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What are my coincidences?
Supernatural phenomena 13%  13%  [ 3 ]
Delusions, symptoms of psychosis 35%  35%  [ 8 ]
Ideas of reference 4%  4%  [ 1 ]
Effects of mere mathematical chance 48%  48%  [ 11 ]
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18 Sep 2018, 5:20 pm

I dunno where mr Tech is coming from.

Youre one of the LAST individuals I know whom I would encourage to take LSD.

Youre already a little too psychedelic IMHO. Lol!

But that's just my opinion. I am not a mental health professional.

Never knew that Scots were called "Jocks" as an ethnic group. But their flag is blue and While. Don't know where you see either "vulgarism" nor "satanic symbolism" in that Venn diagram. Not sure what that diagram has to do with the topic. Though it is a cute and kinda humorous.



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18 Sep 2018, 5:34 pm

Only if everything he's seeing is resulting from OCD. If it's schizophrenia-related it's the last thing he'd want to do. That's why I'd tell him to consult a doctor though rather than try something recreationally.


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19 Sep 2018, 12:28 am

I agree with the patient himself that it doesn't walk nor quack like OCD. If he were fearful and anxious that something bad would happen to him if he doesnt do something fast (like do all of this math) then that would be OCD (like "if I don't wear gloves every time a touch a doorknob I will get germs")

It looks more like an escapist fantasy that involves a conspiracy of spirits in the outside world- spirits who think that he so damned important that he is worthy of being conspired against. Definitely has the feel of paranoia and of notions of reference. It walks and quacks like psychosis.



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19 Sep 2018, 6:43 am

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It looks more like an escapist fantasy that involves a conspiracy of spirits in the outside world- spirits who think that he so damned important that he is worthy of being conspired against. Definitely has the feel of paranoia and of notions of reference. It walks and quacks like psychosis.

I think I've also just been a bit annoyed that he won't confront it or interact with it in some particular manner. An escapist fantasy is something that's in the sphere of your agency, ie. it's a cover for or coping mechanism to hide from something that's bothering you more than having it. The OP is by all intents and purposes journaling in this thread. Having imaginary friends, knowing on some level deep down that they're imaginary would make writing threads about them a bit unlikely and even more unlikely for one to ask for advice.

If he were to take ownership/responsibility for this he'd do some kind of psychosynthesis or Jungian analysis of what's happening with him. Some of the synchronicities could be real, in my own experience I tend to doubt that we live in quite as solid or non-mental a universe as many like to think, but even having done quite a bit of research into paranormal types of activity, occult development paths, and listened to and read some of the most stoic, practical, and well-studied modern Hermeticists from around the world the overall schema of assessing these things tends to be that you assume normal/material causes unless there's an explicit reason not to, then if it's something as routine and angular/eccentric as this the likelihood that what's happening isn't outside forces but rather you (selective attention, actual synchronicities, and everything in between) is quite high. If it were daemonic entities, you could think of them more like getting pestered by wild life; he'd notice something that was actually trying to grapple with him emotionally and throw him into flights of fear, lust, or whatever emotion that was it's preferred lunch. If it were something both outside and highly intelligent he wouldn't be writing these threads - the conversation already would have been had without our need to be involved and he would have taken action in some way because there'd be no choice.

This is where I think, if the OP were take the optimal approach to this, he'd recognize that these events are his own mind's doing, that they're subconscious in origin, and he has to consider the likelihood that there's a disjunct somewhere in his system that's pushing these out.

Short of that, there's haldol, risperidal, etc.. Medications seem to be great for very narrow ranges when people have such a chemical excess or deficiency that the medication does the exact equal and opposite, when that's not the case the side-effects are often worse than the problem. That's part of why in most cases there really aren't any enjoyable outcomes that don't involve taking responsibility when one has the chance.


