Will I always be told "I have a boyfriend."?

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03 Oct 2018, 2:28 pm

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I'm content with being alone until the right person comes along, but I can understand how it could be very stressful for someone that has never dated or never dated much. Yeah, it does suck the older you get. I sometimes look back on my life and wonder what things might have been like had I done some things differently in past relationships, and think about how much easier it was to meet people when I was younger, but I don't dwell on it. Dating has changed a lot since I last put in the effort to do it. I know what things I could do to make it easier for myself, but I'm not about to compromise my beliefs in order to do so, I'm looking for quality over quanity. There seems to be a lot of lonely people on here, males and females. Do any of them ever take a chance and message each other? I know that finding someone on this site in a specific town is unlikely but even an online relationship can help you build the social skills needed for dating. I guess finding someone that is up for a long distance relationship can be kind of difficult now too with the way things have changed. It really isn't that bad as long as you can come up with things to do and talk about, it actually requires one to form a meaningful relationship, which many people can take for granted offline.


I would be able to handle being single better if my family and the people they associate with didn't shove their relationships in my face. There actually was a time I told others I wanted to improve myself before getting into a relationship was and the response was "But if you take too long, you won't be young anymore!" and my older brother was constantly boasting to me about how many "b*****s" he got while following the crowd when I told him I wanted to walk my own path.

Sometimes—not ALWAYS, but sometimes—the crowd happens to be right. I believe in walking my own path. It happens to intersect with the crowd sometimes, but it is MY path. I’d be lying if I told you my path didn’t come at a cost. There’s a price to be paid for going your own way. The question is whether or not it was worth it.

Some would say it’s always worth it. While you’re working at the library, go check out The Fountainhead.

I guess because we’re different, the way we’re raising our children makes them really stand out at school. My oldest two are not necessarily the popular kids. But I’m teaching my daughter how to navigate politics so she can spin her uniqueness in into something more influential. My oldest isn’t really cut out for school, and he’s in a class full of girls. So I’m teaching him about how to navigate the sea of hormones that is 6th grade. He is musically very gifted, so I’m hoping to steer him in a direction that will see him more successful than I ever was.

My youngest...well, he’s unique and well-liked.

There are ways of celebrating and exploiting uniqueness, going our own way while persuading the crowd to follow us rather than the other way around. Believe me. In hindsight, I see that following the crowd would have been easier...

...but then again...I do like the life I have. So maybe it was worth it after all.



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03 Oct 2018, 6:21 pm

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I just see relationships wherever I go and it makes me feel the pain of missing out because I am usually alone. It hurts especially when I am at a music show and I see a couple who both enjoy the band; I've even seen some couples make out or find places to have sex at the show. My older brother was constantly dating girls and bringing them home while my parents refused to let me date. They even angrily shouted at me "You don't need a girlfriend!" and other demeaning things while they constantly cheated on each other until they divorced and have gone through multiple marriages throughout their lives.

Everyone tells me to stop looking for a girlfriend but yet it's ok for them to pursue relationships.



We have talked before and I see other people giving you good advice that you refuse to take instead you continue focusing on the misery, this will get you nowhere. At this point it seems as though you enjoy being miserable as it seems easier than to take any responsibility. Other people take responsibility for their life and their own happiness and have a more positive and relaxed attitude and their focus on more important things even if they date at the same time dating is not the only thing in the entire world they care about and they don't sit in a corner being upset when dating does not work out instead they go on with the other things they do with their life and that way they both look more attractive as they're not desperate and they live a happier life. Some even only manage to make female friends for many years but such friendships often with time evolve into a relationships and up until that happens you've had a great friend to form many good memories and have fun with.

Love always happens out of the blue, if you force love it will most likely not happen. You don't just force it, you're desperate for it and care about nothing else to the point of even attending college just for the sake of meeting a woman. :roll:

You also sound incredibly shallow with saying not many attractive women are left. Are you the hottest man in the world? I highly doubt it. Being shallow will make it even more difficult for you to ever find a woman.

