Kushner’s anatomy (“Dude is a eunuch. Somebody f****d up that circumcision”). Others attacked his masculinity (“Kushner is an important reminder that you can’t buy puberty”) or his sexual prowess (“After hearing Jared Kushner’s voice, I understand why Ivanka was staring at Justin Trudeau with those hungry eyes”). Many commenters questioned Kushner’s sexual orientation (“Why Jared Kushner always seem like he low key looking at your dick from one urinal over[?]”) or his gender identity (“As expected, he sounds as if he’s months into hormone replacement therapy for forthcoming sexual reassignment surgery”).


This situation shows just how little people think about the values they profess.

It also makes me think about my own voice. I sing tenor, and can hit some fairly high notes. My voice didn't change by itself. I deliberately lowered the pitch of my own voice when I got near the end of high school and realized it wasn't going to change itself. It seemed more effective, and I have the acting chops to adopt a wide range of voices, so I overcame my shyness a little and broadened my range. I feel bad, though, for folks who don't find it as easy.


That is nothing
MSNBC’s Chris Matthews on Trump family, Jared Kushner: ‘At least Mussolini executed his son-in-law’

The Blaze? No.


Would a more progressive site be ok?


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02 Jul 2017, 8:06 am

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Ah, the tolerant left. So liberal, so freethinking.



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02 Jul 2017, 8:12 am

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In his 1991 book Trumped!, the former president of Trump Plaza Hotel & Casino, John R. O’Donnell, recalled Trump declaring that “laziness is a trait in blacks,” and exclaiming: “Black guys counting my money! I hate it. The only kind of people I want counting my money are little short guys that wear yarmulkes every day.” Trump acknowledged in a Playboy interview (5/97; cited Huffington Post, 4/29/11), “The stuff O’Donnell wrote about me is probably true.”

http://fair.org/take-action/media-advis ... of-racism/


At least, when a conservative does it, he is staying in character.



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02 Jul 2017, 9:11 am

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Weird. In terms of coverage, the first article provided more context. Reading the entire exchange, it's clear Matthews had Kushner's policy portfolio and experience in mind, but I still don't follow the logic. It doesn't really relate to the bigoted reaction to Kushner"s voice, though.


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02 Jul 2017, 3:51 pm

This was the person, who said that Barry gave him a tingle, up his leg -- criticizing someone else for effeminacy.



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02 Jul 2017, 4:29 pm

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This was the person, who said that Barry gave him a tingle, up his leg -- criticizing someone else for effeminacy.


Matthews didn't say anything about Kushner being effeminate; he just said that at least, Mussolini had had his son-in-law shot.


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02 Jul 2017, 5:27 pm

And I'm supposed to be effeminate because I'm a lyric tenor? :evil:

I DON'T THINK SO!

Geez, people, if you want to cut down a person, LISTEN TO WHAT THEY ARE SAYING, RATHER THAN THE TEXTURE OF THEIR VOICE!

As the old saying goes, "You can't tell a book by it's cover!"



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03 Jul 2017, 3:31 pm

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And I'm supposed to be effeminate because I'm a lyric tenor? :evil:

I DON'T THINK SO!

Geez, people, if you want to cut down a person, LISTEN TO WHAT THEY ARE SAYING, RATHER THAN THE TEXTURE OF THEIR VOICE!

As the old saying goes, "You can't tell a book by it's cover!"

Some people will assume so, or even expect it to be okay to voice shame you, just like fat shaming used to be more commonly accepted. I'd suggest experimenting with changing your pitch and looking for changes.


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