31 Oct 2018, 4:08 pm
31 Oct 2018, 4:12 pm
Magna wrote:
TW1ZTY wrote:
......Judging anybody because of their skin color IS racist.
Exactly! I agree with you 100% and have been saying that same thing for a long time. There is no such thing as "reverse racism". "Reverse racism" is not OK. Racism is racism is racism whether it's white against black, black against white, etc. All racism is bad, period.
Agreed!
I'm glad somebody understands that. 
31 Oct 2018, 4:30 pm
31 Oct 2018, 4:40 pm
TW1ZTY wrote:
Bataar wrote:
TW1ZTY wrote:
Bataar wrote:
TW1ZTY wrote:
Piobaire wrote:
I mistakenly assumed that my society was too far advanced and my countrymen far too intelligent to replace the first Black president with a racist know-nothing endorsed by the Ku Klux Klan.
Clearly, I overestimated both.
Clearly, I overestimated both.
You're not the only one. Hell I didn't even think it was legal for him to say all this s**t he does about women, hispanics, and black people on TV. If it were anybody else in this country saying those things they would have had so many Civil Rights lawsuits filed against them and their reputation quickly ruined. What exactly makes this guy so untouchable?
What s**t does he say about women, Hispanics and black people on TV?
I feel sorry for anyone who doesn't understand what racism is if they believe anything in that video was actually racist.
He talks about advantages educated black men have. What is racist about that? It's 100% accurate. In corporate America, if two people were applying for a job, a white man and a black man and they were of similar experience and education, the black man would get hired most of the time. It helps the company's diversity numbers. It's just the way things are now and recognizing it is not racist.
So how would you define racism? I define it as putting down a group of people or a person as being "evil" or "inferior" because of the color of their skin, which is exactly what Trump has done over and over. Hell even praising another group of people based on the color of their skin is still racism. Judging anybody because of their skin color IS racist.
EDIT: But whatever, it's a big waste of time trying to make people like you see logic. I actually feel sorry for people like you.
I pretty much agree with everything you say here. Not everything, but most. What I disagree with is whether or not Trump has put down anyone due to their race or color of their skin. By your definition, the left is very racist as well. I agree Trump isn't the smoothest talker, but I also look at what he says in context. Take, for example, the example of Trump's racist statement against Mexicans by calling them rapists. I've heard people make that claim over and over. Did he say all Mexican's are rapists? Did he say most Mexican's are rapists? Of course not. He said the Mexican government sends rapists across the border. That is not, in anyway a racist statement. It may not be true, but it's not racist at all.
31 Oct 2018, 4:58 pm
Bataar wrote:
TW1ZTY wrote:
Bataar wrote:
TW1ZTY wrote:
Bataar wrote:
TW1ZTY wrote:
Piobaire wrote:
I mistakenly assumed that my society was too far advanced and my countrymen far too intelligent to replace the first Black president with a racist know-nothing endorsed by the Ku Klux Klan.
Clearly, I overestimated both.
Clearly, I overestimated both.
You're not the only one. Hell I didn't even think it was legal for him to say all this s**t he does about women, hispanics, and black people on TV. If it were anybody else in this country saying those things they would have had so many Civil Rights lawsuits filed against them and their reputation quickly ruined. What exactly makes this guy so untouchable?
What s**t does he say about women, Hispanics and black people on TV?
I feel sorry for anyone who doesn't understand what racism is if they believe anything in that video was actually racist.
He talks about advantages educated black men have. What is racist about that? It's 100% accurate. In corporate America, if two people were applying for a job, a white man and a black man and they were of similar experience and education, the black man would get hired most of the time. It helps the company's diversity numbers. It's just the way things are now and recognizing it is not racist.
So how would you define racism? I define it as putting down a group of people or a person as being "evil" or "inferior" because of the color of their skin, which is exactly what Trump has done over and over. Hell even praising another group of people based on the color of their skin is still racism. Judging anybody because of their skin color IS racist.
EDIT: But whatever, it's a big waste of time trying to make people like you see logic. I actually feel sorry for people like you.
I pretty much agree with everything you say here. Not everything, but most. What I disagree with is whether or not Trump has put down anyone due to their race or color of their skin. By your definition, the left is very racist as well. I agree Trump isn't the smoothest talker, but I also look at what he says in context. Take, for example, the example of Trump's racist statement against Mexicans by calling them rapists. I've heard people make that claim over and over. Did he say all Mexican's are rapists? Did he say most Mexican's are rapists? Of course not. He said the Mexican government sends rapists across the border. That is not, in anyway a racist statement. It may not be true, but it's not racist at all.
I think racism and other forms of prejudice are overall still a very big problem no matter what side you are on.
But speaking of what he said about Mexicans, the way he said "I assume some are good people" leads me to believe that he pretty believes they are bad people, as if there's some possible chance in his own mind that he assumes wrong that any of them are actually good people.