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19 Sep 2018, 9:42 am

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0KSOMA3QBU0

What Happened to Michelangelo's, Van Gogh's, Da Vinci's,
And Einstein's all Filled up With Imagination
that comes to Fruition; Mostly either
Drugged up
or Working
at the
Corner 7 to
11 Convenience
Store, Homeless; or Playing a Video
Game in a Basement going NOWHERE
or trapped in an endless Forum going NOWHERE
until one gains Will
in Strength
Fearless
Courage
in Grace
of Balance
of Love in
Kind
of
Life
to
Escape
And 'Alices' and 'Boogie
WonderLands' come back again to play;
For those Horatio's who have never seen and or
heard the Colors of Life, more; just one Tea spoon
of those Flavors and they would come to
understand First and or Last or again
the
Difference Between
Heaven, Purgatory, and Hell Now.
It's not the Form that Counts Most; it's the Essence
and with a Pension enough Provided by the Village
supporting 'the Shaman'
Heaven continues
with reports back to 'The Grave' in 'the
Cave' Or Just Brings 2 Thousand or So Photos
of Beautiful Women Back to Life in an Art of Smiles.

It just depends on what counts in life; FLoWeRS or STinK Bugs.

"Silence of 'the' Lions Beyond Love"; Anyway, this is an Internet Site for the Neuro-Diverse
And of course as all Stuff Politics and Religions that are more concerned now about Black and
White than Colors of Life 'they' Do their Very Best to Enforce the Rules and Flush Colors out of Black and White
(Facilities). I come Here to See the NeuroDiverse; I come Here to See the Additional Colors of Life; and not unlike
that Painting of 'Scream', I see the Black and White Howl not having any idea where they currently Live; it's funny;
it's
beyond
Sad; it's Black and
White Devoid of Colors in Black Hole Sun Life Real.
This place is much more interesting in a Mix of Black and White and Colors
as all have their place from Drones to King and or Queen Bees of Ecstasy. Currently
the Moderation is allowing more of the Colors; and that's kind of Nice for those who are not Color Blind.

Yep; I can do Black and White Again with a Flick of My Wrist with two Fingers Held Together Separated Again.

But I'd rather Live and Bring back the Evidence of Heaven Real 'At Hand'.

And as Far as the Dude who is 'His Topic of Conversation now' in this little Internet thread that is harming
no one; And is the Exploration of a Neuro-Diverse Mind; the end result will be Colors of Life or
A Remaining Black and White Existence as is Black and White. Smiles, the Meaning and
Purpose of Life is to Make it Colorful and the Meaning and Purpose of Life
other wise is the other Place of Black and White and that's Okay
for those
who care
not to Crawl out
of the Cave and are
Satisfied with the Cave Art of Old.
Smiling Women is enough for me as Evolutionary Speaking That's What Most Males Do Best When More Fully Entertaining
And in Making Art Count for all Creativity, Productivity and Social Cooperation where one Katy Perry Song Blows away
Anything an Intellectual Dark Web will Bring the Entire Human Species of Soul. Males, Overall, are falling behind in
so many
ways for
the Real Purpose
and Meaning of Life
Most is Art and Female Smiles.
But it's true Porn is the Driving Force of the Internet as it stays rather Shallow this way, too..;)

Life is Rather More Like a Poem Than a Science Project for those who see and hear with 'smART'.

Perhaps it's a coincidence that 60 Percent of smart is ART or Perhaps God as Nature has an overall
Sense and Feel of Humor in terms of Live and Evil and Stressed and Desserts and Lived and Devil too.

I dunno; But Female SMiLeS are enough for me. And it's also Worth Noting tHere is a FREd in FRiEnD for
those who see and hear that too; and if one make Friends Enough with Words, Letters, Numbers, and Other Symbols
that makes for a Diversion at least until the Female Smiles Come Rolling in like a Hurricane that Never ends now as
that comes
Best with a
Free Dance that
Doesn't care about
the Rules of 'Smaller Men' Now.

