Antifa - freedom fighters, necessary evil, terrorists?

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15 Aug 2018, 3:22 am

Also, people need to stop conflating the concept of hate speech and incitement.


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15 Aug 2018, 6:09 am

As soon as anyone needs to use violence and censorship to make sure their ideas are heard, they are in the wrong.

Physical violence is wrong. As soon as you instigate it, you are the aggressor.

Antifa is, to my eyes, a group of dumb, shortsighted, uneducated and brainwashed idiots. who will gladly commit violence in the name of "good". Meaning their perceived and imagined "good".

They are being used to push an ideological agenda that has plagued humanity for almost a century now.

The funniest parts of Antifa: they have become the evil they were so desperate to fight. they are destroying themselves(as i predicted) and as soon as you probe them for answers on how to affect change... they clam up.

They dont have any real ideas, they just parrot what has been fed to them, like good little drones...

They are not freedom fighters, terrorists or anything else. They are pawns.



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15 Aug 2018, 5:20 pm

Are people now just lazily labelling anyone protesting against hard right politics as 'antifa' or are they distinguishing them from traditional anarchists and protesters?



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15 Aug 2018, 6:29 pm

Biscuitman wrote:
Are people now just lazily labelling anyone protesting against hard right politics as 'antifa' or are they distinguishing them from traditional anarchists and protesters?


Trump supporters call literally everyone they're against anti-fa.

People with common sense (most of the country) are already against Trump.

We're also getting paid by Soros. :lol:

It helps with their vast conspiracy theory of why most of the country is against their orange ogre.



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18 Aug 2018, 9:19 pm

Biscuitman wrote:
Are people now just lazily labelling anyone protesting against hard right politics as 'antifa' or are they distinguishing them from traditional anarchists and protesters?


I can tell you, as a political activist, no, on the right most of us don't label everyone protesting as "antifa." Antifa is just that: Antifa. They're pretty easy to distinguish as they wear all black and belong to organized chapters (e.g. Boston Antifa) as a part of an overall larger movement that extends to western Europe. Otherwise, we do not call everyone Antifa, they made it clear to everyone that they are their own entity.


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19 Aug 2018, 7:48 am

Hyeokgeose wrote:
Biscuitman wrote:
Are people now just lazily labelling anyone protesting against hard right politics as 'antifa' or are they distinguishing them from traditional anarchists and protesters?


I can tell you, as a political activist, no, on the right most of us don't label everyone protesting as "antifa." Antifa is just that: Antifa. They're pretty easy to distinguish as they wear all black and belong to organized chapters (e.g. Boston Antifa) as a part of an overall larger movement that extends to western Europe. Otherwise, we do not call everyone Antifa, they made it clear to everyone that they are their own entity.


thanks. I am in the UK so this is all a bit alien to me



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21 Aug 2018, 12:56 pm

Biscuitman wrote:
Are people now just lazily labelling anyone protesting against hard right politics as 'antifa' or are they distinguishing them from traditional anarchists and protesters?


Freedom of speech is now a hard right policy? Good to know.



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21 Aug 2018, 3:39 pm

Bataar wrote:
Freedom of speech is now a hard right policy? Good to know.


Free speech is for everyone. It allows us to freely exchange thoughts, feelings, ideas, views. Attack it and you attack progress, innovation, modernity. The enemies of free speech don't like it and only want their view to be heard.