Trump okay with Saudi explanation for Khashoggi's murder

Page 1 of 1 [ 13 posts ] 

thoughtbeast
Veteran
Veteran

User avatar

Joined: 19 Oct 2014
Gender: Male
Posts: 1,337
Location: Scarlet Jungle of Krypton

20 Oct 2018, 7:51 am

Saudi Arabia Says Jamal Khashoggi Was Killed in Consulate Fight

Quote:
President Trump on Friday night said that Saudi Arabia’s statements were credible and that, along with its announcement of arrests, amounted to “good first steps.” ...

But Representative Adam Schiff of California was not buying the Saudi explanation. Mr. Schiff, the senior Democrat on the House Intelligence Committee, said in an interview Friday night that “if Khashoggi was fighting inside the Saudi consulate in Istanbul, he was fighting for his life with people sent to capture or kill him.”

Mr. Schiff, who said he had received a detailed, classified briefing earlier in the day on what American spy services believe were the circumstances, said that the Saudi version “was not credible.” He said he could not disclose what the intelligence agency briefers told him.

Since Mr. Khashoggi disappeared after entering the consulate on Oct. 2, Saudi Arabia has offered various, changing explanations for his disappearance, all of which seemed to distance top leadership from responsibility...

The Turks had said the body had been disassembled with a bone saw by an autopsy specialist flown in specifically for that purpose and probably carried out of the consulate in large suitcases.

Turkish investigators were searching a park and a forest this week for traces of Mr. Khashoggi’s remains but did not announce their findings.

The reports of Mr. Khashoggi’s killing have shaken members of the Saudi royal family, many of whom were angry about Crown Prince Mohammed’s swift rise over the past three years. Some wondered if the scandal could lead his father, King Salman, to replace him with another prince not tarnished by the case.

But instead, the king named Crown Prince Mohammed as head of a committee to restructure the kingdom’s intelligence agency...

Samantha Power, a former ambassador to the United Nations under President Barack Obama, said on Twitter that the Saudis were “shifting from bald-face lies (‘#Khashoggi left consulate’) to faux condemnation (of a ‘rogue operation’) to claiming the fox will credibly investigate what he did to the hen.” ...

The Saudi statement, for example, offered no explanation for why Mr. Khashoggi would enter into an altercation with multiple foes in territory he knew to be dangerous. Mr. Khashoggi was regarded as low key and even-tempered by those who knew him. He felt nervous enough about his safety entering the consulate that he told his fiancée to wait outside with instructions to call the Turkish authorities if he did not come out.



Kraichgauer
Veteran
Veteran

User avatar

Joined: 12 Apr 2010
Gender: Male
Posts: 41,998
Location: Spokane area, Washington state.

21 Oct 2018, 1:02 am

So, if the Saudi story is to be believed, after Khashoggi was killed in a fist fight, instead of reporting this to any authorities in either Turkey of Saudi Arabia, they decide to hide the crime by dismembering him, and driving off to do God knows what with the body parts. And they just happen to have had a bone saw handy. And Trump is throwing his support behind the Saudis.
Only the most deliriously devoted Trumpanzee could fall for this.


_________________
-Bill, otherwise known as Kraichgauer


Piobaire
Veteran
Veteran

User avatar

Joined: 28 Dec 2017
Gender: Male
Posts: 1,347
Location: Smackass Gap, NC

23 Oct 2018, 7:13 am

Image



Kraichgauer
Veteran
Veteran

User avatar

Joined: 12 Apr 2010
Gender: Male
Posts: 41,998
Location: Spokane area, Washington state.

23 Oct 2018, 1:51 pm

Piobaire wrote:
Image


:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: ! !! !!


_________________
-Bill, otherwise known as Kraichgauer


JohnPowell
Veteran
Veteran

User avatar

Joined: 6 Feb 2016
Age: 37
Gender: Male
Posts: 5,806
Location: Palestine

23 Oct 2018, 2:28 pm

Kraichgauer wrote:
So, if the Saudi story is to be believed, after Khashoggi was killed in a fist fight, instead of reporting this to any authorities in either Turkey of Saudi Arabia, they decide to hide the crime by dismembering him, and driving off to do God knows what with the body parts. And they just happen to have had a bone saw handy. And Trump is throwing his support behind the Saudis.
Only the most deliriously devoted Trumpanzee could fall for this.