Start taking some responsibility and don't be so obesessed with dating. Attend classes for the sake of learning and evolving as a human being and put your focus on that. If you choose to go on as you have before even though you know that is not leading you anywhere then you can't exactly be miserable if things go on as they always have. You should know at your age and many years of doing the same thing that it's a road and a mindset that's leading you nowhere. Everyone has to take responsibility and make something out of their life on their own before things like love can happen to them, you're not special even though you seem to wanna think so.


I don't enjoy being depressed. It makes me feel sick and I live in a culture that thinks depression is simply a state of mind. I've been told to "Quit being a p****!" or to "snap the f**k out of it" by people who are in denial of their own depressed feelings.

I didn't just attend college to look for a girlfriend. I took some classes I thought were interesting and maybe would show me what my niche in life was. Unfortunately, my grades were below average and that discouraged me heavily.

I've never proclaimed to be the hottest man in the world and I am not looking for the hottest women either. I am pretty sure you have a type or types of men you find attractive. You sound like you are saying it's bad I have a type so that is coming off as hypocritical to me.


I agree with superaliengirl. She has a lot of good advice. You need to start taking responsibility for yourself. If you don't take responsibility for yourself, you're going to find yourself exactly where you are now, in five years. I also didn't notice her telling you to stop being a p**** and snap the bleep out of it. People here are trying to help you, but you keep twisting their words around. We're trying to help you but it's hard when you take things personally.


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03 Oct 2018, 8:15 pm

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I just see relationships wherever I go and it makes me feel the pain of missing out because I am usually alone. It hurts especially when I am at a music show and I see a couple who both enjoy the band; I've even seen some couples make out or find places to have sex at the show. My older brother was constantly dating girls and bringing them home while my parents refused to let me date. They even angrily shouted at me "You don't need a girlfriend!" and other demeaning things while they constantly cheated on each other until they divorced and have gone through multiple marriages throughout their lives.

Everyone tells me to stop looking for a girlfriend but yet it's ok for them to pursue relationships.



We have talked before and I see other people giving you good advice that you refuse to take instead you continue focusing on the misery, this will get you nowhere. At this point it seems as though you enjoy being miserable as it seems easier than to take any responsibility. Other people take responsibility for their life and their own happiness and have a more positive and relaxed attitude and their focus on more important things even if they date at the same time dating is not the only thing in the entire world they care about and they don't sit in a corner being upset when dating does not work out instead they go on with the other things they do with their life and that way they both look more attractive as they're not desperate and they live a happier life. Some even only manage to make female friends for many years but such friendships often with time evolve into a relationships and up until that happens you've had a great friend to form many good memories and have fun with.

Love always happens out of the blue, if you force love it will most likely not happen. You don't just force it, you're desperate for it and care about nothing else to the point of even attending college just for the sake of meeting a woman. :roll:

You also sound incredibly shallow with saying not many attractive women are left. Are you the hottest man in the world? I highly doubt it. Being shallow will make it even more difficult for you to ever find a woman.

Start taking some responsibility and don't be so obesessed with dating. Attend classes for the sake of learning and evolving as a human being and put your focus on that. If you choose to go on as you have before even though you know that is not leading you anywhere then you can't exactly be miserable if things go on as they always have. You should know at your age and many years of doing the same thing that it's a road and a mindset that's leading you nowhere. Everyone has to take responsibility and make something out of their life on their own before things like love can happen to them, you're not special even though you seem to wanna think so.


I don't enjoy being depressed. It makes me feel sick and I live in a culture that thinks depression is simply a state of mind. I've been told to "Quit being a p****!" or to "snap the f**k out of it" by people who are in denial of their own depressed feelings.

I didn't just attend college to look for a girlfriend. I took some classes I thought were interesting and maybe would show me what my niche in life was. Unfortunately, my grades were below average and that discouraged me heavily.

