What do you as Autistics think about Affirmative Action

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I wan't to know?

Equality's an abstract term, doesn't really exist; can't actually ever achieve it.

But if you want a more balanced and fair society based on opportunity and inclusion, you have to work for it... As a society. Not the fake affirmative action that imagines unqualified people being hired on their minority status(that's not a reality) but surely this thread can and may veer that direction quickly

larger organizations / pubic organizations need diversity or they're targets to be sued for racial/gender discrimination

Because of embedded discrimination, certain groups of people aren't given a fair shake, and so the government needs to step in to equalize things so everyone can enjoy the promise of America.

Equality of opportunity can never guarantee equality of result.
An opportunity given to some one without merit robs another of an earned opportunity.

What qualifies an inefficient and bloated beast such as government to become the great equalizer?

I feel it was needed in generations past for obvious historical manifestations of racism, discriminatiom. It’s not as needed in this generation.

It’s better, say, when a person is given a place in a prestigious college based on merit, rather than the ethnicity they are members of.

This is an interesting talking point, because it identifies government as a heavily authoritarian controlling entity to be used solely for the purpose of extreme regulation and ignores the true nature of humanity.

Whilst this is a common view, I don't see affirmative action in this way. It's not a bad thing, and it's not always a good thing either. It's just a "thing" that needs to be tamed and controlled, or else it unfairly reaches off to the side of one extreme.

That might might be a more interesting question - in 2018 and going into the 2020's with the ways the world economic structure is changing, what things would we want to emphasize and deemphasize? Also will the structures its meant to grapple with still remain in a way that it can be levered?

I'm not sure the balance of institutional power is quite the same, the job market is clearly headed toward major upheavals, education is headed for similar tumult, and while work and education get further out of touch with our needs its hard to say what ideas of sane or normal in those areas are even available to better map affirmative action to. It seems like its an institutional map, like a lot of others, that are just hanging out on standby to see whether it's still standing or in the rubble with what it was attached to when the problems in the private economic sector, education, and state public sectors start coming in full speed.

If it is a quota system I do not like it. Two wrongs do not make a right.

If you have two similarly qualified candidates it is ok to pick the one who came from a worse background, who has demonstrated toughness by seemingly overcoming more.

Qualifications should be the most important thing in any hiring decision, not hiring a token people or hiring people just so you can put pictures of diverse people on your website to seem up to date.

It sucks.

It is a racist and sexist system because it assumes minorities and women are not capable of obtaining education, employment, and housing on intrinsic merit alone. It also gives preference in education, employment, and housing to minorities and women when all merit-based considerations are on par with white males seeking education, employment, and housing in the same markets.

Do you think Autistics like us would benefit off of it?

In attaining education, employment, and housing? Maybe, maybe not.

In maintaining access to education, employment, and housing? No. THAT is up to the individual.

But what if the most qualified is denied opportunity simply because of the color of his or her skin?

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Two things with that: 1) it was a realistic problem in the 80's, much less so today 2) If the most qualified gets turned away by company A and company B picks them up, company B is more set to PWN company A.

We may want to perhaps worry less about whether the most competent will be racially discriminated against and more about how more people, willing to be responsible and organized, can have some hope of making ends meet regardless of race. When the organized and responsible person with a 100 median IQ of any color can't make ends meet - we're headed for disaster.

In certain areas of the US economy, discrimination on the basis of race or ethnicity still obviously exists.

Should racial and gender equality have been addressed by government? Do you say so because you think the US would have done much better in affecting racial and gender equality without it or something similar?

Does the current government even have a responsibility to be responsive to the concerns of marginalized communities?