It doesn't take a genius to figure out what he really meant by saying that.
31 Oct 2018, 5:22 pm
TW1ZTY wrote:
Bataar wrote:
TW1ZTY wrote:
Bataar wrote:
TW1ZTY wrote:
Bataar wrote:
TW1ZTY wrote:
Piobaire wrote:
I mistakenly assumed that my society was too far advanced and my countrymen far too intelligent to replace the first Black president with a racist know-nothing endorsed by the Ku Klux Klan.
Clearly, I overestimated both.
Clearly, I overestimated both.
You're not the only one. Hell I didn't even think it was legal for him to say all this s**t he does about women, hispanics, and black people on TV. If it were anybody else in this country saying those things they would have had so many Civil Rights lawsuits filed against them and their reputation quickly ruined. What exactly makes this guy so untouchable?
What s**t does he say about women, Hispanics and black people on TV?
I feel sorry for anyone who doesn't understand what racism is if they believe anything in that video was actually racist.
He talks about advantages educated black men have. What is racist about that? It's 100% accurate. In corporate America, if two people were applying for a job, a white man and a black man and they were of similar experience and education, the black man would get hired most of the time. It helps the company's diversity numbers. It's just the way things are now and recognizing it is not racist.
So how would you define racism? I define it as putting down a group of people or a person as being "evil" or "inferior" because of the color of their skin, which is exactly what Trump has done over and over. Hell even praising another group of people based on the color of their skin is still racism. Judging anybody because of their skin color IS racist.
EDIT: But whatever, it's a big waste of time trying to make people like you see logic. I actually feel sorry for people like you.
I pretty much agree with everything you say here. Not everything, but most. What I disagree with is whether or not Trump has put down anyone due to their race or color of their skin. By your definition, the left is very racist as well. I agree Trump isn't the smoothest talker, but I also look at what he says in context. Take, for example, the example of Trump's racist statement against Mexicans by calling them rapists. I've heard people make that claim over and over. Did he say all Mexican's are rapists? Did he say most Mexican's are rapists? Of course not. He said the Mexican government sends rapists across the border. That is not, in anyway a racist statement. It may not be true, but it's not racist at all.
I think racism and other forms of prejudice are overall still a very big problem no matter what side you are on.
But speaking of what he said about Mexicans, the way he said "I assume some are good people" leads me to believe that he pretty believes they are bad people, as if there's some possible chance in his own mind that he assumes wrong that any of them are actually good people.
It doesn't take a genius to figure out what he really meant by saying that.
Again, we're probably more on the same length than we think. I pretty much agree again. However, what "people" are you saying Trump was talking about? When he said, "I assume some are good people," (I don't recall if that is verbatim or not) again, he was not referring to all Mexicans or even all Mexican immigrants. He was referring to the people he claimed the Mexican government was sending over the border, most of which he claims are criminals. He was trying to say the Mexican government is offloading their criminals by sending them over the border. Again, that might not be true at all, but that's the context. In that context, it's probably safe to assume most of the people wouldn't be "good people".
01 Nov 2018, 3:16 pm
01 Nov 2018, 5:33 pm
Bataar wrote:
TW1ZTY wrote:
Bataar wrote:
TW1ZTY wrote:
Bataar wrote:
TW1ZTY wrote:
Bataar wrote:
TW1ZTY wrote:
Piobaire wrote:
I mistakenly assumed that my society was too far advanced and my countrymen far too intelligent to replace the first Black president with a racist know-nothing endorsed by the Ku Klux Klan.
Clearly, I overestimated both.
Clearly, I overestimated both.
You're not the only one. Hell I didn't even think it was legal for him to say all this s**t he does about women, hispanics, and black people on TV. If it were anybody else in this country saying those things they would have had so many Civil Rights lawsuits filed against them and their reputation quickly ruined. What exactly makes this guy so untouchable?
What s**t does he say about women, Hispanics and black people on TV?
I feel sorry for anyone who doesn't understand what racism is if they believe anything in that video was actually racist.
He talks about advantages educated black men have. What is racist about that? It's 100% accurate. In corporate America, if two people were applying for a job, a white man and a black man and they were of similar experience and education, the black man would get hired most of the time. It helps the company's diversity numbers. It's just the way things are now and recognizing it is not racist.
So how would you define racism? I define it as putting down a group of people or a person as being "evil" or "inferior" because of the color of their skin, which is exactly what Trump has done over and over. Hell even praising another group of people based on the color of their skin is still racism. Judging anybody because of their skin color IS racist.
EDIT: But whatever, it's a big waste of time trying to make people like you see logic. I actually feel sorry for people like you.
