Do NT's spend all their time socializing and hating Aspies?

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04 Aug 2018, 2:25 pm

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Personally we as Aspies are a far different,more logical (and superior) people than NT people anyway.


I agree Aspies are different & I do find them logical more often than not, but I don’t agree that Aspies are superior to other humans. From what I’ve read, observed, & experienced Aspies have uneven skill sets: excelling exponentially one area, while being delayed or impaired in another. I’m no expert though.



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04 Aug 2018, 6:09 pm

It sounds like you need to maybe get some help with your self esteem issues and depression. I mean seems like you have had it pretty rough, I mean when I was a kid I at least had my siblings and some cousins who I got along with alright. My parents did care of course they could have done a better job raising me and my siblings probably but they argued a lot and got a bit caught up in that until finally getting a divorce. Some years I made a few friends but we moved like every year so never developed any lasting friendships.

I mean from the sound of it you didn't have parents that tried to be supportive. That is bound to screw someone up and make them feel like everyone is against them.

You need a therapist at the very least. I mean I certainly feel a lot better about myself since I have gotten some help with my issues...though before I did I was convinced nothing could help me and that everyone had a problem with me or if they didn't already they would develop one.

If I were you even though you may not have experienced a specific traumatic event I'd look into meeting with a trauma therapist. I mean bullying like that I think is similar to a big trauma it's just a longer lasting slower trauma than one big life threatening thing all at once.


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04 Aug 2018, 8:38 pm

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It sounds like you need to maybe get some help with your self esteem issues and depression. I mean seems like you have had it pretty rough, I mean when I was a kid I at least had my siblings and some cousins who I got along with alright. My parents did care of course they could have done a better job raising me and my siblings probably but they argued a lot and got a bit caught up in that until finally getting a divorce. Some years I made a few friends but we moved like every year so never developed any lasting friendships.

I mean from the sound of it you didn't have parents that tried to be supportive. That is bound to screw someone up and make them feel like everyone is against them.

You need a therapist at the very least. I mean I certainly feel a lot better about myself since I have gotten some help with my issues...though before I did I was convinced nothing could help me and that everyone had a problem with me or if they didn't already they would develop one.

If I were you even though you may not have experienced a specific traumatic event I'd look into meeting with a trauma therapist. I mean bullying like that I think is similar to a big trauma it's just a longer lasting slower trauma than one big life threatening thing all at once.


I agree, Sweetleaf. Rick, you should see a psychologist or a licensed therapist for your depression and self esteem issues. I saw both a psychologist and a licensed therapist for my depression and self esteem issues. I'm so much better now because of it. Both the psychologist and the therapist helped me feel better about myself and gave me tips on how to treat myself with respect and take care of myself better. They both agree that severe bullying can be traumatic for people with disabilities or mental health issues. Not having good support network can really mess a person up and put them at greater risk for mental health problems. I know how expensive it can be to see a mental health professional and I know mental health services in America are not the best, but I'm sure you could see what is available in your community and find a mental health professional that you like.



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06 Aug 2018, 4:44 pm

It's all about how someone comes across. NT's might not know what Aspergers, Anxiety or anything like that is.

See it this way, is someone tries socialising with someone who can't think of anything to say and has no input in the conversation, that person will be seen as boring and perhaps rude.

If someone is nervous, making jumpy movements, etc, that person will be seen as perhaps unpredictable, odd and maybe even on drugs.

It's as simple as that really. From experience there is no agenda there or anything. People get 1 shot when meeting new people, if they come across as what I said above in this post, that's it, that person will have that impression of you.



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11 Aug 2018, 8:54 pm

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It seems to me NT's,even the most introverted NT people,and even NT people with other Neurological conditions besides Autism and Asperger's spend all of their time socializing and when every single time a Aspie tries to start a Conversation with them,it's always something like"get away from me","I'm too busy","back off","you're a freak",you're not worth talking to" along with other things like that,and no this isn't a teenagers thing. NT(non AS/ASD) people do same thing towards Aspies in their 20s,30s, 40s and even older as well.To me,NT people are same,whether if they are extroverted,introverted or NT'S with other Neurological conditions.They dislike Aspies. They don't try to get to know Aspies because we're awkward. They judge Aspies for no reason.They expect for us to so perfect,but yet they make mistakes.They criticize Aspies,no matter what Aspies do.I also believe that Aspies are superior in many ways considering what we go through, and the fact we don't need any friendships or romantic relationships like everyone else do,including people with other Neurological conditions besides AS/ASD,whether it's becasue we don't have the desire to or it's becasue we simply just decided to not try anymore after getting rejected so much.

I do not believe that your statement that all NTs hate Aspies is necessarily true. I've met some pretty nice NTs in my life who, even if I tell them I'm autistic, have remained friendly and respectful towards me. Now, there are some (but definitely not all) NTs that are slightly less accepting of people's neurobiology, and these are the people we should educate. You have previously posted that you think Aspies are superior to NTs. Again, I disagree with this because I think that Aspies and NTs should be considered equal. Simply put, I disagree with what you say.


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12 Aug 2018, 6:10 am

warrier120 wrote:
I do not believe that your statement that all NTs hate Aspies is necessarily true.


It's not true in the least. He's merely marginalizing the entire NT population based on one less-than-pleasant experience with one NT person.


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12 Aug 2018, 4:16 pm

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It's not true in the least. He's merely marginalizing the entire NT population based on one less-than-pleasant experience with one NT person.

Thanks for the clarification. Sometimes, I don't think before I post, so this is why people like you go and remind me of that.

To the OP:
I have learned myself that putting yourself above others just because of one small incident does more harm than good. What you posted reminds me of a phase I've been through in middle school. I started thinking of myself as superior to the "cool kids" after being rejected (rather insignificantly) by one of them. During that time, I thought I was too cool for friendship circles and became exclusive and less trusting. Whenever I talked to someone who I was not interested in, I would be respectful, but not super friendly.


