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11 Oct 2018, 11:22 am

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An example I often use in Reference to what Science Measures Versus what Art Measures is that Even Rock Star of
Science, Astro Physicist, Neil deGrasse Tyson, Readily Admits that the Inner Universe of our Human Being is
Relatively Uncharted NOT Measured territory Versus the Observable Empirically Measurable Universe
in Material Reductionist Ways outside of us. He even Admitted to Katy Perry that Her grasp
of the Inner Universe of Being Human is Much Larger than His as that relates to what
she can provide of Her Inner Universe and that of other Artists who Provide Works
of Art to Express what otherwise might not be experienced More of the Human Emotional
and Sensory Experiences of Life if not for the Music and other Arts all Artists Bring to Enhancing
our Subjective Experiences of Life that often Defy what Science says about the overall topic of Life.

One Example is the Power of the Placebo Effect that is real and all about the Vague Word and Very Real
Essence of Human Belief. When that Force is Large enough and yes, Real Enough, what otherwise that is
Defined by Medical Science as Incurable Disease is on the Record of going into Unexplainable Remission at
the Measure of Science. The Tool of Science is a rather simple one; just a number of steps from Hypothesis
to be Measured and Repeated and Confirmed by other unrelated Scientists and it is restricted to what may be
Observed Empirically so and Measured in a way that can and will be replicated and Confirmed by other Scientists.

Human Consciousness does not Comply with Measures of Science. In Fact, Scientists who use the Scientific Method
can measure some Material Reductionist Parts of how the Brain Works but the Synergy of how we Navigate our LIfe's
Experience in Broad Scope of Conscious and Sub-Conscious Mind is better Relegated to the Expression of Art than
any tiny Small View of Scientific Method. In other Words, Science has the Parts, the Notes, the Letters, the Numbers
for Metaphor; whereas, the Human Soul as Metaphor is the Symphony for the Entire Orchestra it Plays of Life
Experience as it is more Advanced than any Scientific Tool can and will Imagine for of course Science is no
Imagination at all as Science is only a Concrete Tool; whereas, the Human Experience in even every
Word we Co-Create is Metaphor at Essence as the Definitions of Words at Essence Change at
the Whim of Human Imagination and The Fruition of Co-Creativity we as a Species of Human
Create in Artful Ways together. In Fact, Social Scientist Jonathan Haidt refers to a Rational Delusion;
as Humans as Modern Neuroscience Shows are controlled by Emotions and Senses in our Older Brains
of Limbic System and Reptile Brain as the Neo-Cortex is actually Servant and not Leader of those two much
Older Brains on the Scale of overall Animal Kingdom Evolution for Basic Survival in Subsistence gaining activities
as well as the Strive for Reproductive Success as in our case is very much Driven by Social Cooperation in Limbic System
Measure of Warm and Fuzzy Holding Hands and Hugging inspired by the Neurohormone Oxytocin that for some folks
doesn't work 'normally' and for those who cannot enjoy this Deep Comfort of Warm and Fuzzy; for all practical intents
and purposes that experience of life is 'Super Natural' to them for it literally does not exist in their Multi-Universe
View within. Our Universes in Reality are those of what we Hold in the Experiential Inner Universe of being
Human in each unique Multi-Universe of what we see in regard to all our feelings and senses now.

