Page 1 of 1 [ 16 posts ] 

BTDT
Veteran
Veteran

User avatar

Joined: 26 Jul 2010
Age: 60
Gender: Female
Posts: 7,116

16 Aug 2017, 4:53 pm

He seems to have a talent for pitting people against one another--could he be the Great Divider?

This could mean some amazing innovations in weapons technology in the very near future.

Just look at the development of the atomic bomb. It was basically a reaction to Hitler and the conflict he created.
We might never have bothered had we not gotten into the war. And then the H Bomb....

Helping keep our country strong may economically rewarding for a few talented Aspies willing to help in developing the next generation of bigger and better defenses.



kraftiekortie
Veteran
Veteran

Joined: 4 Feb 2014
Gender: Male
Posts: 87,510
Location: Queens, NYC

16 Aug 2017, 5:29 pm

Trump's the Great Idiot......



funeralxempire
Veteran
Veteran

User avatar

Joined: 27 Oct 2014
Age: 39
Gender: Non-binary
Posts: 25,428
Location: Right over your left shoulder

16 Aug 2017, 5:30 pm

kraftiekortie wrote:
Trump's the Great Idiot......


The Great Divisive Idiot? The Great Idiotic Divider? Image


_________________
Watching liberals try to solve societal problems without a systemic critique/class consciousness is like watching someone in the dark try to flip on the light switch, but they keep turning on the garbage disposal instead.
戦争ではなく戦争と戦う


ASPartOfMe
Veteran
Veteran

User avatar

Joined: 25 Aug 2013
Age: 66
Gender: Male
Posts: 34,390
Location: Long Island, New York

16 Aug 2017, 5:42 pm

Trump is both a consequence of Americans becoming more divided for many years now and an expeditor of the process.


_________________
Professionally Identified and joined WP August 26, 2013
DSM 5: Autism Spectrum Disorder, DSM IV: Aspergers Moderate Severity

It is Autism Acceptance Month

“My autism is not a superpower. It also isn’t some kind of god-forsaken, endless fountain of suffering inflicted on my family. It’s just part of who I am as a person”. - Sara Luterman


KagamineLen
Veteran
Veteran

User avatar

Joined: 7 Jun 2012
Age: 45
Gender: Male
Posts: 1,633

16 Aug 2017, 5:47 pm

Trump sprays peaceful protesters with tear gas while giving a thumbs up to Nazis.

He is a physical embodiment of everything that is wrong with my country.

Hillary would have been just as bad, though.



kraftiekortie
Veteran
Veteran

Joined: 4 Feb 2014
Gender: Male
Posts: 87,510
Location: Queens, NYC

16 Aug 2017, 6:11 pm

At least Hilary would have know what she was doing.

Trump hasn't any idea, really.....



AnonymousAnonymous
Veteran
Veteran

Joined: 23 Nov 2006
Age: 34
Gender: Male
Posts: 70,088
Location: Portland, Oregon

16 Aug 2017, 6:44 pm

Trump enjoys making the people of the US look like jokes {regardless if they voted for him or not} because he himself is a joke.


_________________
Silly NTs, I have Aspergers, and having Aspergers is gr-r-reat!


sly279
Veteran
Veteran

User avatar

Joined: 11 Dec 2013
Age: 36
Gender: Male
Posts: 16,181
Location: US

16 Aug 2017, 7:52 pm

KagamineLen wrote:
Trump sprays peaceful protesters with tear gas while giving a thumbs up to Nazis.

He is a physical embodiment of everything that is wrong with my country.

Hillary would have been just as bad, though.

When did trump do that?
Local police forces answer to their mayors only. So unless trump delclared martial law , nationalized the national guard then deployed them then he didn't do anything.

Antifia is super violent. They are not peaceful protests. If you don't get a permit then attack people then you should get gassed and arrested. Don't see me out rioting or attacking people. I don't want to get gassed and arrested. Not to mention I obey the law. I also don't condone violence over political beliefs. Obama turned a blind eye to left violent groups. I'm glad trump is dondeming both sides.

