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13 Apr 2019, 12:52 am

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You just completely ignored what I wrote. Parliament had already voted to leave without a deal!! ! ! ! !


I ignored it as it was factually incorrect. They have not voted to do that. They voted against no deal in parliament, same as they voted against revoking A50 and against a 2nd referendum.


They voted to leave with or without a deal on the 29th of March. It was enshrined in British law but International Law was used by May to stop us leaving. Which is absurd as it was International Law that Assange had the right to asylum. None of those votes changed British Law. You are clueless.


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13 Apr 2019, 12:57 am

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Conspiracy theory versus ineptitude... now let me see... which one should I go with.

The winner is... ineptitude.

My theory about conspiracy theories is:

1) Our political overlords/ruling elite are too damn stupid to come up with all of this stuff
2) Even if they were clever enough, they're too damn arrogant to believe that it even needs covering up


Yeah bit like the Iraq war was a 'mistske'. It's funny that May's rat Robins was heard drunk in a bar in Europe boasting that we wouldn't leave on the 29th and she'd just try to blackmail her deal through.


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13 Apr 2019, 1:17 am

JohnPowell wrote:
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You just completely ignored what I wrote. Parliament had already voted to leave without a deal!! ! ! ! !


I ignored it as it was factually incorrect. They have not voted to do that. They voted against no deal in parliament, same as they voted against revoking A50 and against a 2nd referendum.


They voted to leave with or without a deal on the 29th of March. It was enshrined in British law but International Law was used by May to stop us leaving. Which is absurd as it was International Law that Assange had the right to asylum. None of those votes changed British Law.


Parliament simply voted to trigger article 50 which starts the 'notice period' for a country to leave. That period is initially set at 2 years but, as in most areas of life, that is actually a negotiable length of time. It can be shortened if requested it can be extended too if all parties agree, as we have seen in the UK's case.

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You are clueless.


Aaaaand the standard John Powell insults come out to try and derail yet another thread. Have a day off mate.



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13 Apr 2019, 9:00 am

Again, this isn't an Orwell novel. It was written into British law that we were to leave on the 29th of March. May stopped that from happening. The government was the only one capable of stopping it.


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14 Apr 2019, 2:41 am

Because Bill Cash is trying to bring a court case around that it doesn't make it true



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14 Apr 2019, 5:43 pm

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It's funny that May's rat Robins was heard drunk in a bar in Europe boasting that we wouldn't leave on the 29th and she'd just try to blackmail her deal through.

Point of order: Robbins is a civil servant. He is not an ideologue and has no loyalty to Theresa May, he advises the government of the day and tries to implement their policies as best he can.



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16 Apr 2019, 1:51 pm

The_Walrus wrote:
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It's funny that May's rat Robins was heard drunk in a bar in Europe boasting that we wouldn't leave on the 29th and she'd just try to blackmail her deal through.

Point of order: Robbins is a civil servant. He is not an ideologue and has no loyalty to Theresa May, he advises the government of the day and tries to implement their policies as best he can.


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16 Apr 2019, 1:55 pm

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Because Bill Cash is trying to bring a court case around that it doesn't make it true


It's a fact. The government used International Law to override British law. A few weeks before they went against International Law to remove a journalist with the police from his place of asylum. The country is finished. It is a Soviet like hell hole.


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16 Apr 2019, 2:36 pm

JohnPowell wrote:
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Because Bill Cash is trying to bring a court case around that it doesn't make it true


It's a fact. The government used International Law to override British law. A few weeks before they went against International Law to remove a journalist with the police from his place of asylum. The country is finished. It is a Soviet like hell hole.

Assange was effectively deported by Ecuador to face justice for crimes he has committed. As he is not at risk of persecution on the grounds of race, religion, nationality, membership of a particular social group or political opinion in the UK, there is nothing that breaks international law in Ecuador's decision to deport him. The law must apply equally to everyone - rich criminals like Assange shouldn't be able to escape justice by falsely claiming asylum.

Hopefully he spends a few years in Swedish prison before the statute of limitations expires on his rape.



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16 Apr 2019, 4:12 pm

Firstly he has committed no crime. He seems to be on the spectrum to be honest. But it doesn't matter, he's an innocent man and a journalist who is being kicked away for exposing mass murder, torture and corruption.
It 100% breaks International Law as the ICC ruled in Assange's favour that he had the right to safe passage. Don't support fascism.
He's not a criminal!! !! ! Where's the punishment for those responsible for ordering the mass murder of Iraqi civilians including two Reuters journalists? The punishment for every journalist who pushed the lies about Iraq that led to a million deaths?

The rape case is a bogus pile of tripe. His enemies have killed hundreds of thousands of women.


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17 Apr 2019, 2:00 am

JohnPowell wrote:
The country is finished. It is a Soviet like hell hole.


stop being so hysterical about things



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17 Apr 2019, 2:02 am

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It's funny that May's rat Robins was heard drunk in a bar in Europe boasting that we wouldn't leave on the 29th and she'd just try to blackmail her deal through.


sounds like someone is just falling for pretty basic 'msm' tricks there



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17 Apr 2019, 7:29 am

JohnPowell wrote:
Firstly he has committed no crime. He seems to be on the spectrum to be honest. But it doesn't matter, he's an innocent man and a journalist who is being kicked away for exposing mass murder, torture and corruption.
It 100% breaks International Law as the ICC ruled in Assange's favour that he had the right to safe passage. Don't support fascism.
He's not a criminal!! ! ! ! Where's the punishment for those responsible for ordering the mass murder of Iraqi civilians including two Reuters journalists? The punishment for every journalist who pushed the lies about Iraq that led to a million deaths?

The rape case is a bogus pile of tripe. His enemies have killed hundreds of thousands of women.

People can be great in one area of their life and complete shits in another. He should be extradited to Sweden to

face the rape allegations. It's for Sweden to then decide whether to extradite him after his trial to the US, but I

think he has a good case for fighting it.


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17 Apr 2019, 10:27 am

Biscuitman wrote:
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The country is finished. It is a Soviet like hell hole.


stop being so hysterical about things


Blame your own ignorance if you don't understand. Soviet journalists visited the US in the 80's and their spokesman said that on every TV station and in every newspaper the opinion on the main issue is exactly the same. He said "if we want that at home we have to put journalists in the Gulag or even rip their fingernails out. What's the secret?! !".

Our media has gone even beyond that. There is less free speech and we are now locking up journalists for exposing hideous crimes. They all cheer on war and slander anyone with a different narrative.


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17 Apr 2019, 10:27 am

Biscuitman wrote:
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It's funny that May's rat Robins was heard drunk in a bar in Europe boasting that we wouldn't leave on the 29th and she'd just try to blackmail her deal through.


sounds like someone is just falling for pretty basic 'msm' tricks there


Oh the IRONY :lol:


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