What Drives Trump Crazy About the Mueller Investigation

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17 Nov 2018, 10:40 pm

The 1 thing that drives Donald Trump totally crazy about the Mueller investigation

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President Donald Trump is a man used to totally controlling his universe.
He was the head -- and most prominent face -- of his Trump business empire. He was the head -- and most prominent face -- of his hit reality TV shows: "The Apprentice" and "The Celebrity Apprentice." In both of those roles, what he said went -- without debate.

The whole aura of Trump is based on the idea that he does what he wants, when he wants. If he wants you fired, you get fired.

All of which brings me to the ongoing investigation by special counsel Robert Mueller into Russia interference in the 2016 presidential campaign and the possibility of collusion between the Russians and members of the Trump campaign. And Trump's clear frustration -- and nervousness(?) -- about it.

Asked about the investigation on Friday, Trump said from the Oval Office: "I'm not agitated. It's a hoax. The whole thing is a hoax. There was no collusion."

But here's what Trump tweeted on Thursday:

"The inner workings of the Mueller investigation are a total mess. They have found no collusion and have gone absolutely nuts. They are screaming and shouting at people, horribly threatening them to come up with the answers they want. They are a disgrace to our Nation and don't care how many lives the ruin. These are Angry People, including the highly conflicted Bob Mueller, who worked for Obama for 8 years. They won't even look at all of the bad acts and crimes on the other side. A TOTAL WITCH HUNT LIKE NO OTHER IN AMERICAN HISTORY!"

It's not clear how Trump obtained information about the "inner workings" of the Mueller investigation given that special counsel's office has been tight-lipped about its approach -- only occasionally revealing something when a plea agreement is reached or when someone like Paul Manafort faces trial based on what Mueller's team uncovered. Given Trump's track record with the truth -- and his fixation on the idea that Mueller is conducting a witch hunt (even though he's not) -- the possibility certainly exists that Trump made up his alleged insider information about the Mueller probe.
The broader context here speaks to Trump's ever-mounting frustration with his inability to control the Mueller probe. We know -- thanks to CNN reporting -- that Trump spent several hours this week huddled with his attorneys going over written answers to questions that the Mueller team had submitted to the White House regarding the 2016 campaign.

That Trump's tweet on Mueller came after that intense period of question-answering provides our clearest evidence yet that Trump's anger and impatience is bubbling over. But it's far from the only sign.

The biggest indicator of Trump desperately trying to seize control of the uncontrollable came last Wednesday when Trump finally fired his long-maligned Attorney General Jeff Sessions. Trump had never forgiven Sessions for recusing himself from the FBI investigation into Russian interference; in Trump's mind, that decision by Sessions led to the formation of the special counsel and all of the problems Mueller's investigation has caused within Trump's administration. The firing of Sessions, however, was not the big news -- that was Trump's decision to bypass Deputy Attorney General Rod Rosenstein, who was overseeing the Mueller investigation, and instead name Matthew Whitaker as acting attorney general.

Suddenly, a public critic of the Mueller probe almost since its inception was in charge of its operations. (That Whitaker, who has not been confirmed by the Senate, is now in charge of people like Rosenstein, who does have Senate confirmation, is a also a potential legal hurdle.) And not only that, but Whitaker was selected over Rosenstein, who had been publicly supportive of Mueller and the probe generally.

Trump himself has also grown more and more boastful about what he could do to Mueller and the probe -- if he so chose. "I could fire everybody right now, but I don't want to stop it because politically I don't like stopping it," Trump said last week in the wake of the 2018 midterm elections (more on that in a minute). "It's a disgrace. It should never have been started, because there is no crime."

That's not technically accurate. The only person who could fire Mueller is the attorney general. So Trump could tell Whitaker to fire Mueller and, in theory, Whitaker could do that. (Whitaker has given no public indication whether he would be willing to follow that order from Trump.) There are legal and political issues that would naturally flow from such a move -- among them the question of whether Mueller can be fired without obvious cause and how Republicans (and Democrats) in Congress would react to the special counsel's investigation being ended.
Trump knows all of this. Which is what leads to his frustration. He's boxed in. He can't do what he wants to do. (Remember that Trump already tried to remove Mueller but was thwarted when then-White House counsel Donald McGahn refused to carry out the order.) He has no operational control over this situation.
When asked Friday about his latest tweets about Mueller, Trump said tellingly: "I like to take everything personally, because you do better that way."

Trump, when cornered, is at his most dangerous -- to his political opponents and, candidly, to himself. He lashes out. He veers even further from established truth and facts.

In short: The longer the Mueller probe continues, the more likely Trump is to say or do something with potentially cataclysmic impact on his administration (and the investigation). All outward signs indicate he's getting closer and closer to that sort of point of no return.



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19 Nov 2018, 1:55 am

Trump hasn't stopped the witch hunt because it IS a witch hunt. When he is found innocent, the liberals will probably investigate Mueller and the rest of his team and his limo driver and his mother and his father and his dentist and his barber and his...


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19 Nov 2018, 2:23 am

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Trump hasn't stopped the witch hunt because it IS a witch hunt. When he is found innocent, the liberals will probably investigate Mueller and the rest of his team and his limo driver and his mother and his father and his dentist and his barber and his...

If it is a witch hunt Trump will not be found innocent.


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19 Nov 2018, 2:31 am

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If it is a witch hunt Trump will not be found innocent.
Good point.


