What's the political climate like in the UK right now?

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12 Oct 2019, 1:37 am

Talks entering the final phase as there has been some give from the UK. It's not confirmed what that is but it is widely speculated that with time running out Johnson has given in on the backstop and gone back on what he repeatedly said he would never do - amend the backstop to make it NI only. It's the situation the ERG have called a 'betrayal' in the past yet now may well fall in line and vote for it as power is more important than anything, and time is running out for them.

If all the speculation is correct then we are back to having May's WA but just with a slight tweak on the backstop. Nigel sounds like he is fuming.

This still has to pass the HoC, but if the ERG fall in line, and the DUP take yet another bank transfer to vote for what the Tories want, then with the 'any deal' Labour MP's I think it could pass. Might be pretty close though.



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15 Oct 2019, 1:43 pm

Lots of faux drama around with MP's pretending they are working tirelessly into the small hours on the rehashed May deal today. :lol:

Agreement needs to be tonight so that Euro leaders can see it tomorrow, debate it at euro parliament on Thursday, vote for it on friday and if they vote to agree to it then our HoC vote would be on saturday.

ERG sounding like they will vote for it (Mogg said he may end up with egg on his face and eating his own words). Arlene not sounding keen, though she generally does that until she gets the right cash offer.



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15 Oct 2019, 2:08 pm

Johnson is just May on steroids.


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15 Oct 2019, 2:55 pm

If all the reports are correct on what Johnson is asking for, then he has just asked for the deal the EU offered us as their very first offer back in Feb 2018.

Still, I look forward to the Telegraph telling us what a genius he is and how he has saved Britain :lol:



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15 Oct 2019, 3:06 pm

The Canada + free trade deal?


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15 Oct 2019, 3:21 pm

It's close to May's deal but with a change to backstop so it covers NI instead of all of UK. It's the deal we were offered at the start and May said it was 'so bad that no British PM could accept it'



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15 Oct 2019, 4:39 pm

Same as Boris saying May's deal would leave us a slave state and then supporting it.


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17 Oct 2019, 6:04 am

Agreement reached as expected between UK and EU negotiators. EU Parliament need to vote it through by the end of tomorrow and then saturday is all about the HoC. DUO currently saying they won't support it, which would make it hard to get through, but they are flakey as anything and can change their mind like the changing of the wind, if the £££ is correct

Labour whipping for a 2nd referendum amendment. could be explosive if it gets through



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17 Oct 2019, 8:27 am

How many years till the UK becomes a European equivalent of a banana republic ?


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09 Sep 2020, 12:03 pm

Our PM has confirmed that the UK Govt plans to break international law by reneging on a legal agreement with the countries largest trading block, an agreement he was in charge of and he championed to the nation, and he is doing this all because he now says he didnt have time to read it properly, even though he decided to remove the agreement reading time, and his fellow MP's cheered that, because he had to get the deal approved by a certain date, a date that was arbitrary and he had just picked out of the air.



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09 Sep 2020, 12:24 pm

Biscuitman wrote:
Our PM has confirmed that the UK Govt plans to break international law by reneging on a legal agreement with the countries largest trading block, an agreement he was in charge of and he championed to the nation, and he is doing this all because he now says he didnt have time to read it properly, even though he decided to remove the agreement reading time, and his fellow MP's cheered that, because he had to get the deal approved by a certain date, a date that was arbitrary and he had just picked out of the air.


Speaking as somebody from outside the country, what will that mean for the UK?


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09 Sep 2020, 1:02 pm

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Biscuitman wrote:
Our PM has confirmed that the UK Govt plans to break international law by reneging on a legal agreement with the countries largest trading block, an agreement he was in charge of and he championed to the nation, and he is doing this all because he now says he didnt have time to read it properly, even though he decided to remove the agreement reading time, and his fellow MP's cheered that, because he had to get the deal approved by a certain date, a date that was arbitrary and he had just picked out of the air.


Speaking as somebody from outside the country, what will that mean for the UK?


We will have to wait and see tbh. They are nearing the end of Brexit negotiations, which by pretty much all reports have gone very badly, and now he says they are willing to bring in new domestic law which cancels parts of of the Withdrawal Agreement, the agreement which is the basis for our exiting the EU. It's hard to even see an angle where this is just a threat during tough negotiations, as going ahead with it is most damaging to the UK.

Whatever happens with this, he has now publicly stated he is happy to break international law, his word is worth nothing and agreements can just be ripped up months after signing them, and all of this right as we set out to agree new trade agreements with many countries around the world.



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09 Sep 2020, 1:08 pm

Biscuitman wrote:
DeathEmperor413 wrote:
Biscuitman wrote:
Our PM has confirmed that the UK Govt plans to break international law by reneging on a legal agreement with the countries largest trading block, an agreement he was in charge of and he championed to the nation, and he is doing this all because he now says he didnt have time to read it properly, even though he decided to remove the agreement reading time, and his fellow MP's cheered that, because he had to get the deal approved by a certain date, a date that was arbitrary and he had just picked out of the air.


Speaking as somebody from outside the country, what will that mean for the UK?


We will have to wait and see tbh. They are nearing the end of Brexit negotiations, which by pretty much all reports have gone very badly, and now he says they are willing to bring in new domestic law which cancels parts of of the Withdrawal Agreement, the agreement which is the basis for our exiting the EU. It's hard to even see an angle where this is just a threat during tough negotiations, as going ahead with it is most damaging to the UK.

Whatever happens with this, he has now publicly stated he is happy to break international law, his word is worth nothing and agreements can just be ripped up months after signing them, and all of this right as we set out to agree new trade agreements with many countries around the world.


That's terrible. Now I understand why people refer to him as Trump's British Twin. :|


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09 Sep 2020, 4:05 pm

On the other hand, part of me has always wanted to live in a rogue state.


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09 Sep 2020, 4:21 pm

Mikah wrote:
On the other hand, part of me has always wanted to live in a rogue state.


Me too! :D


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10 Sep 2020, 1:31 pm

UK Attorney General confirms she is happy for the Government to break the law, even though it is literally her job to stop that from happening.

EU say the trust between the 2 negotiating sides is now damaged.