The Most Difficult Challenge of All is to come to know, feel, and sense more of our Human Potentials and how we
can/will help lift other folks up as that is what all Social Animals Do Best. My Speciality is Making Women Smile; my aim
is to do that even more, now; and so far it is F in Working for they see that Fred in Friend. 'They' have a Different Kind of
Intelligence;
the
Happy Kind;
I enhance Happy the
Best a Social Animal Will.
Before that I Entertained Symbols;
And Found That Eventually Rather Empty; and Moved on to Human SMiLeS.


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19 Sep 2018, 4:25 pm

My coincidences are not OCD issues although I have OCD. They fascinate me. They may be just a supernatural phenomenon which happened in my life. I might have ideas that I'm a messenger of The Almighty which is proved by notorious coincidences. Today my coincidences have fourth "birthday".

I am against nonmedical, recreational use of substances like LSD.

Let's sum up informations about 21.7 coincidence - part 1:
1. My first ambulatory visit with the psychiatrist (my former one) after onset of coincidences occurred 21.10.2014 and was postponed from 07.10.2014. 21st and 7th day of the month.
- the number meaning month is the sum of digits in numbers 21 and 7 (2+1+7=10),
- sum of digits in number meaning year is 7 (2+0+1+4=7),
- there are 2 weeks (14 days) between initial and later term of the visit,
* numbers 2 and 14 can be separated from the number meaning year (2014),
* product of numbers 2 and 14 is 28, which is the sum of 21 and 7,
- from the number meaning year a geometrical sequence with sum of numbers 7 can be formed: 1, 2, 4,
- from the number meaning year an arithmetical sequence with sum of numbers 3 (21:7) can be formed: 0, 1, 2.
2. My second visit with a psychiatrist after beginning of the coincidences occurred 27.1.2015, the sum of numbers meaning day and month is 28 (21+7), numbers meaning day and month are formed by the same digits as 21 and 7.
3. My first visit during which I received diagnoses F21, F42.2, F84.5 at the same time together (and only them) occurred 28.4.2015.
- the number meaning day is the sum of numbers 21 and 7,
- the quotient of number meaning day and number meaning month is 7 (28:4),
- from the digits of numbers meaning day and month a geometrical sequence can be formed (2, 4, 8 ), its sum is 14 (21-7 or arithmetic mean of 21 and 7)
4. Sum of numbers in the sequence 21, 42, 84 is 147 (21*7).
5. Sums of digits in numbers 21, 42, 84 form geometrical sequence with sum 21 (3, 6, 12) and differences of digits form geometrical sequence with sum 7 (1, 2, 4).
6. Sum of digits in first part of codes F84.5, F42.2, F21 is 21 (8+4+4+2+2+1=21) and in second parts sum of digits is 7 (5+2).



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19 Sep 2018, 7:36 pm

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My coincidences are not OCD issues although I have OCD. They fascinate me. They may be just a supernatural phenomenon which happened in my life. I might have ideas that I'm a messenger of The Almighty which is proved by notorious coincidences. Today my coincidences have fourth "birthday".

There's a book by Kirby Surprise called Synchronicity that I read sometime back in 2012 or 2013. While there was a lot of speculation passed off as assured truth that I wasn't particularly impressed by he did talk a lot about having patients (as a psychologist) who had something close to what you're describing in that they'd seem like very sensible/normal people outwardly until they then privileged him to a secret that they told very few people - ie. that they were one of God's 'chosen', and simultaneously cursed, because their lives were absolutely buried in constant synchronicities, synchronicities that Kirby could see happening in real time and commented on in the book. You might find some useful information in that, just that you might want to skip over some of his other stuff in there on tulpas.