Obama divided this nation. I believe it was his goal. If the left would stop throwning a tantrum, sit down and have talks and actually try to work with trump then they wouldn't lose. More elections. How many elections do democrats have to lose before they figure it out, acting like children doesn't get people to like you. The republicans control congress, the White House, probably soon the court, they have 32 states legistures and 33 governors. But by all regards let's give the republicans more control in 2018. Let's give them a super majority in congress. If they get 60 seats he democrats senators might as well just stay home, cause their ram anything they want without needing any democrats.

As a middle ground person. I don't want the GOP with a super majority, but watching the left throw a giant tantrum and accuse trump left and right so that even people who didn't vote trump are like " wow they just nick pick him over everything" or "non,after what their find something wrong with anything trump does" who do you think they going vote for in 2018? The left seriously needs to get their act together for everyone's sake.

You don't win by smearing your rivial but by being the better person. Instead of smearing trump and making stuff up, how about the left shows they can learn and be the better person. The media should just ignore trump. Giving him attention only turns more people to support him like in the election. People trust the media less then congress. To the general public he media is a bully and trump is the victim.



KagamineLen
Veteran
Veteran

User avatar

Joined: 7 Jun 2012
Age: 45
Gender: Male
Posts: 1,633

16 Aug 2017, 8:05 pm

sly279 wrote:
KagamineLen wrote:
Trump sprays peaceful protesters with tear gas while giving a thumbs up to Nazis.

He is a physical embodiment of everything that is wrong with my country.

Hillary would have been just as bad, though.

When did trump do that?
Local police forces answer to their mayors only. So unless trump delclared martial law , nationalized the national guard then deployed them then he didn't do anything.

Antifia is super violent. They are not peaceful protests. If you don't get a permit then attack people then you should get gassed and arrested. Don't see me out rioting or attacking people. I don't want to get gassed and arrested. Not to mention I obey the law. I also don't condone violence over political beliefs. Obama turned a blind eye to left violent groups. I'm glad trump is dondeming both sides.

Obama divided this nation. I believe it was his goal. If the left would stop throwning a tantrum, sit down and have talks and actually try to work with trump then they wouldn't lose. More elections. How many elections do democrats have to lose before they figure it out, acting like children doesn't get people to like you. The republicans control congress, the White House, probably soon the court, they have 32 states legistures and 33 governors. But by all regards let's give the republicans more control in 2018. Let's give them a super majority in congress. If they get 60 seats he democrats senators might as well just stay home, cause their ram anything they want without needing any democrats.

As a middle ground person. I don't want the GOP with a super majority, but watching the left throw a giant tantrum and accuse trump left and right so that even people who didn't vote trump are like " wow they just nick pick him over everything" or "non,after what their find something wrong with anything trump does" who do you think they going vote for in 2018? The left seriously needs to get their act together for everyone's sake.

You don't win by smearing your rivial but by being the better person. Instead of smearing trump and making stuff up, how about the left shows they can learn and be the better person. The media should just ignore trump. Giving him attention only turns more people to support him like in the election. People trust the media less then congress. To the general public he media is a bully and trump is the victim.


Uhm, I hate to break it to you, but National Socialism is about as anti-American as it gets. We had a war about this already. Nazis have no place on American soil. Even most Republicans recognize this. Trump is trying to legitimize Nazi ideology in this country by attacking people who oppose it. That is far more treasonous than anything Obama ever conjured up. Trump's support of National Socialism is no longer a partisan issue. This is no longer about left vs right. This is about America versus Nazis.



Aspiegaming
Veteran
Veteran

User avatar

Joined: 11 Sep 2012
Age: 32
Gender: Male
Posts: 3,074
Location: Hagerstown, MD

16 Aug 2017, 10:00 pm

We should have ended political parties a long time ago. It's done nothing but damage relations between good citizens all because they have different political beliefs. When can two sides agree on for the benefit of our country and its population these days? Nothing. And now rallies and violence. I saw what happened in Charlottesville and I'm glad I don't live there and I hope this level of hate can be contained. I hope there never comes a day when I would be forced to install extra locks on my doors.


_________________
I am sick, and in so being I am the healthy one.

If my darkness or eccentricness offends you, I don't really care.

I will not apologize for being me.


