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14 Oct 2018, 3:05 pm

Portland Streets Descend Into Bedlam, Again, as Proud Boys and Antifascists Maul Each Other

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A sudden march by Proud Boys through downtown Portland tonight turned into a melee, as tensions between radical groups stoked by national media erupted in a street brawl that police struggled to contain.

Right-wing extremists and masked antifascists clashed on the street outside of Kelly's Olympian, a downtown bar. Several brutal fights broke out at once, with black-clad leftists swinging at their MAGA-hat wearing adversaries. Some of the right-wingers struck with batons. Both sides used pepper spray.

Adding to the already high tensions between warring protest groups in Portland, videos showing a large group of Proud Boys beating two or three protesters in New York City after attending a Friday event at the city's GOP headquarters drew widespread attention today. The videos led national media to scrutinize the Proud Boys, a fringe group that has close ties with Gibson and Patriot Prayer.

onight, the Patriot Prayer crowd, peppered with Proud Boys and others sporting American flags and "Don't Tread On Me" banners, marched through downtown Portland shouting about unseating Wheeler and sending Antifa home.

The crowd chanted "USA" as it approached a vigil for Patrick Kimmons, a man fatally shot by Portland police last month. The leftist protesters at the vigil had been chanting "Black Lives Matter." Someone in the left-wing crowd set an American flag on fire, but a Patriot Prayer marcher snagged it before it could burn to ashes.

Shortly after leaving the vigil, some people in the far-right crowd clashed with antifascist protesters for the first time. After exchanging insults, a masked left-wing protester pepper sprayed a handful of right-wing supporters.

But the true chaos broke out later, shortly before 8 pm, on Southwest Washington Street outside Kelly's Olympian.

A man who appeared to be Tusitala "Tiny" Toese kicked a counter-protester who was on the ground. Another right-wing supporter ran up and stomped on the man's face. One of his fellow protesters pushed him away and said "Let him go."


Portland police intervened to break up some of the skirmishes. An officer can be seen on video firing pepper balls at four right-wing protesters who were beating a single antifascist protester on the ground.



https://nypost.com/2018/10/13/three-men-busted-in-brawl-outside-event-for-proud-boys-leader/
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Three people protesting a speech by right-wing provocateur Gavin McInnes on the Upper East Side were busted Friday after brawls broke out on neighboring sidewalks, cops said.

The violence started after about 80 protesters gathered outside the Metropolitan Republican Club at Third Avenue and East 83th Street, where McInnes was speaking, police said.

McInnes, a co-founder of Vice Media, heads a right-wing group called the Proud Boys, which has been characterized as a hate group by the Southern Poverty Law Center, and is a since-departed co-founder of Vice Media. The club was vandalized before McInnes’ appearance.

As the audience left at around 8:15 p.m., cops say, three protesters followed a man who broke into a run as he left the building.

The man dropped his backpack, and when he tried to pick it up, a protester punched him and took his property, cops said.

Finbarr Slonim, 20, and Caleb Perkins, 35, both of the Upper East Side, and Kai Russo, 20, from Bushwick, have been freed without bail on charges of felony burglary and misdemeanor assault.

“We vigorously dispute the allegations,” said their lawyer”

Photojournalist Shay Horse tweeted about a fight involving “30 (proud boys) V 3 (randoms).”

“It ended with 30 proud boys pummeling a guy on the ground screaming, ‘ARE YOU BRAVE NOW F—-T?!’” he posted.


Vandals had thrown a brick through the window of the same Republican club early Friday, scrawling two anarchy symbols on its front door and gluing the locks, cops said.
The vandalism appeared to also be tied to McInnes’ appearance.


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14 Oct 2018, 7:16 pm

Members Of A Far-Right Men’s Group Violently Beat Up Protesters And Weren’t Arrested. New York Police Won’t Say Why. The NYPD ignored multiple emails from BuzzFeed News asking why the "Proud Boys" members were not arrested for the violent assault.

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The far-right men’s organization “Proud Boys” violently beat two or three apparent protesters Friday night following a Republican event in Manhattan.

About 30 members of the group — who describe themselves as "Western chauvinists" and have frequently aligned themselves with avowed neo-Nazis — participated in the beating, some screaming threats and slurs at the individuals, according to video and an eyewitness account.

Although New York Police Department officers were present at the time of the attack, none of the Proud Boys were arrested for the beatdown...

...New York Public Advocate Letitia James called on the NYPD to arrest all the Proud Boys involved in the beating.

"I am disturbed and disgusted by the videos I’ve seen of members of the neo-fascist, white supremacist Proud Boys group engaging in hate-fueled mob violence on the streets of New York City," James said. "New York will not become the next Charlottesville, and we refuse to let the actions of a hateful few define our City."

James said she would also urge the district attorney to pursue hate crime charges due to "the clear homophobic and anti-immigrant sentiments expressed in the videos.

