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06 Jul 2017, 6:06 pm

From 4chan thinking that globalism is a threat to our social circles and ability to compete with NTs to conspiracy theories about how we are the elite ruling class in the "New World Order", I've heard a wide diversity of opinions on this issue and I was wondering what actually autistic people thought of the matter. I know that a lot of people on 4chan claim to be diagnosed aspies, yet I'm looking around and I see a bunch of NTs trying to scapegoat people and compete with each other over their emotionally fueled postmodernism and I honestly can't see globalism mixing well with that, so I personally feel empowered by globalism. I'm starting to wonder if it depends on how our "disability" manifests itself. What are the thoughts of other autistics on here?



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09 Jul 2017, 3:43 pm

It's stupid in general. Why have the open borders policy? It's a threat to democracy in countries who have it. The people behind it always lie to their peers. Globalism to me feels like were turning into Communists because of the mainstream media giving us the fake news and censoring our opinions. I know it sounds dark but it's true. I don't want the US and maybe other countries get destroyed by this policy. I know a few people from the left on Youtube who are not supporting the left that's corrupted. However, they think otherwise about President Trump.



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09 Jul 2017, 6:52 pm

As for my position on globalism, it's best if we control our own nations and borders. Conservatives and libertarians have reasons to be angry. I don't subscribe fully to all conservative views on things, but I can understand why they fear they are being attacked.

And what is the original post about saying there is an alleged connection between ASD and globalization? It only makes as much sense as saying there is a general connection between ASD and violence or crime. And the guys on 4chan, I never really go to that site (maybe once within the last year) but they are probably talking "tongue-in-cheek" with exaggerating things, and are usually just useful as trolls to those with autism (or any other group in this matter).



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09 Jul 2017, 7:10 pm

Maybe I had a different experience. I felt alienated from many white people, and when I did have friends they tended to also feel alienated from most white people for some reason. I like multiculturalism. I learn a lot from the cultural differences from the contrasts, and no one particularly notices if a person from another culture misses a few social signals.

I feel curious to read the arguments, just not curious enough to sift through five tons of flax to find them. I can imagine that people on the spectrum who care a lot more than I do about routine and predictability might have a hard time accepting cultural differences.


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10 Jul 2017, 12:24 pm

Globalization is quite different from globalism. Globalization is economic and globalism is cultural. I see globalism as more socialist than communist. Just look at the shape we are in right now. Group think is fueling political polarization. What we're seeing now is what you get with democracy in the US. American Idiocracy is the mainstream culture. I honestly prefer some sanity with collaborative morality and some right to individuality. When you have closed borders, social ostracization could much more easily become a matter of life and death. Globalism can be tough and less predictable, but it gives the individual more personal power over their own locus of control. The way I see it, there is a lot more room for individuals to reject mainstream values and ideas in favor of their own personal lifestyle preferences. I cannot fathom how someone labeled as a social reject by society at large could protest globalism, yet I see it all the time.



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10 Jul 2017, 1:02 pm

I like viewing Anonymous's videos, I think they are educational. They teach about the NWO and who really controls our media and our politicians. What I like most about them is that they want you to think for yourself, and there is no leader. I would help them out too if I had any clue about programming and hacking.

I want to view the film (America: Freedom to Fascism) by the man who produced Trading Places too.


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14 Jul 2017, 2:05 am

There are good parts of globalism and bad parts of globalism. Just as long as we prevent the world from coming under a dictator who takes away our right to defend ourselves, we aren't screwed yet. I actually, though, have very liberal views on most things.



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15 Jul 2017, 11:22 am

CharityGoodyGrace wrote:
There are good parts of globalism and bad parts of globalism. Just as long as we prevent the world from coming under a dictator who takes away our right to defend ourselves, we aren't screwed yet. I actually, though, have very liberal views on most things.
This is my take on it, as well. What you mention is pretty much the difference between a one world government and a cosmopolitan democracy. Upon doing some research and serious introspection, I think I've come to a realization of why our community is so heatedly split on this matter, despite it seeming like common sense. It would seem our challenges with socialization would usually manifest in one of two ways.

One is people who generally want to be left alone, but are desperate to form [intimate/romantic] relationships with others and these are the ones that media stereotypes are based upon. Meanwhile, my case is the exact opposite in that I don't really care about forming romantic relationships, but tend to ruminate when I'm disconnected from society or fear ostracization. From the perspective of a democratic globalist, that is pretty much the difference between right and wrong. However, with the way Trump is acting now, I'm starting to suspect that the 2016 election was just a show and that we were set up from the very beginning. Fortunately, the very nature of globalism seems to more-or-less "declaw" those who make a habit out of scapegoating.

In conclusion, I really don't think our community is all that different from the NT community in that we both have "good" and "bad" people. I also think that society at large is starting to wake up and realize that being alienated by different cultures really isn't all that abnormal. Perhaps the key is accepting that people are different while tolerating those differences.



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15 Jul 2017, 9:28 pm

We are all different and we are all the same.

I'm a pro-gun liberal (but I believe that people should undergo vetting before being allowed to own them). I'm also anti-late-term-abortion unless it's to save the mother's life or prevent her from getting life-or ability-threateningly sick. I believe in Jesus but I believe there's a lot more about God and all that than what the Bible tells us, or it tells us cryptically.

Other than that, I'm a total liberal snowflake; LOL. I'm for the LGBT people, for different races mixing, against hitting your wife and kids (or your husband, for that matter), for women being tomboys when they want to, for men wearing a damn skirt if they want to and still calling themselves men. My parents think all these things are globalist conspiracies to take over the world. I think they're getting sick from all the InfoWars and Zerohedge and such. I love Harry Potter; my mom thinks it's satanist and globalist.