The US reaction would have been the same regardless of who was President. The editor of the New York Times believes it too. Liberals have been crowing about how this Prince has been a 'reformer'. No one blinked an eyelid when the Saudis blew up a school bus that killed dozens of children a couple of months back. The US's foreign policy is a disgrace no matter who is in charge.


_________________
"No one believes more firmly than Comrade Napoleon that all animals are equal. He would be only too happy to let you make your decisions for yourselves. But sometimes you might make the wrong decisions, comrades, and then where should we be?"


Kraichgauer
Veteran
Veteran

User avatar

Joined: 12 Apr 2010
Gender: Male
Posts: 41,998
Location: Spokane area, Washington state.

23 Oct 2018, 6:00 pm

JohnPowell wrote:
Kraichgauer wrote:
So, if the Saudi story is to be believed, after Khashoggi was killed in a fist fight, instead of reporting this to any authorities in either Turkey of Saudi Arabia, they decide to hide the crime by dismembering him, and driving off to do God knows what with the body parts. And they just happen to have had a bone saw handy. And Trump is throwing his support behind the Saudis.
Only the most deliriously devoted Trumpanzee could fall for this.


The US reaction would have been the same regardless of who was President. The editor of the New York Times believes it too. Liberals have been crowing about how this Prince has been a 'reformer'. No one blinked an eyelid when the Saudis blew up a school bus that killed dozens of children a couple of months back. The US's foreign policy is a disgrace no matter who is in charge.


Maybe it would have been the same, maybe not. The real difference here is, Trump is personally indebted to the House of Saud.


_________________
-Bill, otherwise known as Kraichgauer


JohnPowell
Veteran
Veteran

User avatar

Joined: 6 Feb 2016
Age: 37
Gender: Male
Posts: 5,806
Location: Palestine

24 Oct 2018, 11:26 am

So are the Clintons. Trump is indebted to Israel more than any other country but not heard anyone complain about that.


_________________
"No one believes more firmly than Comrade Napoleon that all animals are equal. He would be only too happy to let you make your decisions for yourselves. But sometimes you might make the wrong decisions, comrades, and then where should we be?"


Kraichgauer
Veteran
Veteran

User avatar

Joined: 12 Apr 2010
Gender: Male
Posts: 41,998
Location: Spokane area, Washington state.

24 Oct 2018, 3:02 pm

JohnPowell wrote:
So are the Clintons. Trump is indebted to Israel more than any other country but not heard anyone complain about that.


When did Israel loan any money to Trump, or done business with him like the Saudis have? For that matter, when has the Saudis lent money to the Clintons?


_________________
-Bill, otherwise known as Kraichgauer


JohnPowell
Veteran
Veteran

User avatar

Joined: 6 Feb 2016
Age: 37
Gender: Male
Posts: 5,806
Location: Palestine

24 Oct 2018, 6:10 pm

Kraichgauer wrote:
JohnPowell wrote:
So are the Clintons. Trump is indebted to Israel more than any other country but not heard anyone complain about that.


When did Israel loan any money to Trump, or done business with him like the Saudis have? For that matter, when has the Saudis lent money to the Clintons?


Sheldon Adelson gave billions to Trump. Trump in bed with Netanyahu, literally. Trump's son in law has had Netanyahu sleep in his bed. The Kushners have investments in the illegal settlements in the occupied territories and Trump made Jared his Middle East guru. Trump has done everything for Israel.
It was in the Clinton emails that CNN made out were nothing. Clinton knew the Saudis fund ISIS while she was taking millions from the Saudis into her foundation.


_________________
"No one believes more firmly than Comrade Napoleon that all animals are equal. He would be only too happy to let you make your decisions for yourselves. But sometimes you might make the wrong decisions, comrades, and then where should we be?"


Kraichgauer
Veteran
Veteran

User avatar

Joined: 12 Apr 2010
Gender: Male
Posts: 41,998
Location: Spokane area, Washington state.

24 Oct 2018, 6:49 pm

JohnPowell wrote:
Kraichgauer wrote:
JohnPowell wrote:
So are the Clintons. Trump is indebted to Israel more than any other country but not heard anyone complain about that.


When did Israel loan any money to Trump, or done business with him like the Saudis have? For that matter, when has the Saudis lent money to the Clintons?