I think a lot of people make the mistake of thinking that if the world has a mental component in its construction then it will be highly teleological and very cognisciently interested in our lives (Abrhamic religion has culturally persuaded us of that) and that tends to lead people to extreme dipoles of either full theism and teleology, full physicalism/materialism and no teleology, and very little nuance in between. The truth seems like it's much more complex, in some ways more depressing in that the synchronicities aren't necessarily proof that the universe is catering to one's whims or paying close attention to them - it seems like it's something else that we really don't have a grasp on yet which causes this sort of thing and it's not nearly as gratifying in terms of meaning as some might hope.

nca14 wrote:
I am against nonmedical, recreational use of substances like LSD.

And unless you have to touch your door handle seven times every time you go to your room or wash your hands exactly eleven times you probably don't need to go that route - medically or recreationally. Psychedelics have medicinal use, that's been known since the 1950's, but we're still such a raw/tribal culture that a lot of our laws aren't even necessarily based on science and a lot of how 'narcotics' are all grouped together didn't come from scientific evidence or anything like that, more like a cultural springback against things that happened in the late 1960's (the neurologist Oliver Sacks was on the record saying that he did feel a lot of that was the fault of people like Timothy Leary).


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21 Sep 2018, 2:43 pm

Part 2 about 21.7:
7. Next visit with my former psychiatrist after that from 28.4.2015 took place 21.7.2015.
8. Seventh (7th) member of arithmetical sequence starting from 3, 6, 9 is 21.
9. If we count 0 as a triangular number ("empty triangle"), 7th triangular number would be 21; if we not count 0 as a triangular number (TN), 7th TN would be 28 (21+7).
10. Sum of numbers in arithmetical sequence 33, 42, 51 divided by arithmetical mean of arithmetical sequence 3, 6, 9 is 21 ((33+42+51):((3+6+9):3))=126:(18:3)=126:6=21) and sum of numbers in arithmetical sequence 33, 42, 51 divided by sum of numbers of arithmetical sequence 3, 6, 9 is 7 ((33+42+51):(3+6+9)=126:18=7).
11. Difference between sum of numbers in geometrical sequence (GS) 21, 42, 84 and sum of numbers in arithmetical sequence (AS) 33, 42, 51 is 21 ((21+42+84)-(33+42+51)=147-126=21), difference between arithmetical mean of GS 21, 42, 84 and arithmetical mean of AS 33, 42, 51 is 7 (((21+42+84):3)-((33+42+51):3)=(147:3)-(126:3)=49-42=7), difference between sum of digits in GS 21, 42, 84 and sum of digits in AS 33, 42, 51 is 3 (21:7) ((2+1+4+2+8+4)-(3+3+4+2+5+1)=21-18=3).
12. My second going to a day hospital ended 27.1.2017 (from the digits of that date two numbers 21 and two numbers 7 can be formed, sum of numbers meaning day and month is 28 (21+7)).
13. I got certificate needed to apply for ruling of level of disability from a psychiatrist 21.7.2017 (two 21.7 phrases can be formed from that date), on that certificate F84.5, F42.2, F21 were mentioned.
14. My third full-term going to (another) day hospital started 27.4.2017 and ended 24.7.2017, these two dates are "constructed" by the same digits and have the same sum of numbers, from that dates three (21:7=3) three-term ascending arithmetical sequences with sum 21 and arithmetical mean 7 can be formed (0, 7, 14; 2, 7, 12; 4, 7, 10).
15. I experienced large coincidence 16.4.2018, from that date a geometrical sequence with sum 21 and arithmetical mean 7 can be formed (1, 4, 16), if we sort first (meaningful) digits in that date descendingly or ascendingly, we will receive arithmetical sequences with sum 7 (4, 2, 1 or 1, 2, 4), from the digits in that sequence number 21 can be formed.



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23 Sep 2018, 11:45 am

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nca14 wrote:
My coincidences are not OCD issues although I have OCD. They fascinate me. They may be just a supernatural phenomenon which happened in my life. I might have ideas that I'm a messenger of The Almighty which is proved by notorious coincidences. Today my coincidences have fourth "birthday".