I've never proclaimed to be the hottest man in the world and I am not looking for the hottest women either. I am pretty sure you have a type or types of men you find attractive. You sound like you are saying it's bad I have a type so that is coming off as hypocritical to me.


I agree with superaliengirl. She has a lot of good advice. You need to start taking responsibility for yourself. If you don't take responsibility for yourself, you're going to find yourself exactly where you are now, in five years. I also didn't notice her telling you to stop being a p**** and snap the bleep out of it. People here are trying to help you, but you keep twisting their words around. We're trying to help you but it's hard when you take things personally.


Read the bolded part. I am not twisting superaliengirl's words. The context of my message was about how the people in the culture I live in are often depressed themselves but are in denial about it and how they treat me poorly.



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03 Oct 2018, 10:48 pm

Sorry. I apologize.


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04 Oct 2018, 11:42 am

If I could just find the right path, I'd be able to come to terms with my past.



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04 Oct 2018, 11:49 am

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If I could just find the right path, I'd be able to come to terms with my past.
The right path is "F*** the Past!"

The past is over. What happens in the present is all that matters.


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04 Oct 2018, 1:02 pm

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If I could just find the right path, I'd be able to come to terms with my past.
The right path is "F*** the Past!"

The past is over. What happens in the present is all that matters.


I never really learned how to be present because I was always told to "let go and let God" which is one of the most harmful things you can tell someone in their developmental years. People I know still insist to me God has a "plan" for me even when I tell them I no longer worship God.



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04 Oct 2018, 1:08 pm

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If I could just find the right path, I'd be able to come to terms with my past.
The right path is "F*** the Past!" The past is over. What happens in the present is all that matters.
I never really learned how to be present because I was always told to "let go and let God" which is one of the most harmful things you can tell someone in their developmental years. People I know still insist to me God has a "plan" for me even when I tell them I no longer worship God.
Now you're focusing on what other people say and think. Forget them. They don't matter. YOU do! Only you can change your life, so stop worrying about the past, stop worrying about what others say, and stop over-thinking your situation! Just follow the advice that Bea and I have given you, and things will get better -- not today, and maybe not tomorrow, but they will get better.

It's all up to YOU.


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04 Oct 2018, 6:18 pm

Whenever my older brother wanted a girlfriend, he could always go out and come home with one. I feel like everyone except me can achieve their goals on the day they make them while I can not.



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05 Oct 2018, 4:22 am

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Whenever my older brother wanted a girlfriend, he could always go out and come home with one. I feel like everyone except me can achieve their goals on the day they make them while I can not.


If it makes you feel any better, I'm about as impressive to the ladies as a baked potato. I can con my manager into thinking I'm a pillar of this place when I barely even know what I'm doing, but I can't seem to get even the tiniest bit of attention from women.



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05 Oct 2018, 2:16 pm

Women run from me like the plague. I guess I am too creepy. I love the song creep by Radiohead it makes me feel like being a creep ain't so bad.



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Women run from me like the plague. I guess I am too creepy. I love the song creep by Radiohead it makes me feel like being a creep ain't so bad.


I tried to get into Radiohead but I couldn't.

I don't see women running away from me. They tend to either ignore me or look uninterested when I try talking to them.



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06 Oct 2018, 2:09 am

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Whenever my older brother wanted a girlfriend, he could always go out and come home with one. I feel like everyone except me can achieve their goals on the day they make them while I can not.


If it makes you feel any better, I'm about as impressive to the ladies as a baked potato. I can con my manager into thinking I'm a pillar of this place when I barely even know what I'm doing, but I can't seem to get even the tiniest bit of attention from women.



Ever tried to talk to completely different demographics of women? Like totally different ethnicities and cultures.

If you are still trying with the same demographic you tried with before your whole
life then you’re wasting your time. Remember my regional tinder experiment? There are whole demographics where one’s looks is totally pariah (zero match out of 100) while for others the same one can be seen as a sex god (70 matches out 100).

