The Danger of Political Assassination from the Left

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15 Oct 2018, 8:51 pm

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There has already been an attempted assassination with one congressman shot. This is on top of a steady stream of leftist harassment of government officials in public and at their homes, openly incited by leftist members of Congress and even by Obama's attorney general (the only attorney general in history to be held in contempt of Congress).

Rand Paul warns of 'assassination' peril after Kavanaugh confirmation: 'I really worry someone is going to be killed'

Following the bitterly partisan, acrimonious confirmation battle over Associate Supreme Court Justice Brett Kavanaugh, Sen. Rand Paul, R-Ky., warned in an interview on Tuesday that heated political rhetoric has the potential to turn deadly.

"I fear that there's going to be an assassination," Paul told a Kentucky radio show. "I really worry that somebody is going to be killed, and that those who are ratcheting up the conversation ... they have to realize they bear some responsibility if this elevates to violence."

Paul's comments came the same day former presidential candidate Hillary Clinton declared that Democrats "cannot be civil" with Republicans any longer.

Paul's wife, Kelley, revealed in a Breitbart News interview on Friday that she sleeps with a "loaded gun by my bed," has updated her home's security system and has "deadbolts all around my house." Kelley also wrote an op-ed published by CNN in which she called on Sen. Cory Booker, D-N.J., to tone down his rhetoric; in June, Booker suggested his supporters “get up in the face of congresspeople.”

The Kentucky senator reiterated his wife's criticism on Tuesday. "When people like Cory Booker say get up in their face ... What he doesn't realize is that for every 1,000 persons who want to get up in your face, one of them is going to be unstable enough to commit violence," Paul said.

And last fall, Paul was attacked and beaten in his yard in Kentucky by his neighbor -- an episode that a Kentucky Democrat joked about earlier this year.

Paul was attending the congressional baseball practice last summer when a gunman opened fire, hitting House Majority Whip Steve Scalise, R-La., in the hip and injuring two Capitol police officers and an aide. The episode was very nearly a "massacre," lawmakers said.


https://www.foxnews.com/politics/rand-p ... -be-killed


As a matter of fact, someone has been killed - - A liberal, Heather Heyer, was murdered by right wing extremists at Charlottesville.


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15 Oct 2018, 9:00 pm

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An excerpt from a good commentary on how the media either suppresses left-wing violence or miraculously converts left-wing violence into right-wing violence:

The politics of reporting on left-wing violence against the right

...Hemingway goes on to fisk the Times editorial very effectively. But Hemingway is not the audience the Times is addressing, then or now. It doesn’t need to be logical or truthful, it merely needs to be good at writing propaganda and spreading the desired meme, which is, as Hemingway succinctly put it:

"[The Times’] standard is to blame Republicans for violence against Democrats when there is no relationship of any Republican to that violence, and to blame Republicans for violence against Republicans when the perpetrator is a progressive Democratic activist."

But most people are unaware not only of this ploy, but of the fact that it’s not the least bit new. In fact, it was already well-established over fifty years ago with the press response to the JFK assassination.

Kennedy’s assassination was an act of extreme political violence perpetrated against a Democratic but moderate president by a leftist. There is zero doubt that Oswald was a rabid leftist, but some of the media of the time managed to blame the right in an act of journalistic jujutsu that has rarely been equaled. And that blaming continues to this day.


https://www.thenewneo.com/2018/10/11/th ... the-right/

It goes back well before JFK's assassination by the communist Oswald. For 70 years the American left has dutifully spread Stalin's propaganda that the National Socialist German Workers Party was "right wing."


The New Orleans District Attorney's office had conducted it's own investigation into the Kennedy assassination, as Oswald had spent the summer of '63 in that city. They had found Oswald had had associations with far right wing fanatics involved in the Anti-Castro underground, despite having been a communist in earlier times. As these dangerous and rabid characters had been associated with both the CIA and organized crime - two influential groups - the trial of businessman Clay Shaw, who had had connections to both Oswald and Anti-Castroites such as David Ferry (also a close Oswald associate), had been derailed, and the very promising career of the New Orleans District Attorney, Jim Garrison, was left in tatters.


