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15 Dec 2017, 1:41 pm

I'm breaking rules by even replying here, but... I hear you. Dozens of WP members have been frustrated by this issue over the years, and when a member is causing that level of distress to others, it's not right.



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15 Dec 2017, 2:12 pm

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I'm breaking rules by even replying here, but... I hear you. Dozens of WP members have been frustrated by this issue over the years, and when a member is causing that level of distress to others, it's not right.



I've ignored his threads but saw the locked one and read it. Why can't everyone else ignore him?


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15 Dec 2017, 2:15 pm

Ashariel wrote:
I'm breaking rules by even replying here, but... I hear you. Dozens of WP members have been frustrated by this issue over the years, and when a member is causing that level of distress to others, it's not right.


Yes. Even though I had the choice to stay out of it, which I had for years, I got sucked in and found the experience distressful during and afterwards. And I came close to getting involved in trying to help, that would have gone against my parents rules for forum use behind their back.



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15 Dec 2017, 2:18 pm

League_Girl wrote:
Ashariel wrote:
I'm breaking rules by even replying here, but... I hear you. Dozens of WP members have been frustrated by this issue over the years, and when a member is causing that level of distress to others, it's not right.



I've ignored his threads but saw the locked one and read it. Why can't everyone else ignore him?


People with autism aren't necessary good at that. That's the problem with something like that taking place in an autism forum in the first place.



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15 Dec 2017, 2:29 pm

There's a difference between politely asking someone to come over with tools & help you fix your car and aggressively asking for someone to fix it for you or pay someone to fix it for you. That's the difference ASS-P has never learned. He says he's asking for help, but he's not, he's asking for a handout. There's a difference.

Further, he's asking it of people in society who, for the most part, can least afford to give it - THAT'S the part that makes his pleas for "help" (aka a handout in his situation) so infuriating.

I acknowledge that ASS-P is.. not well, and hasn't lived an ideal life, and his own mental health issues are somewhat at the root of his not realizing how out of line aggressive panhandling is, wether on a street corner or this forum. I feel for the guy having to go through life existing as he does, thinking & behaving as he does.

None-the-less, he has actual real world help all around him to ensure he has shelter, food, water, rest, medicine etc and his Wants are not any of our financial problem to resolve. I do hope that he re-reads some of the advice given to him in his thread and makes use of local resources available to him to set up a storage space if he truly values his brothers stuff over buying healthy food to eat. He doesn't have to be very resourceful to solve his own problem with a little actual help from someone right beside him - we laid out many different options for him of how to do so, he just has to follow through and act on the advice if that's what he truly wants to accomplish. Sure, he's incapable of doing it all on his own - but he's Not all on his own. There are NT rehab workers & social workers etc all around him that he can get a little help from to make a payment to a storage place with his own funds that he doesn't spend on rent.


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15 Dec 2017, 2:33 pm

League_Girl wrote:
I've ignored his threads but saw the locked one and read it. Why can't everyone else ignore him?


Because (a) some of us really do wish we could help him, and (b) I can't in good conscience watch as well-meaning new members continually fall prey to his innocent pleas for help, only for it to result in a frustrating waste of their time, energy, sanity, and (in a few cases) money. I allowed that to happen once, and regret my silence.

I do wish him the best, and hope his situation can improve. But not at the expense of harassing other members, or guilt-tripping naive autistic people who don't know his history.



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15 Dec 2017, 2:37 pm

As for the cats.. you're going to need to make some of these:

Step 1:

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Step 2:

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15 Dec 2017, 2:41 pm

Ashariel wrote:
League_Girl wrote:
I've ignored his threads but saw the locked one and read it. Why can't everyone else ignore him?


Because (a) some of us really do wish we could help him, and (b) I can't in good conscience watch as well-meaning new members continually fall prey to his innocent pleas for help, only for it to result in a frustrating waste of their time, energy, sanity, and (in a few cases) money. I allowed that to happen once, and regret my silence.

I do wish him the best, and hope his situation can improve. But not at the expense of harassing other members, or guilt-tripping naive autistic people who don't know his history.


Yep, this.

He's probably never known any other way to try to solve a financial expense problem other than to beg for money. Still doesn't mean anyone here should be taken advantage of spending $ on his issues that aren't exactly necessities of life. Different story if he posted that he'd cashed his check but was robbed by someone who realized he couldn't chase after him and Needed $18 to fill a prescription so he doesn't get gangrene and lose his whole leg or something. At least he's honest about what he's begging for instead of making up a story like that, I suppose. But my point is even I would be more apt to give him a handout if he truly Needed it. He doesn't, though. He just wishes life were different and he could afford to store his brothers stuff.


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15 Dec 2017, 2:50 pm

Ok, Ive calmed down a bit. I haven't had an angry meltdown in a while, and its not a pretty sight. Like Banner becoming the Hulk. I realize full well that I may be banned for this thread, but if the mods don't enforce the same rules on everybody then the place is not worth coming to.



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15 Dec 2017, 2:54 pm

goldfish21 wrote:
As for the cats.. you're going to need to make some of these:

Step 1:

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Step 2:

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I like cats, I would never do that lol.



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15 Dec 2017, 2:57 pm

drwho222 wrote:
Ok, Ive calmed down a bit. I haven't had an angry meltdown in a while, and its not a pretty sight. Like Banner becoming the Hulk. I realize full well that I may be banned for this thread, but if the mods don't enforce the same rules on everybody then the place is not worth coming to.


You were out of line starting this thread, just as some of us are out of line for posting it in. But, pardon my French, the whole situation f****d some of us up.



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15 Dec 2017, 3:01 pm

drwho222 wrote:
Ok, Ive calmed down a bit. I haven't had an angry meltdown in a while, and its not a pretty sight. Like Banner becoming the Hulk. I realize full well that I may be banned for this thread, but if the mods don't enforce the same rules on everybody then the place is not worth coming to.


consider *this* your third warning, then. :)

guys, please don't respond to obvious troll threads if you see them, it doesn't make things any easier - although this does raise a good point about how much we are allowed or able to help each other out here, that i think could be discussed in another thread.


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