There's a book by Kirby Surprise called Synchronicity that I read sometime back in 2012 or 2013. While there was a lot of speculation passed off as assured truth that I wasn't particularly impressed by he did talk a lot about having patients (as a psychologist) who had something close to what you're describing in that they'd seem like very sensible/normal people outwardly until they then privileged him to a secret that they told very few people - ie. that they were one of God's 'chosen', and simultaneously cursed, because their lives were absolutely buried in constant synchronicities, synchronicities that Kirby could see happening in real time and commented on in the book. You might want to skip over some of his other stuff in there on tulpas.

So I am not the only human who experienced such a large amount of coincidences or synchronicities? Do another people who experienced something similar were diagnosed with any mental disorders due to that? Who were people whose lives were absolutely buried in constant synchronicities? How many people experienced such a phenomenon?



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23 Sep 2018, 1:01 pm

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So I am not the only human who experienced such a large amount of coincidences or synchronicities? Do another people who experienced something similar were diagnosed with any mental disorders due to that? Who were people whose lives were absolutely buried in constant synchronicities? How many people experienced such a phenomenon?

Since its your predicament I'm going to invite you to do your own research. Kirby Surprise's book Synchronicity: The Art of Coincidence, Choice, and Unlocking Your Mind touches on it (the accounts I was speaking of earlier), my only warning about him is that he's a little dodgy on the everything goes new age edge - that doesn't at all mean that the chapters I described wouldn't be incredibly useful to you, just that I wouldn't take everything in the book hook, line, and sinker.

There are closely related topics like transpersonal psychology, depth psychology, pretty much any form of psychology that inherits heavily from Carl Jung or Erich Neumann and takes his work on synchronicities seriously will be able to tell you more about it.


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23 Sep 2018, 1:37 pm

synchronicity touches on that,
but without proper groundwork, mind your mind, with "numerology" it's a fast way to chaos and psychosis

or by fixating on one type of thing, you see that everywhere and only,
mostly its a description of you in the present (status quo)
interesting in the i-ching, the importance isn't in present but more in the change to the next present

once a person was obsessed like that, i joked, the signs are always there, but we don't know what they are; it could be a red thread if you would, later on there were bits of red thread (from the cc-sort) on our way, very funny



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23 Sep 2018, 2:11 pm

I'd add - I don't think synchronicities have much to do with God, no God, or any notion that it's signs from God or anything else. It's closer to the likelihood that we're grounded in, and swimming in, information in more ways than we're likely to understand for centuries to come. Our relationship to that information, how it impacts us, how we in turn feed back into it, is very difficult to get a handle on.

In that sense, from one angle, just because it's weird doesn't mean it's not true, but from the opposite angle just because its weird doesn't mean its teleological either.


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Jim Al-Khalili on information:


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So it looks that there are other people who experienced many coincidences in their lives. But are they diagnosed with psychosis due to it? How many people had coincidences associated with geometrical or arithmetical sequences in own life? Why my coincidences "exploded" quite suddenly in autumn 2014? I did not get any medications when my coincidences started for some weeks, if I remember it well.

How much people were at the same time diagnosed with these three disorders:
- F84.5 (Asperger's syndrome, a pervasive developmental disorder)
- F42.2 (mixed obsessive-compulsive disorder)
- F21 (schizophrenia-type (schizotypal) disorder)
I was diagnosed with only these three together quite many times in my life during ambulatory visits with psychiatrists.

Big coincidence from 28.4.2015 would not happen when I would be diagnosed with (paranoid) schizophrenia (F20(.0)) that day or Asperger's syndrome would have code F84.2 or F84.4 in the ICD-10. Are there another people who were diagnosed with F84.5, F42.2, F21? If yes, do they wrote in the Internet about coincidences formed by numbers in diagnostic codes of the disorders? If I remember it well, I told my former psychiatrist about the geometrical sequence formed by numbers in ICD-10 codes quickly after receiving these three diagnoses.



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26 Sep 2018, 4:58 pm

Don't know, but that's your thing to research not ours.


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