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15 Oct 2018, 9:49 pm

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ROGER STONE called for a Civil War. Liberals since then have been mocking the right for their calls for a civil war.

https://www.salon.com/2017/08/24/roger- ... impeached/

Is there any evidence of calls for a Civil War prior to this?

Other than Stone and reich wingers threatening to attack if Trump didn’t win?









...Jim Bakker, as well (Tammy Faye's
ex-con ex), was " warning " about violence if Trump was impeached - In his case, ladling on a considerable amount of " Jesus would WANT you to take up arms against anyone dissing The Holy Trump :skull: ! !! !! " 8O. (Oh, the language he used PROBABLY, I suppose, skated around what a lawyer would argue was " encouraging violence ". Go look it up for yourself. :P )


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16 Oct 2018, 6:18 pm

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"200 shots at us, shooting five people and almost killing Steve Scalise, he was yelling 'this is for healthcare!"

As I was saying...

Every tried to hit moving targets at a distance? It’s not easy. It’s why I suck ar video games and skeet shooting.



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20 Oct 2018, 3:32 pm

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I'm sorry; can someone please remind me how many concentration camps for children the Democrats operated?
Trump's Concentration Camps for Kids


Yeah the detention centres were going on under Obama. Just the media didn't cover it. It's just that Trump tried to have zero tolerance with ILLEGAL immigration. Obama was supporting the genocidal war in Yemen. He was helping the continuation on the concentration camp in Gaza.


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23 Oct 2018, 12:04 pm

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Fatal attacks done in the name of white supremacy is terrorism and those who do it are terrorists. The most "successful" terrorist organization in US history is the Ku Klux Klan. Any individual or group who use violence to intimidate for social/political reasons is a terrorist.

We tend to describe people who use violent intimidation to advance a cause we do not like terrorists and do it for causes we sympathize with something else, "Freedom Fighters", "militants", "radicals" "patriots" etc.

You can be mentally ill and be a terrorist, most people who randomly kill civilians are probably are mentally ill. If they are sane enough to commit the violence and do it for some sort of socio-political cause no matter how "nuts" we think their cause is they are a terrorist. If they are doing it purely because they are a sadistic they are not a terrorist.

A person who commits acts of revenge may be a terrorist. If he or she does it purely for revenge they are not terrorists. If they do it because they became "radicalized" by the death of their family they are. Intimidation purely for financial gain is not terrorism even though gangs commonly use terroristic tactics.

The reason for this rant is that I am a terrorist victim warrior. Since 9/11 the media has tended to call only acts of violent intimidation done for jihadist reasons terrorism. The headline is a prime example of this incorrect trend. I find the headline implying victims of white supremacist violence are not victims of terrorism offensive. While I am on the subject of definitions, being offended for another group because I think I know how they feel classic "justice warrior" thinking.


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23 Oct 2018, 2:00 pm

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The real terrorist threat comes from inside of America from people who look like a great many of us.


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23 Oct 2018, 5:48 pm

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Piobaire wrote:


The real terrorist threat comes from inside of America from people who look like a great many of us.

Yeah they put on black mask and terrorize Portland every week



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23 Oct 2018, 6:14 pm

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Kraichgauer wrote:
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The real terrorist threat comes from inside of America from people who look like a great many of us.

Yeah they put on black mask and terrorize Portland every week


Just who have they killed?


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24 Oct 2018, 9:13 am

Reports that an explosive device has been intercepted at Bill and Hillary Clinton's New York home

Also read that just earlier this week a Democrat donor had an explosive device sent to their house too

8O 8O 8O



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24 Oct 2018, 9:52 am

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Yeah they put on black mask and terrorize Portland every week

I live in Portland and work downtown. WTF are you talking about?



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24 Oct 2018, 10:12 am

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Reports that an explosive device has been intercepted at Bill and Hillary Clinton's New York home

Also read that just earlier this week a Democrat donor had an explosive device sent to their house too

8O 8O 8O


CNN, Soros and the Obamas were also targeted.
I'm just waiting for the lunatic right (including Trump) to say that the left set this up themselves to garner sympathy.


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24 Oct 2018, 10:19 am

yeah just reading that Obama got one and the CNN building is now being evacuated.

crazy, crazy times



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24 Oct 2018, 10:34 am

Stochastic terrorism.

Dangerous rhetoric, is in fact dangerous.


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