More Thought on Incels.

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Not likely. He has too many good lawyers who'd use the "insanity" defense. And the Democrat Party owns the national TV; they wouldn't go after their own guy.

But seriously, you have no idea how fun those Q parties were. Crowds of friendly people hugging, dancing, touching each other, and enjoying human closeness, while everyone around them isolates themselves at home and pretends to feel happy about it. Come to think of it, it was like my cruises: a floating island of nonstop fun in vast, dark, empty ocean.

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https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles ... -quicktake

Do you really believe this crap?

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In ancient times it was about survival. The Steppe grassland in central Europe and scandanavian mountains were never going to sustain large populations. The poor soils and reliance on horse breed people who were hardy and warlike. Part time pastoralists and part time pillagers. The bronze age created technology to develop powerful weapons and was the perfect time to pour out of these regions and the philosophy of the "koryos" where young men's rite of passage was to join war bands. Every single ancient Indo-European tribe (without exception) followed this path. If they succeeded then they pillaged neighbouring tribes they took the women as war booty. If they failed then they starved and died off in some obscure empty place as they were not welcome back by the tribe (this is actually classically captured in the tales of Spartan women folk who told their men they would drive them off or kill them if they came back defeated from a war party).

Well, I just have to say I am glad that my brothers are not incels. They got their flaws for sure, but I think they have both turned out to be good men and seem to attract some women. They aren't alphas, they don't even really believe in that stuff they are just individuals who are themselves and don't concern themselves too much with what other people think of it.

I think what gets the girls in their cases are, they present as interesting...and say interesting things. but two totally different looks my youngest 19 year old brother as I said kinda has that like 'chad' look but not so severe like mostly its just he has his hair short and wears kinda normie clothes but still he does it like stylishly and he does not have that attitude he's just a chill guy. Then my other younger brother that is in his 20's probabably looks like he should be in Motley Crue or something and well girls like that to...I think he also likes it more than he lets on when people comment how good he looks, like he may be more vain than most girls...but that's my brother and I love him the way he is.

But of course that is also why I have to laugh when people act like make-up can only be for women and gay guys...he wears make up better than a lot of women and is very much straight. So idk my brothers are being themselves and seems they can get girlfriends.

Without even consciously realizing it, you're proving my point.

Some men died in war, meaning less competition for the surviving men in finding a woman back home. Other men had their selection of women from the tribes they conquered. Defeated survivors were outright ostracized and shut-out by the women back home. Yes, women were indeed a driving force behind war.

Not judging your brothers but you end up being an alpha male by default if you are socially and economically successful and carry some type of social power. It's not just pulling chicks.

re: whether its the men or women who are driving war....its really a chicken-egg situation.

I stand by what I said, if your village on the steppe can only sustain a couple of ponies a cow and a few people then you have no choice but to cast out your boys to seek new lands, slaves and plunder.

This system also worked for east Asian cultures (the mongols were driven by similar needs).

One of the only people who never engaged in warfare in the history of mankind are the Indus Valley civilisation (modern India) which was the world's first mercantile settlement of traders who also had no heirarchy and spent their efforts developing things like broad scale agriculture, irrigation works, sea harbours, shipping, advanced trade techniques (first weights measurements, good seals) urban planning, underground drainage, pumped water and even upstairs plumbing. They also had a matriarchal society (South India remains one of the few regions in the world to maintain female led societies).

Here's why I'd disagree. Think of the potato, a new-world crop from the Americas. Imported to Ireland sometime in the 1500s, it became a cheap and easy crop for peasants to grow and added needed substance and nutrients to their diet, which led to higher birthrates. This, in turn, led to a population explosion. When the crop failed in the mid-1800s, the Irish didn't go to war...they didn't really have that ability. What did they do? Many died, but others emigrated...mainly to Britain, America, Canada, even Australia and other places.

