Why do you think a relationship will make you happy?

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25 Sep 2017, 2:21 am

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Im sure this has already been said in the last 25 pages (which I haven't read unfortunately) but the sense of completion, fulfillment and sufficiency that describes "happiness" cannot be found in a relationship but must be obtained before. Once you have found a degree of inner certainty and peace then you can establish healthy relationships which validate who you are at your core.


Not necessarily, I knew plenty of broken people (usually are women, in real life men never admit their sad feelings regarding their single status) who were sad about their single status for long, and then suddenly they become happy after finding someone.



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25 Sep 2017, 4:57 pm

I want a relationship because i want someone to make me feel safe. Also i don't want to be left alone when i get old and sick since there's not much social services in my country..



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01 Nov 2017, 10:26 pm

The 1st time in my life that I was really happy & felt accepted & truly loved was when I was in my 1st realtionship. I haven't really felt those things after till I was in my 2nd relationship, & then not till my current one.


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02 Nov 2017, 12:06 am

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One of my biggest fears in life is that no girl will ever truly love me.

Of course getting a girlfriend won't change anything.

If Im worried no woman will ever love me or want to be with me then a woman who falls in love with me and wants to be with me won't change this.


Still relevant! :)



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02 Nov 2017, 12:56 am

I'm gonna tell you what an old post from a website told me. Even though you look bad, what makes you look worse is if you give off this vibe of I'll always be a virgin and no one will ever love me. Dude really? No one will ever love you? We live in the 21st century, there will always be someone who loves you. There are plenty of fish in the sea, so you have to keep fishing. And hey, fishing isn't as easy as it seems, and that's one part of the analogy most people forgot. It won't be easy, but you do can get a fish in the end. You get zero fish when you stare at the water yelling at the fish to fly into your boat.



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02 Nov 2017, 1:42 am

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I'm gonna tell you what an old post from a website told me. Even though you look bad, what makes you look worse is if you give off this vibe of I'll always be a virgin and no one will ever love me. Dude really? No one will ever love you? We live in the 21st century, there will always be someone who loves you. There are plenty of fish in the sea, so you have to keep fishing. And hey, fishing isn't as easy as it seems, and that's one part of the analogy most people forgot. It won't be easy, but you do can get a fish in the end. You get zero fish when you stare at the water yelling at the fish to fly into your boat.

Since you put it that way, it’s nothing an antique telephone or a stick of dynamite couldn’t fix.



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02 Nov 2017, 1:57 am

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I'm gonna tell you what an old post from a website told me. Even though you look bad, what makes you look worse is if you give off this vibe of I'll always be a virgin and no one will ever love me. Dude really? No one will ever love you? We live in the 21st century, there will always be someone who loves you. There are plenty of fish in the sea, so you have to keep fishing. And hey, fishing isn't as easy as it seems, and that's one part of the analogy most people forgot. It won't be easy, but you do can get a fish in the end. You get zero fish when you stare at the water yelling at the fish to fly into your boat.


Some people don't seem to make any effort and they've got fish jumping right into their boat.

I'm honestly sick of being judged. I'd rather be known as happily single even if it's a lie than have people giving me stupid 'advice' like I'm too independent or some other criticism of my character.

That work you're referring to is to much like being constantly torn apart by other people who can't see anything to love in me and I don't want to play anymore.

I don't think any of my single female friends will find anyone either. So we'll just have our own little friendships and forget about what everyone else is doing.

We don't want to be single, but we're never good enough so what's the point? We don't even talk about guys we like anymore. It's just not a topic of conversation. That part of our lives is over and we will look for contentment instead of chasing the wind. I'm the last to get in board with the idea. They've been telling me for a few years just to let it go and enjoy my life.

I'll join the other sexually invisible women.



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02 Nov 2017, 2:40 am

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I'm gonna tell you what an old post from a website told me. Even though you look bad, what makes you look worse is if you give off this vibe of I'll always be a virgin and no one will ever love me. Dude really? No one will ever love you? We live in the 21st century, there will always be someone who loves you. There are plenty of fish in the sea, so you have to keep fishing. And hey, fishing isn't as easy as it seems, and that's one part of the analogy most people forgot. It won't be easy, but you do can get a fish in the end. You get zero fish when you stare at the water yelling at the fish to fly into your boat.


Some people don't seem to make any effort and they've got fish jumping right into their boat.

I'm honestly sick of being judged. I'd rather be known as happily single even if it's a lie than have people giving me stupid 'advice' like I'm too independent or some other criticism of my character.

That work you're referring to is to much like being constantly torn apart by other people who can't see anything to love in me and I don't want to play anymore.

I don't think any of my single female friends will find anyone either. So we'll just have our own little friendships and forget about what everyone else is doing.

We don't want to be single, but we're never good enough so what's the point? We don't even talk about guys we like anymore. It's just not a topic of conversation. That part of our lives is over and we will look for contentment instead of chasing the wind. I'm the last to get in board with the idea. They've been telling me for a few years just to let it go and enjoy my life.

I'll join the other sexually invisible women.


And people still say it's easy for women to get a partner? Haven't they noticed all the unhappily single women? Maybe you're as invisible as your post suggests.