Some folks experience a Much Larger Multi-Verse View of Existence; for some the Metaphor is beyond Rainbow Colors
of Flavors, Tastes, Smells, Sounds, Dances and Songs of Life they touch with their Soul Deep Deep down and
Express to others who have enough Context in Experience to relate Mutually and Consensually to their
Multi-UniVerse View of Life. Other Folks Live somewhere within the Realm of Shades of Grey, just out
of the Grasp of the Black Abyss Night of the Soul and so far away from the Depth of Feeling and
Sensing Life that makes a word Like Heaven dull in a response to relate. For those of us now
who have explored life more with Right Brain Metaphor of thinking and feeling and sensing
Life versus Left Brain Metaphor of Collecting words and spitting them back at other
Folks with as close to the same concrete meaning that we can relate as the Multi-Universe
Views of Life in metaphor are for all practical Intents and Purposes now Natural Versus Super-Natural
for those who see life in more Black and White and Shades of Gray Shades of Life Versus Multi-Color Beyond
Rainbow Views. But it's True, Social Scientists Like Jonathan Haidt are starting to Navigate this World that Artists
Have Related to others Receptive to Larger Multi-Universe Views of Life for the Ascendent, Transcendent Altered
Consciousness Views of Life; as I will Link that below for those "Horatio's" who have not explored their much Greater
Epigenetic and Neuroplastic Potentials of Life in unpacking more of their Potential Genetic Material as DNA expressed
thru Appropriate Positive Challenge and Adaptation and Change in Life as it's true we are limited by the Environment of
Learning we are exposed to and what we limit of ourselves too. This Life is one of Sitting in the Cave and Sticking
with the Same Cave Art or moving out into the Light and Creating New Light Art whether there is an Old Cave
Target Audience for it or not as that is what the Right Brain Metaphor of Think and Feel and Sense does;
It Moves out of the Cave into the Light to use more Colors of Imagination and Creativity as that comes
to Fruition of the Art we Make, yes; Ah, but yes, the Challenge is to Articulate that back to those
Still Living in the Cave with the Old Cave Art that might tempt them to walk a few steps
out and then a few steps more until Life becomes a Dance and Song that is never
Felt and Sensed or even Imagined or Thought of Before. How Beautiful
This Great Adventure of Life is when we are no longer Afraid of
Change or how others Experience so much more of Life in Colors than what
We Feel and Sense and Think now. Is it possible? Yes, it is as I have documented my Entire Experience
From Stuck in Left Brain think of Collecting Data and Spitting it back out like a Robot and a Computer
to Heights of Art where i have to Travel Around the Globe to find folks who have the Contextual Experience
of Life to even understand where I Exist on the Spectrum of Art and Creativity now. But only if you See, I can and will;
I understand through History that this is nothing new. You cannot expect to go on an Expedition in Exploration
of Human Potential and expect anyone to follow you there. Some Folks Move out of the Cave and Some folks
are either too Terrified or Apathetic and stay. What I do know and feel and senses is this; I used to
Live in
Hell and now
I live in a new Dimension
of Inner Universe as Multi-Universe
of Human Being that I as an individual
had no idea existed before; and if not for
the Art to even attempt to explain this place
that exists within; I would be otherwise very
Selfish not to do my Best to Show folks this place most definitely
Does Exist; and for all Practical Intents and Purpose although it is very
Natural and Real it is more than Real for all practical Intents and Purposes
for most
folks
and
Supernatural, now, still.

For Just another Quick Example, Research shows that some Autistic Folks have Deficits
in the Functioning of Mirror Neurons in our ability to put ourselves in other People's shoes
as that relates to Basic Human Affective Empathy. Whereas, in other Research, the Studies show
the opposite for another Group Studied where they have Extreme Functioning of Mirror Neurons
where watching someone's Harm get touched is like having your Arm touched as sure if you use a little
imagination, even if you don't have that real Human Potential, you might see how that might be extremely
Pleasurable or Extremely Uncomfortable if around enough Negative Stuff; where a person now might have
to Socially Withdraw themselves; not because they have too little Human Affective Empathy; but because they
Have too much; as the Quintessential Example of a Real Life Empath now; The Same applies to Tactile Sensitivity
too for I as an Individual have such a heightened sense of touch, I cannot stand to touch most Man Made Materials
as such; It's not hard to see how that would limit one's Social Experiences too around Man Made stuff as the Difference
between being able to Sweep a Carpet at Work or it being literally Intolerable to do for this is a kind of Sensory
Empathy too, where even imagining doing it is intolerable too. This Explains a lot about the DSM5 Criteria
And how it clearly states some Autistic Folks are Hypo-Sensitive to the Environment and others are
Hyper-Sensitive to the Sensory environment and how that relates to all Human Senses and
Feelings too.

