The Danger of Political Assassination from the Left

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11 Oct 2018, 8:13 pm

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The mainstream media always tries to hide any information that makes the Left look bad.

Rand Paul Reveals Media Hid Key Detail About GOP Baseball Attacker

Kentucky Republican Senator Rand Paul revealed on Wednesday that the media largely ignored a key detail from the attempted mass murder of Republican lawmakers last year at a baseball field in Virginia.

Appearing on Fox News' "FOX & Friends," Paul condemned the violent rhetoric of the political Left and the Democratic Party and warned that someone is going to end up getting killed if the inflammatory rhetoric doesn't stop.

"I was there at the ball field when Steven Scalise almost died from a very, very angry violent man who was incited really by rhetoric on the left,” Paul said.

"And this hasn’t been reported enough, when he came on the field with a semi-automatic weapon firing probably close to 200 shots at us, shooting five people and almost killing Steve Scalise, he was yelling 'this is for healthcare!" Paul said. "He also had a list of conservative legislators, Republicans, in his pocket that he was willing to kill."

https://www.dailywire.com/news/36994/ra ... n-saavedra

(2017) There’s a Health Care Lesson for Republicans in the Shooting of Steve Scalise - The GOP is attempting to expose millions of Americans to the kind of financial ruin that he has avoided—for now.

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Through no fault of his own, Scalise has just incurred hundreds of thousands, if not millions of dollars in medical expenses. And while he may ultimately be responsible for a tiny, tiny, tiny fraction of these costs, he and his Republican colleagues in Congress are, as he convalesces, attempting to expose millions of Americans to the kind of financial ruin he has so far avoided.

The elephant in the room since the shooting in Alexandria has been the tension between elected Republicans’ reflexive expectation that one of their colleagues receive outstanding care at essentially no monetary cost to him, and what they believe millions of other Americans should expect if they meet a similarly unlucky fate.

Because Republicans are the governing majority, they have no interest in letting Scalise’s ordeal become a symbol of anything related to health policy. I sent Scalise’s office two emails requesting redacted copies of his insurance statements when they become available—to make his total medical costs and his out-of-pocket costs a matter of public record—and received no response.

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11 Oct 2018, 8:35 pm

If this weren't so serious a topic, it would be laughable.

Of course, Rand Paul's nonsense is the sheerest speculation.

Nevertheless, it's almost certain to come true.

For the same reason that I can reasonably predict that the Sun will rise in the East tomorrow morning.

Here's a list (almost certainly not comprehensive, but rather extensive anyway) of US political assassinations:

List of assassinated American politicians

And let's not forget that Gabrielle Giffords was first targeted with rifle crosshairs by Sarah Palin in political ads before she was shot and a federal judge killed and 18 others wounded. So GOP whining about "getting in your face" is rank hypocrisy.

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11 Oct 2018, 8:38 pm

TL;DR until politicians actually stop wanting one someone or other dead, they'll keep goading people into killing.

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11 Oct 2018, 8:51 pm

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the left always deflects with "oh yeah what about the right?" which translates to me as them saying they do the same things as the right. that despite all their posturing they are no better and do and threaten to do what they claim to be against.

It's a matter of degree. I don't know of any left wing militias, but I can name several right wing ones, and Trump already pardoned a member of a right wing militia, said that Nazis were good people. Of course anyone of any political bent can go bad. But generally the left wants peace and no war, the right is gunning up for civil war.

f**k TRUMP

The continual deflecting back to the right is what will cost the left votes if that's the strategy their politicians use. it's like when a kid gets admonished for something he did and he responds saying "oh yeah what about so-in-so he's just as bad!". The left made tons of threats to the electors, they went on insane riots, have fired bullets. they keep talking about starting a french revolution and a civil war etc. so they can't pretend to be peaceful little lambs at the same time. really they've set themselves up for what Rand is saying to sound plausible.

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11 Oct 2018, 9:13 pm

ROGER STONE called for a Civil War. Liberals since then have been mocking the right for their calls for a civil war.

https://www.salon.com/2017/08/24/roger- ... impeached/

Is there any evidence of calls for a Civil War prior to this?

Other than Stone and reich wingers threatening to attack if Trump didn’t win?