I pretty much agree with everything you say here. Not everything, but most. What I disagree with is whether or not Trump has put down anyone due to their race or color of their skin. By your definition, the left is very racist as well. I agree Trump isn't the smoothest talker, but I also look at what he says in context. Take, for example, the example of Trump's racist statement against Mexicans by calling them rapists. I've heard people make that claim over and over. Did he say all Mexican's are rapists? Did he say most Mexican's are rapists? Of course not. He said the Mexican government sends rapists across the border. That is not, in anyway a racist statement. It may not be true, but it's not racist at all.
I think racism and other forms of prejudice are overall still a very big problem no matter what side you are on.
But speaking of what he said about Mexicans, the way he said "I assume some are good people" leads me to believe that he pretty believes they are bad people, as if there's some possible chance in his own mind that he assumes wrong that any of them are actually good people.
It doesn't take a genius to figure out what he really meant by saying that.
Again, we're probably more on the same length than we think. I pretty much agree again. However, what "people" are you saying Trump was talking about? When he said, "I assume some are good people," (I don't recall if that is verbatim or not) again, he was not referring to all Mexicans or even all Mexican immigrants. He was referring to the people he claimed the Mexican government was sending over the border, most of which he claims are criminals. He was trying to say the Mexican government is offloading their criminals by sending them over the border. Again, that might not be true at all, but that's the context. In that context, it's probably safe to assume most of the people wouldn't be "good people".
According to his side preventing illegal immigration is racist . Illegal immigrants come from all races
Muslim van was racist. Muslims are not a race but a religious group of many races. Also he wasn’t banning all Muslims he was banning people from certain Muslim countries with known terrorist not all muslim nations.
They claim because he condemned both extremists at that march he’s racist kkk
Both sides were violent and in the wrong both deserved to be condemned.
They claim he ordered the bombing attacks while he condemns it and launched a man hunt for the person responsible.
They claim he supports terrorist while he orders our military to track and kill terrorists while Obama gave them money and arms.
I don’t believe anything they claim
02 Nov 2018, 10:27 am
sly279 wrote:
Bataar wrote:
TW1ZTY wrote:
Bataar wrote:
TW1ZTY wrote:
Bataar wrote:
TW1ZTY wrote:
Bataar wrote:
TW1ZTY wrote:
Piobaire wrote:
I mistakenly assumed that my society was too far advanced and my countrymen far too intelligent to replace the first Black president with a racist know-nothing endorsed by the Ku Klux Klan.
Clearly, I overestimated both.
Clearly, I overestimated both.
You're not the only one. Hell I didn't even think it was legal for him to say all this s**t he does about women, hispanics, and black people on TV. If it were anybody else in this country saying those things they would have had so many Civil Rights lawsuits filed against them and their reputation quickly ruined. What exactly makes this guy so untouchable?
What s**t does he say about women, Hispanics and black people on TV?
I feel sorry for anyone who doesn't understand what racism is if they believe anything in that video was actually racist.
He talks about advantages educated black men have. What is racist about that? It's 100% accurate. In corporate America, if two people were applying for a job, a white man and a black man and they were of similar experience and education, the black man would get hired most of the time. It helps the company's diversity numbers. It's just the way things are now and recognizing it is not racist.
So how would you define racism? I define it as putting down a group of people or a person as being "evil" or "inferior" because of the color of their skin, which is exactly what Trump has done over and over. Hell even praising another group of people based on the color of their skin is still racism. Judging anybody because of their skin color IS racist.
EDIT: But whatever, it's a big waste of time trying to make people like you see logic. I actually feel sorry for people like you.
I pretty much agree with everything you say here. Not everything, but most. What I disagree with is whether or not Trump has put down anyone due to their race or color of their skin. By your definition, the left is very racist as well. I agree Trump isn't the smoothest talker, but I also look at what he says in context. Take, for example, the example of Trump's racist statement against Mexicans by calling them rapists. I've heard people make that claim over and over. Did he say all Mexican's are rapists? Did he say most Mexican's are rapists? Of course not. He said the Mexican government sends rapists across the border. That is not, in anyway a racist statement. It may not be true, but it's not racist at all.
I think racism and other forms of prejudice are overall still a very big problem no matter what side you are on.
But speaking of what he said about Mexicans, the way he said "I assume some are good people" leads me to believe that he pretty believes they are bad people, as if there's some possible chance in his own mind that he assumes wrong that any of them are actually good people.
It doesn't take a genius to figure out what he really meant by saying that.
Again, we're probably more on the same length than we think. I pretty much agree again. However, what "people" are you saying Trump was talking about? When he said, "I assume some are good people," (I don't recall if that is verbatim or not) again, he was not referring to all Mexicans or even all Mexican immigrants. He was referring to the people he claimed the Mexican government was sending over the border, most of which he claims are criminals. He was trying to say the Mexican government is offloading their criminals by sending them over the border. Again, that might not be true at all, but that's the context. In that context, it's probably safe to assume most of the people wouldn't be "good people".