So yeah; You've seen one Autistic Person and you've seen just one; some may be extremely Empathic
in all the Colors and Flavors of Life as that comes; and others may be almost Numb to the Experience
of the Multi-Universe Views of other Folks now. And it is also true, this Human Potential, overall, is not static
and only innate and inborn; for even Science Shows that Empathy is a Human Intelligence that may be learned
for a much richer experience of Life as well as the Artistic Versus Science Mind Experience and Expression of Life.

Otherwise, it's not likely that I could have remedied my Robot and Computer-like Mind back into the World
of Social Empathic Mind as Expressed in Art as Neil deGrasse Tyson Describes is what Katy Perry does in
Genius-Like Intelligence that he currently has no road to take at this Point in his life. Meh; I come here
as an Anthropology Participant Observer to see how the 'other side' as I did once lives to remind myself
of where I came from; and just how far I've taken my Potential in the last 5 Years and in some small
or yes larger way Help those who are stuck in just Half A Globe of Mind Exploring their way out
to a place
they might
Define as
Heaven one Day
they Master in a Regulation
of Emotions and an Integration
of Senses that Works for them. Free Verse
Poetry in connecting Words Back with Emotions
has worked as a Meditative Free Verse Flow of Life
in Art that takes me more toward the Alpha through Theta
Mind Waves of Life. And also for those who Study this Flow and
Expanded State of Mind and Body Being, the Phrase that is used to
describe it as even Brain Scans can measure it in limited view is "Transient
Hypo-Frontality" where the Neo-Cortex is dampened and the Rest of the Brain
Lights up out of Past and Future Worry Clock Time Illusion of Existence into Open
Ocean View Wave Life. And for those who find an actual Mind and Body Practice in
the continuing Greater Potentials to Master this Expanded Mind and Body Awareness
in our Potential of Being Human; they arise to what is known and felt and sensed to an
"Autotelic" State of Being where they develop the Literal Potential to raise the Levels of all
5 Basic Positive Neurochemicals and Neurohormones at Locus and Focus of Relative Free Will
as the Synergy of that and other related Neuro-Chemicals and Neurons-Hormones is still beyond
Scientific
Measure
to
this Point;
And yes, NeuroScientists For Real
also suggest now that we Basically
Hallucinate our Reality in Subconscious
way with our Feelings and Senses Driving
with Neo-Cortical and Rational Support on
A Tier Below the Driving Force of Emotions in
All of what we do as the Neo-Cortical Mind Works
Best as Servant Opposed to Slave of Addiction for those
who do not Master in Relative Free Will the Good Feelings and Senses of Life Generated from within.
I've gone to a Great Deal of Effort to put this into words where someone somewhere at least will understand
it now and take advantage of it as they do now for real. And while 6 Million Words of Free Verse Poetry in Epic
Long Form Poem Way has taught me much for putting the otherwise ineffable into Arts and Sciences of Words.
The Major Driving Force and Muse has been a Spiraling Golden Mean Ratio of Free Style Public Dance now for 10,000
Miles in the Same 5 years now that I wrote those 6 Million Words of Free Verse Poetry that I have shared around the
World in 7 Blogs where Hundreds of Thousands of Folks in just one of the Archive Blogs have Viewed my Human
Potential as it increased in real time there. Yes, it's true, it's not often true that one can view an Astronaut on the
Entire Trip
to their
Internal
Star Uncovered
but I intuited where I
was going Long before
I got tHere to the place I exist now
as that is the Metaphor of a Right
Brain Intelligence that can and will be expanded now too.