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11 Oct 2018, 9:24 pm

wow it just keeps deflecting back to the right. we're just doing what they do which makes us just as bad as them, so there.

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12 Oct 2018, 1:36 pm

"Merely a beginning."

VANDALS HIT NYC GOP HEADQUARTERS: ‘ATTACK IS MERELY A BEGINNING’

The New York Republican New York City headquarters at the Metropolitan Republican Club on the upper east side of Manhattan was vandalized Thursday night with broken windows, a spray-painted anarchy sign, and a threatening message that the “attack is merely a beginning.” ...

The attack happened just weeks after vandals spray-painted an Illinois Republican Party office in Winnebago County with the words “rape” and “shame” on the building, Fox News reported.

Antifa groups have amped up their activity in the past few months, which include attacks on Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE), motorists, and residents in Portland, Oregon.

The Met Club, whose over 100-year-old brick townhouse on 83rd St. was the target of the damage, released a statement via their Twitter account:

“Last night the Metropolitan Republican Club was vandalized by the leftist hate group Antifa, who also left a note promising 'this is just the beginning' and threatening more violence."

https://dailycaller.com/2018/10/12/nyc- ... andalized/

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12 Oct 2018, 2:11 pm

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Political violence is all the same no matter who perpetrates it & who it affects. It's ONE CYCLE, not any kind of partisan tool because this is not part of any democratic process.

Putin killing journalists is the same thing as Saudis killing journalists. Same deal for right & left wing people who hurt each other. You're ignoring the distinction between political agendas & violence itself because you're pushing partisan nonsense.

Two thumbs up! I couldn't agree more!

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14 Oct 2018, 10:24 pm

Are you talking about the event where scumbag Gavin McInnes reenacted the political assassination of a left wing guy in Japan, then had his mob of violent goons yell homophobic slurs and antagonize a group of peaceful protesters outside? Yea. Keep defending "Proud Boys", a fraternity of violent misogynistic homophobic baboons. Why does the right celebrate bullying? Maybe some of these disgusting meat-heads need a goddamn bullet.

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14 Oct 2018, 10:48 pm

i can't help but believe that the prince of darkness, the father of lies, is behind all the devisiveness(misspelling intentional) which is gonna split this country apart along its cultural fault lines. his chief (Russian) agent president vlad putputt is doing much of his leg work. "a house divided upon itself cannot stand." "we have met the enemy, and he is us." amuuuricans are LETTING external agents keep us distracted by stupidly fighting one another rather than look up long enough to realize we're being played.

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15 Oct 2018, 1:00 am

So putin is behind all the flame fanning sensationalism of liberal media?

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15 Oct 2018, 1:55 am

Dar no

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There has already been an attempted assassination with one congressman shot. This is on top of a steady stream of leftist harassment of government officials in public and at their homes, openly incited by leftist members of Congress and even by Obama's attorney general (the only attorney general in history to be held in contempt of Congress).

Rand Paul warns of 'assassination' peril after Kavanaugh confirmation: 'I really worry someone is going to be killed'

Following the bitterly partisan, acrimonious confirmation battle over Associate Supreme Court Justice Brett Kavanaugh, Sen. Rand Paul, R-Ky., warned in an interview on Tuesday that heated political rhetoric has the potential to turn deadly.

"I fear that there's going to be an assassination," Paul told a Kentucky radio show. "I really worry that somebody is going to be killed, and that those who are ratcheting up the conversation ... they have to realize they bear some responsibility if this elevates to violence."

Paul's comments came the same day former presidential candidate Hillary Clinton declared that Democrats "cannot be civil" with Republicans any longer.

Paul's wife, Kelley, revealed in a Breitbart News interview on Friday that she sleeps with a "loaded gun by my bed," has updated her home's security system and has "deadbolts all around my house." Kelley also wrote an op-ed published by CNN in which she called on Sen. Cory Booker, D-N.J., to tone down his rhetoric; in June, Booker suggested his supporters “get up in the face of congresspeople.”

The Kentucky senator reiterated his wife's criticism on Tuesday. "When people like Cory Booker say get up in their face ... What he doesn't realize is that for every 1,000 persons who want to get up in your face, one of them is going to be unstable enough to commit violence," Paul said.