Ie. In Germany, Australia, and Turkey I got zero matches - in my own country I almost always get matched with Filipinas, Thais and Indonesians very very rarely with a local; in some other mixed places like in some US states and Canada I only got matched with Asians, Latinas and Africans- in Asian countries I got 70 or 60 of 100 in each, in Morroco I got the same (~70/100) despite them thinking I was Moroccan too; and not only that but most initiated the chat too and tried hard to get to know me. This just to give you an idea how crazily different one’s attractiveness level varies from one community to another; and this seems to be like homogenous “blocks”: either the majority of the whole one community finds you attractive or it doesn’t.

You may be a baked potato to your community, so try a different one.



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06 Oct 2018, 2:48 am

I am thinking I need to leave this forum again and this time for good. I am losing support and I can't stand seeing certain forum posters anymore. Alliekit also isn't coming back and I think I will only be remembered as the person who posted about his struggles but he could never overcome them.



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06 Oct 2018, 2:53 am

Fnord wrote:
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If I could just find the right path, I'd be able to come to terms with my past.
The right path is "F*** the Past!" The past is over. What happens in the present is all that matters.
I never really learned how to be present because I was always told to "let go and let God" which is one of the most harmful things you can tell someone in their developmental years. People I know still insist to me God has a "plan" for me even when I tell them I no longer worship God.
Now you're focusing on what other people say and think. Forget them. They don't matter. YOU do! Only you can change your life, so stop worrying about the past, stop worrying about what others say, and stop over-thinking your situation! Just follow the advice that Bea and I have given you, and things will get better -- not today, and maybe not tomorrow, but they will get better.

It's all up to YOU.


Yes. Markins, you can't change the world, you can only change how you react to it an interact with it. Don't let it bulldozer over you. Take charge of your own life. Its no ones business, but your own.



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06 Oct 2018, 7:07 am

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I am thinking I need to leave this forum again and this time for good. I am losing support and I can't stand seeing certain forum posters anymore. Alliekit also isn't coming back and I think I will only be remembered as the person who posted about his struggles but he could never overcome them.

Something to think about... I think you should stay, though.

Something I don’t mention that often are my current struggles. I’ve mentioned before that I’m having a hard time in the music biz right now. But it’s not something I dwell on. I do have problems in my marriage, but I don’t really talk about it much.

You find that when things are going well, it only takes ONE tiny little thing to ruin your day. Why is that? So I quit giving voice to those problems. If my wife doesn’t feel like being intimate with me, I scratch her back and give her a massage. Maybe I don’t get what I want, but at least I’m not so repulsive she won’t let me put my hands on her at all. My career sucks right now, but so what? I have no control over that. So I focus on the small victories. I’ve got a clarinet and a flute student that show some crazy potential. I’m premiering a clarinet duet with a friend of mine at a church I DON’T regularly attend. I’m coming down with plantar fasciitis and shin splints and can’t afford new shoes yet, plus my wife didn’t train yesterday because of a mild knee injury. So freakin what? I focused on adjusting my gait and posture, mostly avoided stressing my shins by moving some of my weight to my knees, and got through a 5 mile pace run not nearly as worn out as I expected. In fact, by my next pace run I might be able to push myself a little harder.

People want to say offensive things like don’t be a [cat] and pull yourself up by your bootstraps and it’s not very helpful. I think they say those things because their own struggles are no different than yours or mine. I think probably the majority of folks really are depressed and don’t admit it. And I think that’s because it doesn’t do any good to admit it. If everyone is depressed, the last thing they want to hear is how bad someone else’s life is. People get excited over good news. And the happiest people out there aren’t overly concerned with the bad things that happen. If they have control over it, they fix it and move on with life. If not, what difference does it really make, anyway? So they move on with life.

You’ve got a lot of good things going for you. You always get our attention. That should count for something. So just work on keeping on the bright side of life. That would be a good start.