It's really hard for some folks to understand that it is the journey that counts most now;
Not the Dollar Bills, or the Likes, or the Follows, or even the Smart Phone Video Voyeurs
who have filmed my Public Dance Free to spread that Free verse Ministry of Dance around the World
where i Live in Flesh and Blood now; but it's true; they have yet to arrive and Perhaps one day 'they' will too.

Some Folks Call my Dance Crazy;
Some Folks Call it the Stuff of Legend;
Some Folks Just Stay in the Cave and Look Away.

But Never the
Less it is real and exists.

And as I also often 'tale' folks; just to avoid any potential
Future Confusion; I'm not 'the' Batman'; i am Just 'A' 'Batman' with Winks.
Bottom Line here is if one pooh pooh's what one doesn't understand one may never arrive for now
in places
like Heaven;
and this verily is
No New Human Story;
but yes, it's true for some it is
that which is not of their World, at
least not yet; as sure; i hold out hope for 'them'/'you' too..:)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2MYsx6WArKY

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aQvKql2GwCU


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11 Oct 2018, 11:24 am

^ tl/dr/dc ^

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11 Oct 2018, 11:44 am

Fnord wrote:
^ tl/dr/dc ^

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Smiles; Just a Quick Note; Fnord.

You are Not the only one in This Audience;

Large or Small as A Receptor.

And I dam sure wasn't directing this at you, Specifically;
but tHere's still Hope wHere tHere is Love That's Real
and Not
just
A
Four, Five or Six Letter Word of 'Stuff' starting with L or J or S;
Dude, not to get too far off Topic now but as I remember now
You've Suggested here in the past that Jesus is a Real Dude where
the Scientific Evidence Conclusively Suggests that's Just a Story
And very little of him left still exists in Actual Story Form
where the Story now is More Real Than the real Human
then; so it seems you are the one here who believes
in the Super Natural while i Follow Science Closer
than you in this way.
And sure as far as
that Story goes,
never
the less;
A Great one to still
Relate for Real too
and sure, this one too
for
me at least.


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11 Oct 2018, 11:53 am

^Is
there
any reason
why you make
you posts look pretty,
is it a conscious
effort. Do you
do it as you
go along
or type
out
your posts
then edit them
to look pretty


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^Is there any reason why you make you posts look pretty, is it a conscious effort? Do you do it as you go along or type out your posts then edit them to look pretty?
If you can't impress them with content, dazzle them with construction.



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11 Oct 2018, 12:47 pm

Fnord wrote:
SaveFerris wrote:
^Is
there
any reason
why you make
you posts look pretty,
is it a conscious
effort. Do you
do it as you
go along
or type
out
your posts
then edit them
to look pretty
If you can't impress them with content, dazzle them with construction.


It pissed you off so much , you edited my post :lol:


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11 Oct 2018, 12:51 pm

SaveFerris wrote:
Fnord wrote:
SaveFerris wrote:
^Is there any reason why you make you posts look pretty, is it a conscious effort? Do you do it as you go along or type out your posts then edit them to look pretty?
If you can't impress them with content, dazzle them with construction.
It pissed you off so much , you edited my post.
Yep! That format might have worked for e.e.cummings, but it just makes my eyes hurt.



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11 Oct 2018, 1:14 pm

SaveFerris wrote:
^Is
there
any reason
why you make
you posts look pretty,
is it a conscious
effort. Do you
do it as you
go along
or type
out
your posts
then edit them
to look pretty


Smiles, thanks for asking.
It's Like Magic and Even the
Supernatural for those who
Cannot Relate; Art Flows
outside
of
what
most Folks
See as Ration
when original at least.

But sure, I can Force myself to Write in A Straight Lines but it doesn't FEEL like Heaven; and i ain't going back to HELL..;)

In other Words, I don't
Literally Write the Shape;
I Metaphorically Feel and
Sense it Beyond all Words, specifically..;)

But hey; that's the Beauty of NeuroDiversity; Something New And F in Refreshing at least to me.