And last fall, Paul was attacked and beaten in his yard in Kentucky by his neighbor -- an episode that a Kentucky Democrat joked about earlier this year.

Paul was attending the congressional baseball practice last summer when a gunman opened fire, hitting House Majority Whip Steve Scalise, R-La., in the hip and injuring two Capitol police officers and an aide. The episode was very nearly a "massacre," lawmakers said.

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/rand-p ... -be-killed

...Antifa has chains and stuff. Violent right-wingers have bombs and BI-I-IG guns.
The media tends to ignore the political motivations of violent right-wingers, play them as simply " lone nuts ", though the likes of attacks on Planned Parenthood places and the Oklahoma City mass bombing reflect extreme right-wing aims.

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15 Oct 2018, 8:26 pm

Writer claimed letter sent to Collins’ home contained deadly toxin ricin

Federal and local police are investigating a letter that was sent Monday to Sen. Susan Collins’ Bangor home that the writer claimed contained the deadly toxin ricin, an act Collins’ office said was the latest in a series of threats against the senator in the wake of her vote to confirm Supreme Court Justice Brett Kavanaugh.

“Senator Collins’ husband, Tom Daffron, today received a threatening letter that the writer claimed was contaminated with ricin, a highly hazardous substance which was used in a previous attack against the United States Senate,” Collins spokeswoman Annie Clark said in a statement issued Monday night. “Mr. Daffron, their dog, and parts of their home were quarantined while the crime lab undertook an analysis of the premises. The affected areas have now been cleared, and Senator Collins and Mr. Daffron will be able to remain at home tonight.”

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15 Oct 2018, 8:51 pm

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As a matter of fact, someone has been killed - - A liberal, Heather Heyer, was murdered by right wing extremists at Charlottesville.

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15 Oct 2018, 9:00 pm

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An excerpt from a good commentary on how the media either suppresses left-wing violence or miraculously converts left-wing violence into right-wing violence:

The politics of reporting on left-wing violence against the right

...Hemingway goes on to fisk the Times editorial very effectively. But Hemingway is not the audience the Times is addressing, then or now. It doesn’t need to be logical or truthful, it merely needs to be good at writing propaganda and spreading the desired meme, which is, as Hemingway succinctly put it:

"[The Times’] standard is to blame Republicans for violence against Democrats when there is no relationship of any Republican to that violence, and to blame Republicans for violence against Republicans when the perpetrator is a progressive Democratic activist."

But most people are unaware not only of this ploy, but of the fact that it’s not the least bit new. In fact, it was already well-established over fifty years ago with the press response to the JFK assassination.

Kennedy’s assassination was an act of extreme political violence perpetrated against a Democratic but moderate president by a leftist. There is zero doubt that Oswald was a rabid leftist, but some of the media of the time managed to blame the right in an act of journalistic jujutsu that has rarely been equaled. And that blaming continues to this day.

https://www.thenewneo.com/2018/10/11/th ... the-right/

It goes back well before JFK's assassination by the communist Oswald. For 70 years the American left has dutifully spread Stalin's propaganda that the National Socialist German Workers Party was "right wing."

The New Orleans District Attorney's office had conducted it's own investigation into the Kennedy assassination, as Oswald had spent the summer of '63 in that city. They had found Oswald had had associations with far right wing fanatics involved in the Anti-Castro underground, despite having been a communist in earlier times. As these dangerous and rabid characters had been associated with both the CIA and organized crime - two influential groups - the trial of businessman Clay Shaw, who had had connections to both Oswald and Anti-Castroites such as David Ferry (also a close Oswald associate), had been derailed, and the very promising career of the New Orleans District Attorney, Jim Garrison, was left in tatters.

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15 Oct 2018, 9:49 pm

Spooky_Mulder wrote:

...Jim Bakker, as well (Tammy Faye's
ex-con ex), was " warning " about violence if Trump was impeached - In his case, ladling on a considerable amount of " Jesus would WANT you to take up arms against anyone dissing The Holy Trump :skull:

! !! !! "

. (Oh, the language he used PROBABLY, I suppose, skated around what a lawyer would argue was " encouraging violence ". Go look it up for yourself.

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