17 year old son with ASD who identifies as a Nazi
I just feel that the kid needs boundaries.
If you don't set boundaries, he will run roughshod over you.
Your son is a smart person. He should read what ChefDave posted. Its about the REAL Nazis----not those people in the US and other places who like to play Nazi.
I sympathize with what you have to go through with your son.
But your son needs to CHANGE. See the forest for the trees. Otherwise, he will have an unhappy existence for the rest of his life.
And you can help him change. By being firm.
To be honest, I don't know what I would do in you situation. I might handle it really bad.
This is advice from a person who is detached from the situation.
I feel like he needs to know about adult responsibility, and that he should be nicer to his little sister---no matter how "handicapped" she is.
First claimed that her dropped out in the 9th grade than claim he has his GED, btw, one cannot get his or her GED until they turn 18, so that is patently false.
First claimed her son was a NAZI then changed it to " he is just fascinated with WW2"
Claimed he threatenes to kick his sister with severe disabilities changes to he is just afraid of her
You came here asked for sympathy and when you did not get it you changes the narrative.
Yes I am triggered
I know a lot of people on this forum have pretty decent spidey senses, but be careful with conclusions based on what you THINK you know as fact. GED rules vary by state AND there are tests similar to the GED that have different names, but for convenience people call them GEDs. My daughter is tested out, high school equivalent diploma, in California, at the age of 17. The official name isn't GED, but heck if I can remember what the official name is. She has spent much of the past year sick and in November, at the school's suggestion, she took an equivalency test and passed easily. I only know that by law employers must consider it the equivalent of a high school diploma, and that it is good enough to move onto community college. The test wasn't hard so I'm not at all ready to jump to the conclusion the OPs son couldn't have tested out as a freshman. But dang I can't come up with the official name right now. My poor memory doesn't change reality: plenty of teens, my daughter included, under the age of 18, have that piece of paper.
As for the other points, in high stress situations, I don't think it is unusual for a parent's perception to change from day to day. I was like that, too, as we tried to figure out what was going on with our daughter. Until I was able to emotionally detached, my perceptions were all over the place. That is one of many different reasons I noted to the OP that she may need to emotionally separate herself and basically stop thinking like a mom. Watching your child go through the kinds of things she has described, especially when you are exhausted from having another special needs child, plays with your head. Nothing in her softened descriptions changes my instincts or advice; to me, it shows how much she loves her son and is trying to stay positive, and the real issue is whether or not that leaves her in a solid place to make decisions about her son right now. When my daughter was in a tough place a lot of the school meetings felt really harsh to me, but separating myself also made me realize that many of the harsh seeming suggestions were actually extremely sound. It's just hard to believe that the road for your child can be changing that rapidly in front of you and, even when you do believe it, to realize it is the best road. It's just all. so. very. hard. Don't expect perfect consistency or even sanity from a parent in the middle of all that.
Do I think her softened stance underestimates the risk with her son? Yes, I do. It is very easy to underestimate the risk with your own child. I often have. The kids usually flow between moods and perceptions to a much bigger extreme than the parents do. But understanding that doesn't yield a super clear path, either. The interest in a harmful ideology needs to be squashed, but a lot of proposed actions have the potential to backfire, and its going to be tricky. So. I stand by my instincts and advice in my earlier posts, and I will continue to take what the OP writes at face value. The situation is too tricky to risk her fleeing from help because we've been too quick to judge.
What you are talking about is the California High school Proficiency Exam. And yes I believe that you mean well and I understand your main thesis. But I am also a special education teacher for over ten years. This is not just a personal bias but a professional opinion. I have seen parents who do not regulate their kids behavior, either they can't or they won't. It has a determinantal effect on the child both emotionally and educationally. And of course there are extenuating circumstances that make it impossible to control a kid that is beyond the parents control and I have seen that. But often the childs behavior is a direct result of the parent did.
This case seems very different, she left and in some cases said something completely different. This implues some form pf manipulation, which I despise amd have no time for.
And for the record, the CAHSPE is not a GED equivalent. And most states require you to be 18, but you are right in Ohio, you can be 16.
A seventeen year old threatened to kick a three year old in the face.
You need to make sure that doesn't happen
Mandated Reporter Law
Can you keep an eye on the three year old constantly?
If not, how about getting a lock on the three year olds room
You could make going to school a condition of living at home
I know someone who had a stroke on their brain when they were born. I'm not sure what causes that to happen but more then likely it could have had to do with lack of oxygen to the brain or something.
Dump him in a group home
I wish members would be more careful challenging new posters so that this doesn't happen. It is better for the kids if the parents stay and get the chance to slowly learn where even the most negative posters are coming from.