Last edited by Aspiegaming on 16 Aug 2017, 10:22 pm, edited 1 time in total.

KagamineLen
Veteran
Veteran

User avatar

Joined: 7 Jun 2012
Age: 45
Gender: Male
Posts: 1,633

16 Aug 2017, 10:04 pm

Aspiegaming wrote:
We should have ended political parties a long time ago. It's done nothing but damage relations between good citizens all because they have different political beliefs. We can two sides agree on for the benefit of our country and its population these days? Nothing. And now rallies and violence. I saw what happened in Charlottesville and I'm glad I don't live there and I hope this level of hate can be contained. I hope there never comes a day when I would be forced to install extra locks on my doors.


The fact that there are some people who are unwilling to unite against genocide and turn it into a partisan issue instead convinces me that the two party us vs them system is BS.



sly279
Veteran
Veteran

User avatar

Joined: 11 Dec 2013
Age: 36
Gender: Male
Posts: 16,181
Location: US

16 Aug 2017, 10:58 pm

KagamineLen wrote:
sly279 wrote:
KagamineLen wrote:
Trump sprays peaceful protesters with tear gas while giving a thumbs up to Nazis.

He is a physical embodiment of everything that is wrong with my country.

Hillary would have been just as bad, though.

When did trump do that?
Local police forces answer to their mayors only. So unless trump delclared martial law , nationalized the national guard then deployed them then he didn't do anything.

Antifia is super violent. They are not peaceful protests. If you don't get a permit then attack people then you should get gassed and arrested. Don't see me out rioting or attacking people. I don't want to get gassed and arrested. Not to mention I obey the law. I also don't condone violence over political beliefs. Obama turned a blind eye to left violent groups. I'm glad trump is dondeming both sides.

Obama divided this nation. I believe it was his goal. If the left would stop throwning a tantrum, sit down and have talks and actually try to work with trump then they wouldn't lose. More elections. How many elections do democrats have to lose before they figure it out, acting like children doesn't get people to like you. The republicans control congress, the White House, probably soon the court, they have 32 states legistures and 33 governors. But by all regards let's give the republicans more control in 2018. Let's give them a super majority in congress. If they get 60 seats he democrats senators might as well just stay home, cause their ram anything they want without needing any democrats.

As a middle ground person. I don't want the GOP with a super majority, but watching the left throw a giant tantrum and accuse trump left and right so that even people who didn't vote trump are like " wow they just nick pick him over everything" or "non,after what their find something wrong with anything trump does" who do you think they going vote for in 2018? The left seriously needs to get their act together for everyone's sake.

You don't win by smearing your rivial but by being the better person. Instead of smearing trump and making stuff up, how about the left shows they can learn and be the better person. The media should just ignore trump. Giving him attention only turns more people to support him like in the election. People trust the media less then congress. To the general public he media is a bully and trump is the victim.


Uhm, I hate to break it to you, but National Socialism is about as anti-American as it gets. We had a war about this already. Nazis have no place on American soil. Even most Republicans recognize this. Trump is trying to legitimize Nazi ideology in this country by attacking people who oppose it. That is far more treasonous than anything Obama ever conjured up. Trump's support of National Socialism is no longer a partisan issue. This is no longer about left vs right. This is about America versus Nazis.

OMG freaking god. He condemned both sides . How in the freak do you people get oh he said both sides are bad therefore he supports the new nazis. Yet you all act like he's flying the nazi flag from the White House as he gives a speech to a army of ss troops. :roll: meanwhile many on the left support Kim jun ung who's an actual dictator responsible for killing thousands if not millions likely. Antifi is a horrible group who is basically home grown terrorist. Probably only a matter of time before they start doing bombings to push their message. Neo nazis wave flags and say hateful things, antifia attack people through out the nation. I'll stand by anyone's right to rally and protest and speak whatever they want. That's exactly what our troops fought and died for, not some censorship of those who we disagree with bulshit. Anyone who thinks it's ok to assault people for differing opinions should be Locked up and the key thrown away.

Wanna truely beat and piss off then do nazis, show up with love, show up with Asians, blacks, gays, disabled, Hispanics, and pretray a message of love and peace. Don't show up with your face hidden behind masks, with weapons waiting to start a fight and assault people. Both groups want a totalitarian government that pushes their views on everyone else. Two heads of the same group.