Again, Thanks for the Reciprocal Communication in Fashion of Wonder, instead of ButtHurt Confusion..;)

The Difference in some of us is; We don't give up trying to figure it All out; And Then we Just Do It New With No Fear.

And Per the other concern related, by that 'other' person; Jesus F in Christ, if it Hurts to Look at it than Just Don't Look; unless one can't help themselves, at least and or most.


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11 Oct 2018, 1:17 pm

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How about you? I would love to know of your thoughts, ideology on such matters and to get recommendations regarding it- books, podcasts, websites, articles... all the information :)!


"There are more things in Heaven and Earth, Horatio, than are dreamt of in your philosophy." (William Shakespeare, Hamlet)
What whould our life be without our phantasie? :flower:

If I walk through a city there are lot of walls mostly dirty and white or grey or brown. But I can start to imagine that they are full of flowers which grow anywhere on the walls and make them beautiful, friendly and colorful. This isn't difficult to imagine and as soon as I start to imagine that kind of stuff the walls stop to be dirty and grey and start to look much more friendly and nice and full of flowers to me. :flower: :flower: :flower: But my imagination does only change my mind and not the walls as they are. Even if my imagination makes them more beautiful and friendly it's not reality and the walls stay as they are. I don't want to miss my phantasy but if I start to believe that the flowers are a real thing I start to have really a big problem. :wink: :sunny:


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11 Oct 2018, 2:02 pm

aghogday wrote:
SaveFerris wrote:
^Is
there
any reason
why you make
you posts look pretty,
is it a conscious
effort. Do you
do it as you
go along
or type
out
your posts
then edit them
to look pretty


Smiles, thanks for asking.
It's Like Magic and Even the
Supernatural for those who
Cannot Relate; Art Flows
outside
of
what
most Folks
See as Ration
when original at least.

But sure, I can Force myself to Write in A Straight Lines but it doesn't FEEL like Heaven; and i ain't going back to HELL..;)

In other Words, I don't
Literally Write the Shape;
I Metaphorically Feel and
Sense it Beyond all Words, specifically..;)

But hey; that's the Beauty of NeuroDiversity; Something New And F in Refreshing at least to me.

Again, Thanks for the Reciprocal Communication in Fashion of Wonder, instead of ButtHurt Confusion..;)

The Difference in some of us is; We don't give up trying to figure it All out; And Then we Just Do It New With No Fear.

And Per the other concern related, by that 'other' person; Jesus F in Christ, if it Hurts to Look at it than Just Don't Look; unless one can't help themselves, at least and or most.


Thank you
for the explanation.
I never write enough
to make my posts
look pretty


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11 Oct 2018, 3:43 pm

SaveFerris wrote:
aghogday wrote:
SaveFerris wrote:
^Is
there
any reason
why you make
you posts look pretty,
is it a conscious
effort. Do you
do it as you
go along
or type
out
your posts
then edit them
to look pretty


Smiles, thanks for asking.
It's Like Magic and Even the
Supernatural for those who
Cannot Relate; Art Flows
outside
of
what
most Folks
See as Ration
when original at least.

But sure, I can Force myself to Write in A Straight Lines but it doesn't FEEL like Heaven; and i ain't going back to HELL..;)

In other Words, I don't
Literally Write the Shape;
I Metaphorically Feel and
Sense it Beyond all Words, specifically..;)

But hey; that's the Beauty of NeuroDiversity; Something New And F in Refreshing at least to me.

Again, Thanks for the Reciprocal Communication in Fashion of Wonder, instead of ButtHurt Confusion..;)

The Difference in some of us is; We don't give up trying to figure it All out; And Then we Just Do It New With No Fear.

And Per the other concern related, by that 'other' person; Jesus F in Christ, if it Hurts to Look at it than Just Don't Look; unless one can't help themselves, at least and or most.