CHSPE, yes, that was the name I couldn't think of. For someone like my daughter it serves the same purpose as a GED since officially both the CHSPE and GED are given the same weight as a high school diploma. To say they aren't the same may be true, but to a parent it's splitting hairs and its one heck of a lot easier to say "GED." Thankfully my child had a full transcript of completed core work (3 years of English including honors/AP work, math through AP calculus, 3 years social science/history work including one AP, etc) and 4 comfortably passed AP tests before taking the CHSPE and, having passed, ultimately deciding to leave school. All she is missing is government and econ, and she is slowly working through some on-line courses for those. It is important to us, her parents, that she not have those gaps in her education.
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I understand that you don't want to scare off new members but she was changing her story after and calling people out when she didnt the response she was expecting. I expect people to be adults and be able to understand what people are saying. None of us was saying anything bad, if anything people gave her some decent advice.
She just cant get a job with a military branch or a union that requires a GED, but she can go to community and transfer to a four year degree.
Not everyone is set out for traditional high school and I am glad there are options. Just like to make sure poeple are aware of the limitations of those options, thats all.
I asked her what signs led her to believe her son was AS. The question was ignored, and it is was an important one in my view, particularly as this is a forum that is centrally focused on AS.
If people post with the idea of the answer they want to their question, then they have the answer they want, and perhaps want agreement with it only, not new input from people with various different perspectives.
Whether that was the case here I don't know, though it seems a strong possibility.
And we do have to be careful with these "Nazi" threads as they are a favourite one for trolls, though I am not saying the OP is one.
[this is my advice but consulting a professional will be much better than me, im sure]
regardless of whether he's got aspergers i think being in his room alone all the time is pretty unhealthy. he's probably roaming the internet a lot, being influenced by things he reads and getting more hooked up on it. Have you heard of the hikikomori trend in Japan? i am not suggesting your son is a hikikomori but he displays a lot of similarities. He can rely on you to provide his every need and therefore he doesnt feel he needs to do anything. that's human nature. when im home and my mother is making me dinner and cleaning i quickly become lazy if she doesnt tell me off or encourages me to do stuff. I think he needs to feel that there is something for him outside other than the energy drink. Perhaps that way he'll be more relaxed about "owning" and being dominant in the house. Is he doing exercise? Is he eating healthy? These are also important as they affect his brain. if he's addicted to online stuff, consider maybe reducing his computer time as punishment or unless he does x,y,z? your generous authority will help him in the long run i think. my mother was strict with me but also understanding when needed.
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Well, we have the official diagnosis of ASD along with ADHD, anxiety disorder and depressive disorder. He did 3 days of testing at the Cleveland Clinic...which he was pretty angry about..had to threaten him with the police to get him to go. He's turned 18 now also. He's getting worse in regards to his sister and I'm not sure what to do...it isn't safe to let him live with her but he has nowhere else to go. I didn't stop parenting him...I did take away the internet and his xbox and it didn't help at all. He just sits in his room...angry. Still doesn't go anywhere...because the issue isn't the video games..it's the anxiety. He is getting help from professionals but it isn't going to be a quick fix by any means. I wasn't diagnosed until quite recently myself..so I didn't know how to help him either. I have a hard time taking care of myself...and I know that I haven't been the best mom. I should've done more while he was young..but I didn't know WHAT to do or HOW to do it. Anyway...I'm sorry for posting on this site bc I've gotten a whole lot of judgement when no one knows the whole situation. Thank you tho to those who had constructive comments and not just "pull the internet"...because obviously it's not that simple. If I didn't care or wasn't trying to get him help...I wouldn't have taken the time to ask you guys for advice.
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with diagnosis there's more options,
getting out of the house and getting structure, maybe there's something to explore in these ?
there's much more, a good organisation explains also the financial part of the program
https://pacificquest.org/our-programs/young-adults/
https://www.legacyfarmsvirginia.org/see ... in-america
https://www.allkindsoftherapy.com/treatment/youngadults
https://www.friendshipcircle.org/blog/2 ... ial-needs/
Explain to him how Hitler was a socialist and a hypocrite for being a complete mook for trying to mess with Russia in the winter. That's how Napoleon lost because Hitler realized that Stalin would kick his @$$ to the curb and punked out because of it.
That aside though, it sounds like an intervention plan should kick in soon.
Perhaps a group home or some sort of structured, therapeutic environment will help him. It sounds like being at home is not working for him and may not be safe for your daughter.
Sometimes environment makes all the difference. For me and some of my friends with autism, home is a difficult place to be because of the lack of structure. It is an easy place to fall into depression and codependency on parents.
Some of my friends with mental illness have gone to group homes temporarily because they couldn’t function well in school and we’re too anxious to leave the house. Being at a group home gave them inpedendence, confidence, and they were able to learn life skills.
Isolation also isn’t good for anyone and may have contributed to his hatred towards people and towards the world, leading to nazi beliefs. Isolation can lead to paranoia and radical beliefs. He really needs to get back into social settings.
Those are just my thoughts, thought not sure how helpful they are. I really hope things get better for you and your family.
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