The above is how people counter protest the west baptis church by the way. It pisses them off real good and spreads the opposite f their agenda.



Last edited by sly279 on 16 Aug 2017, 11:01 pm, edited 1 time in total.

KagamineLen
Veteran
Veteran

User avatar

Joined: 7 Jun 2012
Age: 45
Gender: Male
Posts: 1,633

16 Aug 2017, 11:00 pm

sly279 wrote:
KagamineLen wrote:
sly279 wrote:
KagamineLen wrote:
Trump sprays peaceful protesters with tear gas while giving a thumbs up to Nazis.

He is a physical embodiment of everything that is wrong with my country.

Hillary would have been just as bad, though.

When did trump do that?
Local police forces answer to their mayors only. So unless trump delclared martial law , nationalized the national guard then deployed them then he didn't do anything.

Antifia is super violent. They are not peaceful protests. If you don't get a permit then attack people then you should get gassed and arrested. Don't see me out rioting or attacking people. I don't want to get gassed and arrested. Not to mention I obey the law. I also don't condone violence over political beliefs. Obama turned a blind eye to left violent groups. I'm glad trump is dondeming both sides.

Obama divided this nation. I believe it was his goal. If the left would stop throwning a tantrum, sit down and have talks and actually try to work with trump then they wouldn't lose. More elections. How many elections do democrats have to lose before they figure it out, acting like children doesn't get people to like you. The republicans control congress, the White House, probably soon the court, they have 32 states legistures and 33 governors. But by all regards let's give the republicans more control in 2018. Let's give them a super majority in congress. If they get 60 seats he democrats senators might as well just stay home, cause their ram anything they want without needing any democrats.

As a middle ground person. I don't want the GOP with a super majority, but watching the left throw a giant tantrum and accuse trump left and right so that even people who didn't vote trump are like " wow they just nick pick him over everything" or "non,after what their find something wrong with anything trump does" who do you think they going vote for in 2018? The left seriously needs to get their act together for everyone's sake.

You don't win by smearing your rivial but by being the better person. Instead of smearing trump and making stuff up, how about the left shows they can learn and be the better person. The media should just ignore trump. Giving him attention only turns more people to support him like in the election. People trust the media less then congress. To the general public he media is a bully and trump is the victim.


Uhm, I hate to break it to you, but National Socialism is about as anti-American as it gets. We had a war about this already. Nazis have no place on American soil. Even most Republicans recognize this. Trump is trying to legitimize Nazi ideology in this country by attacking people who oppose it. That is far more treasonous than anything Obama ever conjured up. Trump's support of National Socialism is no longer a partisan issue. This is no longer about left vs right. This is about America versus Nazis.

OMG freaking god. He condemned both sides . How in the freak do you people get oh he said both sides are bad therefore he supports the new nazis. Yet you all act like he's flying the nazi flag from the White House as he gives a speech to a army of ss troops. :roll: meanwhile many on the left support Kim jun ung who's an actual dictator responsible for killing thousands if not millions likely. Antifi is a horrible group who is basically home grown terrorist. Probably only a matter of time before they start doing bombings to push their message. Neo nazis wave flags and say hateful things, antifia attack people through out the nation. I'll stand by anyone's right to rally and protest and speak whatever they want. That's exactly what our troops fought and died for, not some censorship of those who we disagree with bulshit. Anyone who thinks it's ok to assault people for differing opinions should be Locked up and the key thrown away.


So, you admit you are willing to remain complacent when the Nazis stuff you into a gas chamber?



karathraceandherspecialdestiny
Veteran
Veteran

Joined: 22 Jan 2017
Age: 44
Gender: Female
Posts: 1,857

16 Aug 2017, 11:20 pm

sly279 wrote:
KagamineLen wrote:
sly279 wrote:
KagamineLen wrote:
Trump sprays peaceful protesters with tear gas while giving a thumbs up to Nazis.

He is a physical embodiment of everything that is wrong with my country.

Hillary would have been just as bad, though.