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25 Nov 2018, 8:41 pm

You liberals should be aware that Papadopolus' lawyer(s) filed a case that claims that Mueller's appointment was unconstitutional because he wasn't confirmed by the senate. This is the same law that you guys wanna get Whittaker with. However the court rules for 1 they will likely rule for the other. So be careful what you wish for.

But I don't understand something. Weren't Ken Starr(and other special prosecutors) appointed the same way as Mueller? :?


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26 Nov 2018, 1:35 am

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Trump hasn't stopped the witch hunt because it IS a witch hunt. When he is found innocent, the liberals will probably investigate Mueller and the rest of his team and his limo driver and his mother and his father and his dentist and his barber and his...


To be found innocent, one has to actually be innocent. Or at least have a damn good lawyer - - which is unlikely with the caliber of Trump's defense.


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26 Nov 2018, 4:38 am

Haven't the first clue as to whether he is guilty of something or not, but if there is a suggestion of something not quite right then an investigation should happen and the people conducting it should be left alone to get on with it.

Trump wails about it so much it makes me wonder if he is guilty of something.



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26 Nov 2018, 5:36 am

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Haven't the first clue as to whether he is guilty of something or not, but if there is a suggestion of something not quite right then an investigation should happen and the people conducting it should be left alone to get on with it.

Trump wails about it so much it makes me wonder if he is guilty of something.


Display of consciousness of guilt.


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26 Nov 2018, 8:11 am

It's driving pretty much everyone crazy because it's just a road to nowhere. Mueller should be investigated for his role in the Iraq war. There's zero evidence of 'collusion'. It's a joke.


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26 Nov 2018, 3:28 pm

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It's driving pretty much everyone crazy because it's just a road to nowhere. Mueller should be investigated for his role in the Iraq war. There's zero evidence of 'collusion'. It's a joke.



Mueller's indictments and convictions of Trump henchmen says otherwise.


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26 Nov 2018, 5:34 pm

Stop repeating the same nonsense please. I don't want to have to keep repeating myself.


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26 Nov 2018, 8:05 pm

JohnPowell wrote:
Stop repeating the same nonsense please. I don't want to have to keep repeating myself.


It's not nonsense.
Then don't repeat yourself.


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27 Nov 2018, 3:21 am

We'll know when it is all over whether there is guilt or not. Until then we simply don't have all the information that the investigation team do so wouldn't know.



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02 Dec 2018, 11:21 pm

Kraichgauer wrote:
JohnPowell wrote:
It's driving pretty much everyone crazy because it's just a road to nowhere. Mueller should be investigated for his role in the Iraq war. There's zero evidence of 'collusion'. It's a joke.



Mueller's indictments and convictions of Trump henchmen says otherwise.
Most of them have fallen into perjury traps. For example: Jerome Corsi was asked if he sent an email to somebody and said he didn't. The next day the FBI showed him an e-mail he sent 2 years ago to that somebody. He was charged with lying to the FBI because he forgot about the email. Who the hell remembers e-mails they sent 2 years ago?! That's how desperate Mueller is because he has no evidence. He's trying to scare people in to making up incriminating stuff about Trump.

Don't you people watch Law & Order? When they're looking for a murderer they often find drug addicts or dealers or other lower level criminals (who had nothing to do with the murder) and tell them "We don't care about you, just tell us where the murderer is, or the lower level criminal is arrested and given a deal in exchange for giving up the murderer. All the people that have been charged by Mueller are the equivalent of drug addicts in a murder investigation who had nothing to do with the murder.

If Mueller had any evidence, he wouldn't have to do this. He wouldn't have to question Trump either. Everybody knows you only interrogate a suspect when you don't have enough evidence to charge them.


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02 Dec 2018, 11:24 pm

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We'll know when it is all over whether there is guilt or not. Until then we simply don't have all the information that the investigation team do so wouldn't know.
Do you really believe its possible for any bombshell evidence against Trump to not get leaked? Seriously?


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02 Dec 2018, 11:32 pm

Heat844 wrote:
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JohnPowell wrote:
It's driving pretty much everyone crazy because it's just a road to nowhere. Mueller should be investigated for his role in the Iraq war. There's zero evidence of 'collusion'. It's a joke.



Mueller's indictments and convictions of Trump henchmen says otherwise.
Most of them have fallen into perjury traps. For example: Jerome Corsi was asked if he sent an email to somebody and said he didn't. The next day the FBI showed him an e-mail he sent 2 years ago to that somebody. He was charged with lying to the FBI because he forgot about the email. Who the hell remembers e-mails they sent 2 years ago?! That's how desperate Mueller is because he has no evidence. He's trying to scare people in to making up incriminating stuff about Trump.

Don't you people watch Law & Order? When they're looking for a murderer they often find drug addicts or dealers or other lower level criminals (who had nothing to do with the murder) and tell them "We don't care about you, just tell us where the murderer is, or the lower level criminal is arrested and given a deal in exchange for giving up the murderer. All the people that have been charged by Mueller are the equivalent of drug addicts in a murder investigation who had nothing to do with the murder.

If Mueller had any evidence, he wouldn't have to do this. He wouldn't have to question Trump either. Everybody knows you only interrogate a suspect when you don't have enough evidence to charge them.


Of course Mueller is going through lessers to reach Trump. It's common among prosecutors, and hardly means he doesn't have anything.


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