Thank you
for the explanation.
I never write enough
to make my posts
look pretty


SMiles,"SaveFerris"; You are Very Welcome and Speaking of "Ferris" that is one of my all time
Favorite Movies as that applies to Overall Life and the Joy of Spontaneous
Creativity in the Moment of Life; the Real Present Now which is truly
A Real Magic in Life that is also for all practical Intents and Purposes
Super-Natural for those who have Yet to come
to a Place of Joy in Novelty of Life
like this and for me at least; there
is also "Forrest Gump", where the Lesson there is; it's
no so much about IQ; but Will and Never Giving up and Plugging
Along at Whatever one is Doing Their Best to Improve about Life; True,
with Enough Ping Pong Practice one might Become a Champion Ping Pong
Player too regardless of Higher IQ; making a Mark in the Record Books for Years to still come.
Sure; Dance Legend is Possible too but I've already done that and there is always something new to do;
I Believe in a Mix of
both; yes, 'Ferris' and
'Forrest' too as it's true just
Replace a U with an R in Austistic
and with Enough Epigenetic and Neuroplastic
Real Magic one Moves from AUtistic to ARtistic as the
'Other Side of the Mind' is more Fully Engaged in Metaphor
of Social Empathic Artistic Mind versus Systemizing Science Reason Mind;
the best
of both
Worlds
is the Magic
that Works for me, best.
I didn't come here to be Average; i came here to Just Be me;
And Like My Wife says, "You Are Something; But i'm not Quite Sure What";
Success
is
what
that Says
to me at Highest
Levels of Creativity And Just Doing it now;
On top of that every Novel way of Life, and not just
in words in all we Do from Steps of Dance through Words of Song,
actually according to Science as Long as it is done in a Positive Novel Way
Lights us up in almost innumerable new connections from Head to Toe like A Better Feel/Sense Good Christmas
Tree that is more than Super Natural for we can and will reach out and touch it as us now real.
Smiles, my Friend;
i'm just an Ocean and
These are my Waves as the
Ocean and Its Waves, one and same and different too;
as every Drop of Water within need not offer a Reason for Being now.
in one other Word;
i am A Beach
as i move far far far
away from the other Spelling of B88CH;
Or 'the Principle' of that School 'Ferris' went to;
who I must admit, kind of reminded me of me;
Before i grew into more of me as Beach.
When Butterflies come out
of Cocoons that's
Magic for
those
who have not
Forgotten the eyes of A Creative Child.


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11 Oct 2018, 3:49 pm

Bether3 wrote:
I have a love for everything ethereal, mystical and esoteric.

i.e. Near death experience/astral travel/past life regression accounts, stories of altered states of consciousness via the use of psychedelics and ayahuasca, consciousness studies, quantum theory, theology, Eckhart Tolle's books and speaking engagements, Duncan Trussell's podcasts on such, etc.

How about you? I would love to know of your thoughts, ideology on such matters and to get recommendations regarding it- books, podcasts, websites, articles... all the information :)!


i find that sort of stuff interesting and entertaining. i like listening to the cost to cost radio show that have guests talking about things like remote viewing, fringe science, the paranormal and so on. and i watch videos of that nature. i am too much of a cynic to truly believe in most of it, but i do like to entertain it in my mind.



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EzraS wrote:
i find that sort of stuff interesting and entertaining. i like listening to the coast to coast radio show that have guests talking about things like remote viewing, fringe science, the paranormal and so on. and i watch videos of that nature. i am too much of a cynic to truly believe in most of it, but i do like to entertain it in my mind.
Yeah, when I performed* readings at my cousin's New Age shop, there was a sign on the wall that stated "For Entertainment Purposes Only".

And another that stated "30 Minute Reading: $20 (Taxes not included)".


(* - "Performed" is the key word :wink: )



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11 Oct 2018, 4:18 pm

i like browsing new age and occult shops.



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11 Oct 2018, 4:27 pm

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i like browsing new age and occult shops.
Me too. They're great places to find handicrafts, esoterica, and off-beat knick-knacks.

Like this monkey's paw, for instance...

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