When did trump do that?
Local police forces answer to their mayors only. So unless trump delclared martial law , nationalized the national guard then deployed them then he didn't do anything.

Antifia is super violent. They are not peaceful protests. If you don't get a permit then attack people then you should get gassed and arrested. Don't see me out rioting or attacking people. I don't want to get gassed and arrested. Not to mention I obey the law. I also don't condone violence over political beliefs. Obama turned a blind eye to left violent groups. I'm glad trump is dondeming both sides.

Obama divided this nation. I believe it was his goal. If the left would stop throwning a tantrum, sit down and have talks and actually try to work with trump then they wouldn't lose. More elections. How many elections do democrats have to lose before they figure it out, acting like children doesn't get people to like you. The republicans control congress, the White House, probably soon the court, they have 32 states legistures and 33 governors. But by all regards let's give the republicans more control in 2018. Let's give them a super majority in congress. If they get 60 seats he democrats senators might as well just stay home, cause their ram anything they want without needing any democrats.

As a middle ground person. I don't want the GOP with a super majority, but watching the left throw a giant tantrum and accuse trump left and right so that even people who didn't vote trump are like " wow they just nick pick him over everything" or "non,after what their find something wrong with anything trump does" who do you think they going vote for in 2018? The left seriously needs to get their act together for everyone's sake.

You don't win by smearing your rivial but by being the better person. Instead of smearing trump and making stuff up, how about the left shows they can learn and be the better person. The media should just ignore trump. Giving him attention only turns more people to support him like in the election. People trust the media less then congress. To the general public he media is a bully and trump is the victim.


Uhm, I hate to break it to you, but National Socialism is about as anti-American as it gets. We had a war about this already. Nazis have no place on American soil. Even most Republicans recognize this. Trump is trying to legitimize Nazi ideology in this country by attacking people who oppose it. That is far more treasonous than anything Obama ever conjured up. Trump's support of National Socialism is no longer a partisan issue. This is no longer about left vs right. This is about America versus Nazis.

OMG freaking god. He condemned both sides . How in the freak do you people get oh he said both sides are bad therefore he supports the new nazis. Yet you all act like he's flying the nazi flag from the White House as he gives a speech to a army of ss troops. :roll: meanwhile many on the left support Kim jun ung who's an actual dictator responsible for killing thousands if not millions likely. Antifi is a horrible group who is basically home grown terrorist. Probably only a matter of time before they start doing bombings to push their message. Neo nazis wave flags and say hateful things, antifia attack people through out the nation. I'll stand by anyone's right to rally and protest and speak whatever they want. That's exactly what our troops fought and died for, not some censorship of those who we disagree with bulshit. Anyone who thinks it's ok to assault people for differing opinions should be Locked up and the key thrown away.

Wanna truely beat and piss off then do nazis, show up with love, show up with Asians, blacks, gays, disabled, Hispanics, and pretray a message of love and peace. Don't show up with your face hidden behind masks, with weapons waiting to start a fight and assault people. Both groups want a totalitarian government that pushes their views on everyone else. Two heads of the same group.

The above is how people counter protest the west baptis church by the way. It pisses them off real good and spreads the opposite f their agenda.


The problem is that when black people and gay people show up the nazis attack them. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IdlwflV8_m0



karathraceandherspecialdestiny
Veteran
Veteran

Joined: 22 Jan 2017
Age: 44
Gender: Female
Posts: 1,857

16 Aug 2017, 11:34 pm

How can you condemn people who are against nazis? How are people who are against nazis just as bad as nazis? Can you even hear yourself, like do you really think you are making any sense or are you just repeating things you've heard elsewhere and haven't actually thought about yourself? Do you know what a false equivalence is?



envirozentinel
Forum Moderator
Forum Moderator

User avatar

Joined: 16 Sep 2012
Gender: Male
Posts: 17,025
Location: Keshron, Super-Zakhyria

17 Aug 2017, 6:05 am

Sorry, but this thread isn't doing anyone any good. There have been statements made which are based on emotions rather than facts. Healthy debate is fine but some see only two opposing camps and no middle ground.

Locked.


_________________
Why is a trailer behind a car but ahead of a movie?


my blog:
https://sentinel63.wordpress.com/