According to his side preventing illegal immigration is racist . Illegal immigrants come from all races
Muslim van was racist. Muslims are not a race but a religious group of many races. Also he wasn’t banning all Muslims he was banning people from certain Muslim countries with known terrorist not all muslim nations.
They claim because he condemned both extremists at that march he’s racist kkk
Both sides were violent and in the wrong both deserved to be condemned.
They claim he ordered the bombing attacks while he condemns it and launched a man hunt for the person responsible.
They claim he supports terrorist while he orders our military to track and kill terrorists while Obama gave them money and arms.
I don’t believe anything they claim
If we want to do away with all the illegal immigrants I say we start by kicking all the white people out of the U.S.A. and send their asses back to Europe where they came from.
Yeah, I said it.
02 Nov 2018, 10:39 am
TW1ZTY wrote:
If we want to do away with all the illegal immigrants I say we start by kicking all the white people out of the U.S.A. and send their asses back to Europe where they came from.
Yeah, I said it.
Yeah, I said it.
Interesting line of thought. Do you think the American natives were right to fight European colonisation? Or does that make them racist.
02 Nov 2018, 11:05 am
Mikah wrote:
TW1ZTY wrote:
If we want to do away with all the illegal immigrants I say we start by kicking all the white people out of the U.S.A. and send their asses back to Europe where they came from.
Yeah, I said it.
Yeah, I said it.
Interesting line of thought. Do you think the American natives were right to fight European colonisation? Or does that make them racist.
Well considering that we stole their land and commited genocide against their people. Yeah, I'd say so.
02 Nov 2018, 11:53 am
And I always find it ironic whenever I hear white people in the U.S. complain about the illegal immigrants in this country because they themselves are descended from illegal immigrants who came over here from Europe and I do mean illegal immigrants. They came to a country that was not theirs and they took over like roaches and killed or oppressed all of the native people who were already here first and we basically treated them as being subhuman. I do not believe for one second that just because we had better weapons and technology that we had the right to do that to them.
And frankly I think the white colonists were a helluva lot more dangerous to the Native Americans than the illegal immigrants from countries like Mexico. They don't stand a snowball's chance in hell of doing to us what the European settlers did to the Native Americans.
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02 Nov 2018, 12:51 pm
02 Nov 2018, 1:10 pm
TW1ZTY wrote:
And I always find it ironic whenever I hear white people in the U.S. complain about the illegal immigrants in this country because they themselves are descended from illegal immigrants who came over here from Europe and I do mean illegal immigrants. They came to a country that was not theirs and they took over like roaches and killed or oppressed all of the native people who were already here first and we basically treated them as being subhuman. I do not believe for one second that just because we had better weapons and technology that we had the right to do that to them.
And frankly I think the white colonists were a helluva lot more dangerous to the Native Americans than the illegal immigrants from countries like Mexico. They don't stand a snowball's chance in hell of doing to us what the European settlers did to the Native Americans.
And frankly I think the white colonists were a helluva lot more dangerous to the Native Americans than the illegal immigrants from countries like Mexico. They don't stand a snowball's chance in hell of doing to us what the European settlers did to the Native Americans.
The illegal immigrants descended from the same white Europeans.
Hispanics are like 50-70% European.
So, maybe , using your logic, Trump is justified in keeping out these descendents of white Europeans.
Why should we let them in, when native Americans owned this country first?
02 Nov 2018, 1:42 pm
LoveNotHate wrote:
TW1ZTY wrote:
And I always find it ironic whenever I hear white people in the U.S. complain about the illegal immigrants in this country because they themselves are descended from illegal immigrants who came over here from Europe and I do mean illegal immigrants. They came to a country that was not theirs and they took over like roaches and killed or oppressed all of the native people who were already here first and we basically treated them as being subhuman. I do not believe for one second that just because we had better weapons and technology that we had the right to do that to them.
And frankly I think the white colonists were a helluva lot more dangerous to the Native Americans than the illegal immigrants from countries like Mexico. They don't stand a snowball's chance in hell of doing to us what the European settlers did to the Native Americans.
And frankly I think the white colonists were a helluva lot more dangerous to the Native Americans than the illegal immigrants from countries like Mexico. They don't stand a snowball's chance in hell of doing to us what the European settlers did to the Native Americans.
The illegal immigrants descended from the same white Europeans.
Hispanics are like 50-70% European.
So, maybe , using your logic, Trump is justified in keeping out these descendents of white Europeans.
Why should we let them in, when native Americans owned this country first?
Then by that logic we should pack our s**t up and leave the country and go back to Europe too. Not like that's ever gonna happen of course. We stole this country fair and square
And yeah Addams Family Values was teh s**t! I love Wednesday!
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