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Can you give specifics of what you mean by this?


I can't go with this argument though. I don't know where he's promoting nationalism, if he has I haven't heard the speech. If it's hierarchies he's saying that the best we can hope for is to make them as benevolent as possible but that their literally insolvable, and what I think he means is they're a reflexive aspect of conscious social interaction where the moment you have two people interacting and realizing they have different strengths and weaknesses certain hierarchies have already formed between the two people, and when that becomes towns, cities, states, etc. the town, city or state that's run by someone picked at random rather than the most competent tended to languish or be conquered throughout history.

I'm also curious on what you mean about him being anti-diversity? Is there anything he's said that explicitly makes that case?


I have to do this is again, do you mean right-wing as in people who want small government? Do you mean libertarians? Anarco-Capitalists? Minarchists? Do you mean bible-thumpers? Globalist neocons? Are you specifically meaning national socialists, white identitarians, or the self-labeled alt-right? I've seen this mean 'anyone anywhere to the right of me who says things I disagree with' and I have to clarify that you mean something specific by this because you haven't really zoned what the term right-wing means to you.


The reason I was dismissive in the post before this is that I saw nothing but vague allegations and no specifics. The closest thing I saw to that was the first thing you said about the two year old, and I remember that particular interview or chat where he was making a point in context about something else. The rest of what you launched off into, particularly the neo-Marxist = dog-whistle for Jewish or gay, that's typically a pattern people employ, ie. shower a person or thing with adjectives or long-guesses, when they're heavy on feelings about someone or something but don't have any good arguments or specifics to nail down what they mean logically. It doesn't even mean someone's wrong, it just tends to suggest that they haven't done enough digging to do more than say 'from the sidewalk this is how it vibes up to me'. That could mean that if they look into further they could find substantive points to back that claim, or they could find that a lot of beliefs or attitudes they imputed to that person weren't there at all and then they have to go back and ask themselves what personal beliefs that particular individual challenged in them which got them riled up enough to see them that way on reflex.

Something that might be of help to you - Dave Rubin had Bret and Eric Weinstein on the Rubin Report a while back and both Bret and Eric were talking about Jordan and what their initial thoughts were on him and what they've come to think of him over time. Bret's probably my favorite of the IDW for his clarity and precision on a lot of issues at the nexus of biology and sociology, and his chat with Travis Pangburn really showcased that well. Aside from that it's useful to hear a couple progressives talk about him and give their weigh-in.

The throwing kids comment is in this excerpt from 12 Rules For Life:
http://nationalpost.com/news/excerpt-fr ... her-people

The excerpt deals with bad and permissive parenting, children becoming tyrants or nearly lawless in their behavior, and his comment underscored how parents feel when they watch their child being bullied.

I also need to add - I've heard Jordan Peterson repeatedly, in many lectures and interviews, state that a highly functional left is needed and that the left fills a very important role - being a voice for the less fortunate and speaking truth to power on their behalf. He's often stated that the dark side of hierarchies is that they tend to cause a lot of people to 'stack up at 0' and if too many people stack up at 0 the whole society falls apart either by revolution or even just destruction of market.

Eric was on fire here, in a really good way.