Same is true when we look at the Great Migrations into Europe in the latter days of the Roman Empire. Even today, it can be argued, we're seeing mass migrations of people looking for resources, but without resorting to warfare.

In tribal warfare, as important as resources are, access to women was indeed the key. Whether it be not being rejected by local women for being a coward; not being killed and having a smaller competition field upon returning home from war (as other men had died, meaning more available women); or taking the women of conquered tribes as brides, warfare was very much centered on men's access to available women.

The Irish had no choice. My brother-in-law is Irish and the primary driver for their exodus was escaping poverty and the English, not unlink the Israelites escaping the tyranny of the Egyptian Pharaoh.

Many of the people who fled Europe were being persecuted by the others e.g. The irish, Jews etc. The ruling class in Europe had no interest in coming to the new world except to expand their business interests and landholdings. The claim of wanting to create a new utopia in these lands was not really true, this is exemplified in the wild west where it was every man (and woman) for themselves. Many of the descendants of those early migrants forgot why their ancestors escaped and became the new unpopular ruling class in the countries they came to.

Check out Maslows heirarchy of needs. Food and shelter and an ability to sustain some level of power are primary drivers for men. Women come maybe 4th on that list.

Well that is what I am saying they aren't even alphas, they just have personalities and turns out girls love a good personality.

And for a lot of dumb as*holes it does seem like it is all about pulling chicks but just never planning to do anything more than a one night stand with them. Like Aspie one talking up the red pill even thouugh with all the stuff of how successful it should make people he only has sex via escorts or one night stands. Someday he'll be sick of all that and regret he was so against ever finding a woman who'd want to be a longer term partner he won't be 31 forever regardless of if he thinks he should be. Like at some point we all get past the party days, I think I am kind of past the party days. I'd rather just trip shrooms with a few people than go to a party these days like partying isn't all people say it is...for some of us its jsut a big hassle. And we are the ones who steal away from the party to get far enough away to smoke pot and s**t to make the party more tolerable. That is how you get through a family gathering lots of pot and finding opportune moments to hide and smoke.

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Don't dispute that. But it helps when you are part of a network of people who as friends support and mentor each other.
I think a lot of young men don't have anyone to guide them and end up in highschool hanging out with other guys who are in the same boat as them and don't know how to talk to girls. By the time they leave school it becomes really really hard to make new friends from scratch if you don't know what you are doing.

There's lots of NT females who also do one night stands.

Well yes and some women like to do those, but it helps if one knows that is what it is, and isn't tricked into thinking it will be more than that by some as*hole.

LIke jeeze it was real romantic when a guy who swore he'd take care of things for the night sent me out at 5 in the morning to go catch a bus home after he implied I could go home and like presumably sleep at their place for a bit...so yeah I was pretty suprised when it got early in the morning they threw me out and were like 'ok good night' when like that meant I was trapped downtown with no way home for at at least an hour after getting locked out of their place because they opened the door said 'there you go' and immeadiatly went back in and locked the door. For sure that felt sh***y after wasting half the night talking to the dude who just turned out to be a dumb douchbag jsut leading me on just so he could throw me out after talking up how he'd take care of me, and it was all good cause he could get me a ride home in the morning...all so he could just kick me out at 5 in the morning and wish me a good morning as if he didn't remember inviting me over and I could stay till the morning and he'd actually help with the bus in the morning. Nah, as soon as he felt like getting into bed he just made me feel akward till he said like 'oh yeah you can't stay here' It was like oh thanks for making me walk all the way out of the bus route for a promise you'd help me get home and then just kicked me out after I got no sleep...real cool. I am glad you got sleep and were able to just tell me 'by the way f**k you get out of my house' like why did you invite me anyways if you're just a piece of s**t.

Reproduction is one of the physiological needs at the very base of the pyramid. Again, without even realizing it, you prove my point.

I see.


I'm sorry that happened. But, hey, at least he had a good personality!

No it isn't. The reproductive system is the only body system unnecessary for the survival of the individual organism.