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02 Nov 2017, 3:17 am

ZachGoodwin wrote:
I'm gonna tell you what an old post from a website told me. Even though you look bad, what makes you look worse is if you give off this vibe of I'll always be a virgin and no one will ever love me. Dude really? No one will ever love you? We live in the 21st century, there will always be someone who loves you. There are plenty of fish in the sea, so you have to keep fishing. And hey, fishing isn't as easy as it seems, and that's one part of the analogy most people forgot. It won't be easy, but you do can get a fish in the end. You get zero fish when you stare at the water yelling at the fish to fly into your boat.

No one will love me. I was looking through my pictures and I’m super ugly.

That is false comparison, a fishmman who goes fishing every day for 50 years , casting with different baits for hours in a fully stocked pond but never caught a single fish in that 50 years, is a better comparison to most our situations.

Most everyone catches fish when they go, never been fishing where we didn’t catch a few or atleast one.
Fly fishing take more skill but still I caught fish lol. Liked fly fishing more by the way more doing stuff. Anyways there may be plenty fish in the sea but don’t mesn youll catch any. We ugly aspies are like fishing without a hook.



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02 Nov 2017, 3:21 am

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ZachGoodwin wrote:
I'm gonna tell you what an old post from a website told me. Even though you look bad, what makes you look worse is if you give off this vibe of I'll always be a virgin and no one will ever love me. Dude really? No one will ever love you? We live in the 21st century, there will always be someone who loves you. There are plenty of fish in the sea, so you have to keep fishing. And hey, fishing isn't as easy as it seems, and that's one part of the analogy most people forgot. It won't be easy, but you do can get a fish in the end. You get zero fish when you stare at the water yelling at the fish to fly into your boat.


Some people don't seem to make any effort and they've got fish jumping right into their boat.

I'm honestly sick of being judged. I'd rather be known as happily single even if it's a lie than have people giving me stupid 'advice' like I'm too independent or some other criticism of my character.

That work you're referring to is to much like being constantly torn apart by other people who can't see anything to love in me and I don't want to play anymore.

I don't think any of my single female friends will find anyone either. So we'll just have our own little friendships and forget about what everyone else is doing.

We don't want to be single, but we're never good enough so what's the point? We don't even talk about guys we like anymore. It's just not a topic of conversation. That part of our lives is over and we will look for contentment instead of chasing the wind. I'm the last to get in board with the idea. They've been telling me for a few years just to let it go and enjoy my life.

I'll join the other sexually invisible women.

There’s a certain fish that during a time of year will jump right into your boat.
But I get what you mean, just random fact fame to mind, weird aspie and all that.

I’m sure there’s lots of guys yiur friends deem not good enough, I bet they’d swipe left on a lot of guys with various reasons. You’re attractive, so I’d imagine they are too.id date them but they’d likely reject me.



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02 Nov 2017, 7:08 am

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hurtloam wrote:
ZachGoodwin wrote:
I'm gonna tell you what an old post from a website told me. Even though you look bad, what makes you look worse is if you give off this vibe of I'll always be a virgin and no one will ever love me. Dude really? No one will ever love you? We live in the 21st century, there will always be someone who loves you. There are plenty of fish in the sea, so you have to keep fishing. And hey, fishing isn't as easy as it seems, and that's one part of the analogy most people forgot. It won't be easy, but you do can get a fish in the end. You get zero fish when you stare at the water yelling at the fish to fly into your boat.


Some people don't seem to make any effort and they've got fish jumping right into their boat.

I'm honestly sick of being judged. I'd rather be known as happily single even if it's a lie than have people giving me stupid 'advice' like I'm too independent or some other criticism of my character.

That work you're referring to is to much like being constantly torn apart by other people who can't see anything to love in me and I don't want to play anymore.

I don't think any of my single female friends will find anyone either. So we'll just have our own little friendships and forget about what everyone else is doing.

We don't want to be single, but we're never good enough so what's the point? We don't even talk about guys we like anymore. It's just not a topic of conversation. That part of our lives is over and we will look for contentment instead of chasing the wind. I'm the last to get in board with the idea. They've been telling me for a few years just to let it go and enjoy my life.

I'll join the other sexually invisible women.


And people still say it's easy for women to get a partner? Haven't they noticed all the unhappily single women? Maybe you're as invisible as your post suggests.


Where are the unhappily single women?

They're not just invisible, they must be choosing to hide and are master ninjas.

Hurtloam is the only single woman on Wrongplant who actually complains she doesn't like it, Slw1990 use to say shes unhappy being single but got herself a boyfriend.

Two women, compared to what, the hundreds of men who have passed through here with dating woes?

Or how all over the internet its women telling other women a relationship won't make you happy, and all the other women agreeing.

Many women here on Wrongplanet are even agreeing men tend to need women more.

Chronos, Campin_Cat, Hale_bopp, wanderlust and some others have said something like that.

Plus there's all the girls I've met in real life who don't want or need to have anything to do with men.

Where are you, young master ninja women who hate being single? :lol:



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02 Nov 2017, 7:15 am

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Where are you, young master ninja women who hate being single? :lol:


Usually they're in relationships, lol.