Sheldon Adelson gave billions to Trump. Trump in bed with Netanyahu, literally. Trump's son in law has had Netanyahu sleep in his bed. The Kushners have investments in the illegal settlements in the occupied territories and Trump made Jared his Middle East guru. Trump has done everything for Israel.
It was in the Clinton emails that CNN made out were nothing. Clinton knew the Saudis fund ISIS while she was taking millions from the Saudis into her foundation.


Sheldon Adelson is a rich a$$hole who happens to be Jewish, but he's not the Israeli government.
While the Kushner's might have a cozy relationship with Israel and their illegal settlements, how does that transmit to Trump, who's only Kushner's father-in-law?


_________________
-Bill, otherwise known as Kraichgauer


JohnPowell
Veteran
Veteran

User avatar

Joined: 6 Feb 2016
Age: 37
Gender: Male
Posts: 5,806
Location: Palestine

24 Oct 2018, 6:56 pm

Kraichgauer wrote:
JohnPowell wrote:
Kraichgauer wrote:
JohnPowell wrote:
So are the Clintons. Trump is indebted to Israel more than any other country but not heard anyone complain about that.


When did Israel loan any money to Trump, or done business with him like the Saudis have? For that matter, when has the Saudis lent money to the Clintons?


Sheldon Adelson gave billions to Trump. Trump in bed with Netanyahu, literally. Trump's son in law has had Netanyahu sleep in his bed. The Kushners have investments in the illegal settlements in the occupied territories and Trump made Jared his Middle East guru. Trump has done everything for Israel.
It was in the Clinton emails that CNN made out were nothing. Clinton knew the Saudis fund ISIS while she was taking millions from the Saudis into her foundation.


Sheldon Adelson is a rich a$$hole who happens to be Jewish, but he's not the Israeli government.
While the Kushner's might have a cozy relationship with Israel and their illegal settlements, how does that transmit to Trump, who's only Kushner's father-in-law?


:lol: OK not worth wasting my time with people in denial. You think you'd be making excuses for Trump and Putin if Putin had slept in Trump's son in law's bed and Trump had made his son in law some envoy to Russia. Get real!! !! !! !!
Adelson is all tied up with Israel.


_________________
"No one believes more firmly than Comrade Napoleon that all animals are equal. He would be only too happy to let you make your decisions for yourselves. But sometimes you might make the wrong decisions, comrades, and then where should we be?"


EzraS
Veteran
Veteran

User avatar

Joined: 24 Sep 2013
Gender: Male
Posts: 27,828
Location: Twin Peaks

24 Oct 2018, 7:11 pm

JohnPowell wrote:
The US reaction would have been the same regardless of who was President. The editor of the New York Times believes it too. Liberals have been crowing about how this Prince has been a 'reformer'. No one blinked an eyelid when the Saudis blew up a school bus that killed dozens of children a couple of months back. The US's foreign policy is a disgrace no matter who is in charge.


It's all about the never ending struggle trying to lower Trump's approval rating.



Kraichgauer
Veteran
Veteran

User avatar

Joined: 12 Apr 2010
Gender: Male
Posts: 41,998
Location: Spokane area, Washington state.

24 Oct 2018, 8:24 pm

JohnPowell wrote:
Kraichgauer wrote:
JohnPowell wrote:
Kraichgauer wrote:
JohnPowell wrote:
So are the Clintons. Trump is indebted to Israel more than any other country but not heard anyone complain about that.


When did Israel loan any money to Trump, or done business with him like the Saudis have? For that matter, when has the Saudis lent money to the Clintons?


Sheldon Adelson gave billions to Trump. Trump in bed with Netanyahu, literally. Trump's son in law has had Netanyahu sleep in his bed. The Kushners have investments in the illegal settlements in the occupied territories and Trump made Jared his Middle East guru. Trump has done everything for Israel.
It was in the Clinton emails that CNN made out were nothing. Clinton knew the Saudis fund ISIS while she was taking millions from the Saudis into her foundation.


Sheldon Adelson is a rich a$$hole who happens to be Jewish, but he's not the Israeli government.
While the Kushner's might have a cozy relationship with Israel and their illegal settlements, how does that transmit to Trump, who's only Kushner's father-in-law?


:lol: OK not worth wasting my time with people in denial. You think you'd be making excuses for Trump and Putin if Putin had slept in Trump's son in law's bed and Trump had made his son in law some envoy to Russia. Get real!! ! ! ! ! ! !
Adelson is all tied up with Israel.


Okay, fine.


_________________
-Bill, otherwise known as Kraichgauer