New York Attorney General Barbara Underwood echoed the sentiments, saying on Twitter that "hate has no place in New York."

"This warrants immediate and thorough investigation by the NYPD to bring the perpetrators to justice," Underwood said. Her office declined to comment further."



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14 Oct 2018, 7:40 pm

The street thugs wearing masks seem to be mostly responsible.

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-These masked hoodlums swung at MAGA wearing people.
-They punched a man, and stole his backpack.
-They pepper sprayed a group of people.
-A brick was thrown through a Republican building.
-They appeared to have vandalized the same building earlier in the week.

They sound like violent animals, sub-human , who have little tolerance for freedom speech, freedom to peacefully assemble. I would say they're closed-minded, but the truth is that they're likely just young and dumb.

It is kinda of funny though, "Proud Boys" vs "Mask faces" (not proud of their actions).


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14 Oct 2018, 11:49 pm

More bloodshed. The gods will be pleased.


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15 Oct 2018, 7:48 pm

amuuuricans are being played.



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15 Oct 2018, 8:12 pm

Yep I'm beginning to wonder if the 1% is behind Trumpmania. This sort of stuff plus the obsessive daily front page coverage of Trump has always made the left look like total kooks to those they're trying to turn. I think most anyone who hasn't gotten swept up in it, just rolls their eyes and shakes their heads. #oversaturation



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16 Oct 2018, 3:22 am

EzraS wrote:
Yep I'm beginning to wonder if the 1% is behind Trumpmania. This sort of stuff plus the obsessive daily front page coverage of Trump has always made the left look like total kooks to those they're trying to turn. I think most anyone who hasn't gotten swept up in it, just rolls their eyes and shakes their heads. #oversaturation

The 1% behind Trumpmania? Impossible! That would require the 1% to have control over the media! /sarcasm


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16 Oct 2018, 8:57 am

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16 Oct 2018, 11:44 am

Gavin McInnes founded Vice media and proud boys. Mr. McInnes has been described as "Alt Lite" or "Hipster alt right" because he is snarky. He does not go around carrying Tiki torches and saying "Jews will not replace us". He produced a video "Ten things I hate about Jews" and changed it "Ten things I hate about Israel". He claims to like Jews and Israel(hey they built a wall first) but claims they are too wimpy and obsess over the Holocaust too much after all Mao killed more and you do not see them obsessing over those atrocities. He blames Jewish leftists for the Holodomor a Joseph Stalin created famine the killed millions primarily in Ukraine and has been described by some reliable sources as genocide. Mr. McGinness is pretending to friends to groups while spreading the usual hate tropes. This is "alt light" apparently.

This is the person the Manhatten Republican club decided to invite to speak. They did it for attention. This club has not been relevant for a half-century when it was the center of the now defunct "liberal republicanism" or “silk stocking” republicans of Jacob Javits. For all intents and purposes, they are pretty much the only Republicans in Manhattan these days. If they knew enough about Gavin McGinness to invite him they knew they were likely to be attacked by Antifa as the Proud Boys and Antifa have regularly clashed. The night before McGinnis spoke a brick was thrown through their window. McGinniss spoke staged a "play" in which he kills a Japanese socialist by sword and the street brawls followed.

If Antifa did not come to the event it would have gone mostly unnoticed and that would have been that. Like I said earlier these clashes between the proud boys and antifa have occurred before, they are a regular occurrence in Portland but they have received minimal attention previously, but since it happened in New York City the media center of the world it is now a thing. Cuomo with presidential ambitions said his two cents, a rally in which the city's progressive politicians acted as if Nazi stormtroopers were marching in occurred. The proud boys were rightly denounced and antifa was not mentioned. While Nazi storm troopers are not marching on New York any time soon this was a great recruiting tool for antifa and the proud boys.

What a wonderful country :(


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16 Oct 2018, 5:26 pm

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If Antifa did not come to the event it would have gone mostly unnoticed and that would have been that.

So they gave their enemies increased publicity. Not too smart.


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16 Oct 2018, 5:57 pm

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If Antifa did not come to the event it would have gone mostly unnoticed and that would have been that.

So they gave their enemies increased publicity. Not too smart.

They gave themselves publicity also.


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16 Oct 2018, 6:30 pm

as long as people continue to wear partisan hats, they will continue to deserve everything they get.


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16 Oct 2018, 9:04 pm

Kiprobalhato wrote:
as long as people continue to wear partisan hats, they will continue to deserve everything they get.

It doesn't help that nowadays politics is about what you oppose. It used to be about what you stand for.


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17 Oct 2018, 1:24 am

I am a democrat only because the GOP opposes everything I favor, and favors everything I oppose.



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17 Oct 2018, 9:29 am

Kiprobalhato wrote:
as long as people continue to wear partisan hats, they will continue to deserve everything they get.

Nothing wrong with partisanship. There is something wrong with fascist militias. We are one Reichstag fire away from Kristallnacht and Putin is laughing.