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13 Aug 2018, 5:35 pm

warrier120 wrote:
rick42 wrote:
It seems to me NT's,even the most introverted NT people,and even NT people with other Neurological conditions besides Autism and Asperger's spend all of their time socializing and when every single time a Aspie tries to start a Conversation with them,it's always something like"get away from me","I'm too busy","back off","you're a freak",you're not worth talking to" along with other things like that,and no this isn't a teenagers thing. NT(non AS/ASD) people do same thing towards Aspies in their 20s,30s, 40s and even older as well.To me,NT people are same,whether if they are extroverted,introverted or NT'S with other Neurological conditions.They dislike Aspies. They don't try to get to know Aspies because we're awkward. They judge Aspies for no reason.They expect for us to so perfect,but yet they make mistakes.They criticize Aspies,no matter what Aspies do.I also believe that Aspies are superior in many ways considering what we go through, and the fact we don't need any friendships or romantic relationships like everyone else do,including people with other Neurological conditions besides AS/ASD,whether it's becasue we don't have the desire to or it's becasue we simply just decided to not try anymore after getting rejected so much.

I do not believe that your statement that all NTs hate Aspies is necessarily true. I've met some pretty nice NTs in my life who, even if I tell them I'm autistic, have remained friendly and respectful towards me. Now, there are some (but definitely not all) NTs that are slightly less accepting of people's neurobiology, and these are the people we should educate. You have previously posted that you think Aspies are superior to NTs. Again, I disagree with this because I think that Aspies and NTs should be considered equal. Simply put, I disagree with what you say.



NT tend to fake their "friendliness" when it comes to us Aspies to make it seems like they may actually like us,but they don't actually like us. I haven't met that many NT's who haven't faked their Friendliness towards me. NT's and Aspies are not equal.NT's are inferior and they spend all of their time socializing and if they are in the teens,20s and early 30s,they spend their time partying, while we as Aspies tend to think more logically, and don't need to friends or relationships(some do,but a lot of us don't need friends/relationships) .Also,most NT's fake their friendliness and kindness when it comes to Aspies. You may have met some NT who actually are accepting of Aspies,but the one who are accepting are a small minority.



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13 Aug 2018, 6:16 pm

All the OP does is repeat himself over and over in his posts, getting us to believe that we're all better than "them", all because of some bad personal experiences he's encountered. He's just another one of those "us vs them" Aspies. :roll:

It's actually starting to offend me, because I have a large family of (mostly) NTs and my colleagues are NTs, plus my boyfriend is NT and so is his family, and a lot of friends and other people I know are NTs.
And don't try the "oh you think they like you but they actually don't because they are all fakers" thing on me because it ain't gonna work. I know my own life, thank you.


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13 Aug 2018, 7:59 pm

Joe90 wrote:
All the OP does is repeat himself over and over in his posts, getting us to believe that we're all better than "them", all because of some bad personal experiences he's encountered. He's just another one of those "us vs them" Aspies. :roll:

It's actually starting to offend me, because I have a large family of (mostly) NTs and my colleagues are NTs, plus my boyfriend is NT and so is his family, and a lot of friends and other people I know are NTs.
And don't try the "oh you think they like you but they actually don't because they are all fakers" thing on me because it ain't gonna work. I know my own life, thank you.

Yup.

There are people at WP who are learning and growing, and people who are stuck in a rut and never going to change. I've learned to just ignore the latter, they are not a good use of my time.


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13 Aug 2018, 10:20 pm

Joe90 wrote:
All the OP does is repeat himself over and over in his posts, getting us to believe that we're all better than "them", all because of some bad personal experiences he's encountered. He's just another one of those "us vs them" Aspies. :roll:

It's actually starting to offend me, because I have a large family of (mostly) NTs and my colleagues are NTs, plus my boyfriend is NT and so is his family, and a lot of friends and other people I know are NTs.
And don't try the "oh you think they like you but they actually don't because they are all fakers" thing on me because it ain't gonna work. I know my own life, thank you.

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Yup.

There are people at WP who are learning and growing, and people who are stuck in a rut and never going to change. I've learned to just ignore the latter, they are not a good use of my time.

I agree with both of you. I mean, why waste your time on the incorrigible (i.e. the OP) when you can do even slightly more productive things like watch grass grow? :lol:

Okay, sorry. That was a cruel one.


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15 Aug 2018, 11:35 am

Also I don't know why the OP always adds in brackets "non-autistics/Asperger people" when mentioning NTs. Yeah, as if a person with severe learning disabilities and very low IQ who requires 24-hour care because they can't function by themselves are neurotypicals. :roll:

The OP needs to be educated with a trip to care homes, mental hospitals and MENCAP groups. It's not just autistics that are challenged, there are lots of other neurological disorders that can affect a person's social performance even though it's not the same as autism.


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15 Aug 2018, 10:11 pm

Not all NTs are like that. My sister's typical and she's a very nice person. All of her friends are nice as well. They're all Sweet Peas in my eyes.


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20 Aug 2018, 11:38 pm

Please get some therapy to fix your deluded way of thinking.

2 of my close friends are NT and are nothing like what you claim "all NT's are like"! To be completely and brutally honest, it's no wonder why nobody wants to be in your company, be they autistic or NT. I certainly wouldn't.



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Stardust Parade wrote:
Please get some therapy to fix your deluded way of thinking.

2 of my close friends are NT and are nothing like what you claim "all NT's are like"! To be completely and brutally honest, it's no wonder why nobody wants to be in your company, be they autistic or NT. I certainly wouldn't.


Well said!! !


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