Why do you not like an Autistic political party?
In all fairness (if his profile is correct) he/she is only 14.
Can be forgiven for (a) thinking that his idea is a good idea, and (b)be forgiven for not taking up the burden of proof. I have been trying to get the OP to state why he thinks its a good idea, before he even starts to asks US why we are not enthused by the idea. But that was before I noticed that he was just a junior high kid.
To the OP:it just wouldnt work out the way that you imagine. All autistics band together and form a political party, and then suddenly that party is in the same weight class as the Dems. and the GOP (or Labour, and Conservative, in the UK, or whatever the parties are in whatever country you're in). And then that party does the bidding of autistics going toe to toe with the other two parties, and gives autistics power.
We are less than two percent of the population. So a party consisting of only autistics could (even in theory) only wield power on the scale of any other fringe party (like the Greens, or the Libertarians). And in reality it could never even have THAT tiny amount of power because you could never organize autistics into a united voting bloc like that.
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More likely they become complacent. It depends how much they are minded to care.
Anyway, I detest this bloc voting idea. It's intellectually lazy and, furthermore, often breeds contempt. It's communal politics of the kind we would be best to do away with.
It's a goofy idea. We're all over the map on politics here.
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Yeah.
When you grow older, you learn about many organizations which are concerned with universal human rights. An autistic political party is unnecessary.
Plus, banding autistics together under a common cause is like herding cats. It's hard to make autistic people agree on anything. For example, I spend a great deal of time reading about different species of shark. I have difficulty finding other people on the spectrum who are into that sort of thing.
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Why not just make a Healthcare party for better health care and for better services for people with disabilities? There would be autistic members as well.
A fully autistic political party will not win in an election because autistic people are a minority, but healthcare applies to everyone.
Edit: that's a stupid idea, too.
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It’s probably be labele as a terrorist group and bared from office. Media tried to paint as as dangerous people. What would you call an organization of supposed dangerous people?
Besides that it wouldn’t work aspies are different as this section shows we don’t agree on stuff so a political party couldn’t form as there’s be infighting between its left and right elements
Looking at the successes and failures of certain big movements, forming a single-issue party seems to be the way to failure.
Women's rights and equality have been fairly successfully fought for, comoared to the situation 2 generations ago, while it was not the success of a single women's rights party- no, you can find proponents in all major parties (albeit to differing extent).
Then look at environmentalism - there's green parties in a lot of countries, yet they barely get elected on national levels.
Or internet-rights and issues parties, like the pirate parties of europe. Their issues are essential for the way the internet develops, but they can't get any votes. Not that their issues aren't important, but for almost no voter, this importance outweighs all the other important things.
So, I conclude: if you want something done, don't form a party.
Infiltrate the existing structures, so it doesn't matter which party gets elected, because your issue is an issue for all of them.
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Then there's the simple fact that we on the autistic spectrum are a distinct minority. That would be like trying to form an African American party, or a Muslim American party. There would never be enough votes for autistic spectrum candidates to win elected office, let alone to influence policy.
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Because our goal is to reduce marginalization, and to organize along the lines of our disability would be self-marginalization. If you want society to accept us, support a party that will acknowledge our needs. Creating a party of aspies and auties will simply create an us vs them scenario. We need other people on our side, and we won't get that if we exclude others. Also, I don't know what it's like for others with our affliction, but I personally only consider it a small part of my personal identity. I'm an aspie, but I'm plenty of other things too and I'd much rather be known for most of those other aspects of my identity first and foremost.
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This.
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I think the most compelling, and unanswerable, argument against such a party has been made, and is made on a daily basis, by this very subforum.
On the subject of politics or religion, we can't hold a measured, adult conversation here for any length of time before it's disrupted by trolls, and those trolls are members here. Whether they're genuinely ASD, or pestiferous disrupters, or just someone-or-other having a bad day and wanting to share the wealth, I don't know nor do I care; they succeed repeatedly, which means we - as a group - have neither the will nor the wit to identify and simply ignore their efforts. (Edit in: nor are we very good at controlling our urges to take gratuitous swipes at those with whom we disagree. Political orientation irrelevant, this flaw is universal AFAICS - I've succumbed too.)
If we as a group can't keep even a discussion thread civil and focused, how in the name of all that is holy would we manage a political movement?
I don't like what I just typed, not one bit; but I haven't liked observing it here for the past six months, either. (And you *did* ask. And I'm Aspie as hell, so I answered. )
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In this country we have the Women's Equality Party. There are far more women than autistic people, and they're far better at distributing propaganda. Indeed, the WEP has more members than some of the mainstream parties.
They ended up standing in only a handful of seats, won fewer votes than they have members, and didn't get a single seat.
Under a PR system with a threshold, they still wouldn't have got a seat.
What chance does an autistic party have?
Much better to just try and shift the platform of other parties by taking part in their, raising motions at conference, discussing things with other members, etc.
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