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23 Feb 2019, 6:33 pm

I didn't know Brontë had been to Brussels - or even outside of Yorkshire, to be honest. I can certainly see the German influence, though. There's something somehow German about such a brooding, bitter character as Heathcliff. He could quite well have been a character from a work by Goethe.



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23 Feb 2019, 6:59 pm

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I didn't know Brontë had been to Brussels - or even outside of Yorkshire, to be honest. I can certainly see the German influence, though. There's something somehow German about such a brooding, bitter character as Heathcliff. He could quite well have been a character from a work by Goethe.


I intended to say that Emily admired Goethe as well. Forgive my omission. She studied in Brussels with Charlotte for approximately a year (1842-1843), during which time her professor Constantin Heger remarked:

She should have been a man – a great navigator. Her powerful reason would have deduced new spheres of discovery from the knowledge of the old, and her strong imperious will would never have been daunted by opposition or difficulty, never have given way but with life. She had a head for logic, and a capability of argument unusual in a man and rarer indeed in a woman... impairing this gift was her stubborn tenacity of will which rendered her obtuse to all reasoning where her own wishes, or her own sense of right, was concerned.

Emily was also an accomplished musician / pianist, and Wuthering Heights is said to have a melodic rhythm which cannot be replicated in any other language.

Here are two books I've read which you may enjoy.


https://yalebooks.yale.edu/book/9780300 ... ian-essays

https://www.bronte.org.uk/bronte-shop/r ... -her-music



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23 Feb 2019, 7:15 pm

I think I read that quote the first time I read Wuthering Heights (2013). I'll try to read a little more by/about the Brontës, but for now I have to return to reading what remains of the Harvard list.



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23 Feb 2019, 7:20 pm

Prometheus18 wrote:
I think I read that quote the first time I read Wuthering Heights (2013). I'll try to read a little more by/about the Brontës, but for now I have to return to reading what remains of the Harvard list.


Of course! Thanks for reading and contributing, though! I know how it is to have a reading list. I'm behind on my own.



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23 Feb 2019, 7:25 pm

William Blake was quite “countercultural,” too.....as were most of the Romantics.

The Brontë sisters are justly famous for going against the Victorian grain.....with Victorian elegance.



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23 Feb 2019, 7:33 pm

And thank you for the thread; I like to have my views changed despite being somewhat stubborn by nature. I still view Wuthering Heights as an immoral (amoral?) novel, and yet somehow, that doesn't matter anymore. It still succeeded in moving me.

Mr Kortie:

I didn't deny that there were other countercultural writers (of course there are) only that Wuthering Heights occupies a unique place in the history of English counterculture.



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26 Feb 2019, 5:28 pm

What's always worked for me with Wuthering Heights is that it's told from the perspective of the housekeeper. I don't know why, but it makes the romance more powerful.


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10 Oct 2019, 10:43 am

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It's the time of year again, folks. The world is Wuthering, which brings me to great Heights!

If anyone is interested in joining my reading group, please let me know. :skull: :twisted: :skull:



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10 Oct 2019, 10:48 am

I still can't find my 1975 paperback copy.

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10 Oct 2019, 11:01 am

DeepHour wrote:
I still can't find my 1975 paperback copy.

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I can send you one of my .... (many) (blushes) copies? :roll:
It's probably quite inexpensive on Amazon / EBay as well, if you don't want to venture to a library.

https://www.gutenberg.org/files/768/768-h/768-h.htm

If you like reading online, there's always Gutenberg, too. I just discovered that Gutenberg used the second edition (butchered by Charlotte after Emily's death), but it's better than nothing I suppose!



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10 Oct 2019, 10:56 pm

I remember reading this and discussing our thoughts last year! (i think?) ıt was so much fun and and reminded me why i loved reading when i was a child.
I wish i could reread now but with how little free time i have it seems to be impossible.



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10 Oct 2019, 11:15 pm

AprilR wrote:
I remember reading this and discussing our thoughts last year! (i think?) ıt was so much fun and and reminded me why i loved reading when i was a child.
I wish i could reread now but with how little free time i have it seems to be impossible.


Awww, thanks April! I don't expect that anyone new will want to read with me this time, but I'm reading soon so I thought I'd ask. I'd love to have a Villette group because the protagonist is so deeply ... autistic? ... but it's a very lengthy, cerebral book which some people find hard to read. I think it's Charlotte's best.

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11 Oct 2019, 4:19 am

Great documentary about the Brontë family and the beautiful countryside they grew up in:

Walking Through History Series 4 Episode 1: Brontë Country



Haven't read any of their works myself though.



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11 Oct 2019, 7:42 am

IsabellaLinton wrote:
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It's the time of year again, folks. The world is Wuthering, which brings me to great Heights!

If anyone is interested in joining my reading group, please let me know. :skull: :twisted: :skull:

Wuthering Heights is one of my all-time favourite books! :heart: Can I join? :D
Have you heard of Ponden Hall in Yorkshire? The Bronte's used to go there to use the Heatons library, and it's supposed to have been an inspiration to Emily Bronte's Wuthering Heights. It's now a B&B. :)



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11 Oct 2019, 7:51 am

Hello and of course you may join!! !

Ponden Hall and the Heatons are certainly reputed to be a possible inspiration for the book. I think I mentioned it last year in some of our group posts. Ironically, I was just looking at pictures of the box bed yesterday.

When would you want to start reading?