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16 Jul 2017, 8:58 pm

I actually consider myself a Spiritual Satanist and I hold similar beliefs. I do believe that there is a glimmer of truth to the whole "Satanic conspiracy" nonsense. However I also believe that most of the conspiracies are attempts to mislead in and of themselves. The biggest weakness of Satanism is that it is indifferent, for better or for worse. It essentially tells people they can live their lives how they want without restrictions. Scientology, with it's "positive thinking" and it's frothing hatred for "negative people" is like a lot more closed minded version of Satanism and I believe it to actually be a "Christian" scam. Christianity, on the other hand, has some great wisdom in noting the multitude of reasons why we are all imperfect, though I think a lot of it's followers are too self-critical in that they see repentance to mean being ashamed of yourself instead of simply feeling guilty about what is perceived as wrong. Add it all up and what you get is a pseudoargument between two factions of narcissists that ultimately leads to their own self-destruction over their own perceived sense of social superiority. So, in a sense, a lot of what we get on a daily basis... infected down to any last hobby we may potentially practice... really is a globalist conspiracy. I'm not saying it is morally defensible to perpetuate an artificial Armageddon, but considering they are going after the narcissists, who is in any position to try and stop it, let alone be able to, especially at this point. Our community would particularly benefit on an evolutionary scale from the ultimate and inevitable success of such a scam, as well.

The really creepy part about this is that, upon studying the three religions in addition to human psychology and human history from a humanities perspective, there is actually a ton of evidence to support this hypothesis. Some of these things include how the original gods, likely referring to the Greek gods, were likely banished as "demons". There are many phenomena of the Trojan War and other aspects of Greek culture which remain as unexplainable events that are evidenced to have actually taken place. The manipulation of Historical Jesus to his crucifixion by the Roman Empire that eventually led to it's downfall is another suspect thing. Also, while the Old Testament is obviously far from literal, another thing I look at is Akhenaten's cruel abuses of power in Ancient Egypt that greatly disturbed the social order and how a lot of "Christians" worship him as having potentially been Moses with evidence to support the claim. Again, I see Christianity, at least how it is commonly practiced, as more of a self-fulfilling prophecy than a healthy religious belief system. I also consider the donation of 10% of a person's income to the church of scientology to be a metaphor for the selling of one's soul for fame, considering that Spiritual Satanism makes note of how the rich destroy the lives of the masses by retaining the wisdom of Satan for themselves when Spiritual Satanism merely preaches that we are all gods in control of our own lives without restriction.

I hope I didn't derail this thread too far by sharing my insights on this matter. It still retains loose relevance to the concept of globalism.



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16 Jul 2017, 9:25 pm

I'd like to see a separate thread to discuss the wisdom of Satan in depth. As regards freedom, I think about Kim Kardashian. I know little about her, except that she's famous for being rich or something? She's not a free the nipple feminist, but she likes to show them.

There are certainly better examples.

That kind of globalist doesn't want free movement of goods and services, he wants to control that movement. Too good for the hoi polloi, but not good enough for me!


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16 Jul 2017, 10:15 pm

Yes, but my argument was that the propaganda of the elite fails on its own merits. Diversity isn't defined by some ultimate all-encompassing identity (such as a rich liberal abusing a Mexican immigrant whilst pretending to champion them), but, rather, about the collective exercising collaborative morality due to the fact that we are all imperfect, which makes a display of the power of the people. Narcissism has it's basis in the greed of the neoliberal elite, which is what truly oppresses the masses. To not put some realistic limitations on the greed of the neoliberal elite is not only destructive to the planet and the physical and mental health of the masses, but it also operates in a socially competitive environment which either indoctrinates us to narcissism to make us one of the elite to be manipulated by the government or expels us from the workforce and the gene pool by extension. It forces us to choose between being labeled "the enemy" (which manipulates not only us, but the masses as well) or to be made easy prey. Either way, our destruction as a group would only serve to enable Trump's ideal of a racist one world government which not only, again, is extremely destructive to the environment, but subject's society at large to an elite class of White supremacists. I cannot get behind the idea that money (other people's money) is more important than our freedom and even our very lives.



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16 Jul 2017, 11:42 pm

In order to celebrate diversity, we must also celebrate sameness... we are all the same despite being all different, and about difference and sameness: in order for one to be accepted the other must be.

As for Satanists, some people are really sick, raping kids, "spirit cooking", refusing to talk to Jesus Christ during seances...



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17 Jul 2017, 1:02 am

That is true, which is part of why I feel it is important for the "Jesus conspiracy" I'm talking about to have happened. I see it as a means to an end. When you encourage narcissism... such as the "positive thinking" of Scientology or Christianity interpreted to mean shame as opposed to integrity... both of those things encourage divisiveness. Radical leftism is usually marked by a strong desire to fit in and the basis for discrimination of "the other". I know my approach to the matter is complicated, convoluted, and dark, but it is true and I feel like I'm essentially saying the same thing other people are trying to tell me. I can celebrate diversity and still manage my own social circles without actively hating people who I don't necessarily get along with. Relationships without boundaries are often filled with arguments and can become violent. This is what I mean when I say we aren't that different from NTs.

Just as you need to celebrate sameness to celebrate diversity, you need to celebrate diversity to celebrate sameness. One ultimate uniform identity is not diversity. It is racism, tyranny, and a mark of privilege. If one was truly tolerant, they would be tolerant to ALL forms of diversity. Not just the forms of diversity they agree with or that benefit them personally. A person can manage their social circles to forms of diversity they agree with, and still not hate or dehumanize those they disagree with. That is not diversity. True tolerance requires an understanding of why from a detached and logical perspective. Detachment may not always be easy for us, but logical is. This idea that we are so incredibly different from NTs is based on a million calculated lies.