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02 Nov 2017, 8:13 am

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Where are the unhappily single women?

They're not just invisible, they must be choosing to hide and are master ninjas.

In real life I hardly ever hear anyone, no matter what gender, say they can't find a partner but need someone to be happy. Seems not to be socially acceptable to admit this to strangers, acquaintances or non-close friends.

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Hurtloam is the only single woman on Wrongplant who actually complains she doesn't like it, Slw1990 use to say shes unhappy being single but got herself a boyfriend.

Two women, compared to what, the hundreds of men who have passed through here with dating woes?

It's not often either, but sometimes women who don't post in L&D complained about being unhappily single in the Haven.
If I wanted to complain about being unhappily single, I'd probably not do so on WP (I've never had a boyfriend and, no, I could not easily change that) What would happen if I did complain here? There are a few men on here who believe the only possible reason why a woman wouldn't have dozens of men wanting to be her boyfriend, is because she's morbidly obese. I'm not in the mood to explain to anyone that, no, 56kg at 1.69m is not morbidly obese and that, consequently, there must be other possible reasons. Alternatively, I must be some stuck-up b***h with unreasonable expectations. <- Just as an example. There are several other possible outcomes but chances are discussing it here wouldn't be particularly useful for me.

Not saying that my situation is the same as that of the men who are close to or in their 30s and never had a girlfriend. It certainly is not. I'm also not as depressed/sad as some here seem to be, but that does not mean I prefer being single.

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Or how all over the internet its women telling other women a relationship won't make you happy, and all the other women agreeing.

Don't a lot of men do that too on the internet? Isn't there a lot of men who only want one night stands and encourage other men to do the same?

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Many women here on Wrongplanet are even agreeing men tend to need women more.

Chronos, Campin_Cat, Hale_bopp, wanderlust and some others have said something like that.

On WP it'd certainly seem like this is the case. Maybe it actually is.



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02 Nov 2017, 8:57 am

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In real life I hardly ever hear anyone, no matter what gender, say they can't find a partner but need someone to be happy. Seems not to be socially acceptable to admit this to strangers, acquaintances or non-close friends.

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Hurtloam is the only single woman on Wrongplant who actually complains she doesn't like it, Slw1990 use to say shes unhappy being single but got herself a boyfriend.

Two women, compared to what, the hundreds of men who have passed through here with dating woes?

It's not often either, but sometimes women who don't post in L&D complained about being unhappily single in the Haven.
If I wanted to complain about being unhappily single, I'd probably not do so on WP (I've never had a boyfriend and, no, I could not easily change that) What would happen if I did complain here? There are a few men on here who believe the only possible reason why a woman wouldn't have dozens of men wanting to be her boyfriend, is because she's morbidly obese. I'm not in the mood to explain to anyone that, no, 56kg at 1.69m is not morbidly obese and that, consequently, there must be other possible reasons. Alternatively, I must be some stuck-up b***h with unreasonable expectations. <- Just as an example. There are several other possible outcomes but chances are discussing it here wouldn't be particularly useful for me.


Totally this. I don't hear people talking about this in real life. No one wants to be the lonely weirdo. It's more dignified to say you've chosen to be single rather than 'I've been constantly rejwcted' single.

Also a good point on why women don't post in L & D.



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02 Nov 2017, 9:00 am

1. Agreed, it isn't socially acceptable.

That's the bad thing.

If everyone pretends to be happy single less people probably pair up.

2. you're right.. Women who do complain of being single probly aren't as welcome as they should be.

But it just seems to be rare for a woman too in the first place, real life or online.

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Yes men do.too.

Women.on the internet say a relationship won't make younhappy. Men say eomen are only good for sexual gratification and not worth the sacrifice it takes to date or marry.

Like Sly said I think most people lie about being satisfied single, but a minority are.

A lot of.these pickup artist men who say women are "only" good for sex are in their mid to late 20s and all end up married with kids sooner or later.

Most who claim to be happy single are 18-28 and we all know of course young people tend to be more content being single. Poor niave young people.

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Maybe it actually is? Indeed.

A lot of people are unhappy being single but are at least able.to distract their mind with their career and other aspects of adult life.

When you have mental.illness all aspects of life are harder.

So that NT who works 10hra a day might be distracted by his job but since I don't have a job and couldn't possibly work 10hrs a day what am Igoing to.do in those 10hrs? Yeah my hobbies but when I get.bored with that I think about how lonely I am.

Or how a lot of the men here don't have friends at all so a girlfriend would give them a social life because they're desperately lonely and depressed in general.



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02 Nov 2017, 10:58 am

I disagree. It seems to me older people are happier single. In my lifetime (bear in mind I'm 36) I have seen young people excited and enthusiastic about relationships (usually kind of shirt term at that age) but older people being put off relationships due to actually having experienced a few long term ones.

They've been through all the ups and downs of a relationship and decided they would rather be alone, even the ones who stay with their partner for whatever personal reasons, they long to be alone.

Or there are those who hoped they would meet someone and never did and have got used to single life. They're happier than the ones in bad relationships I've noticed.