13 Jun 2019, 8:03 pm
13 Jun 2019, 8:10 pm
funeralxempire wrote:
The courts can demand a settlement, but they can't insist that students ever give their patronage to the business again. In the long run justice likely will prevail. 
That's true. There will always be a few racist students and college administrators who won't patronize this shop because of the color of the owner's skin. But they will probably be overwhelmed by the non-racist general public, as well as those who now want to show extra support for an honorable local business that has been hounded and threatened by racist mobs. So yes, justice will likely prevail.
13 Jun 2019, 8:12 pm
ASPartOfMe wrote:
Why are we even asking this question on a autism forum where most of the members have faced negative consequences from being misinterpreted and often discuss crippling anxiety, a constant feeling of walking on eggshells out of fear being misinterprated.
Egggggggg-zactly! Oops, I shouldn't mention 'eggs', or even hint at them, because that leads to the expression 'walking on eggshells' (which you also mentioned), but that in turn leads inevitably to snowf... I mean, "sensitive people" being offended, because you are subtly implying they don't have a thick skin (which can be referred to as anything but white - all other colours are okay though), and that is an implied criticism of their level of tolerance for reality, and is also a subtle criticism of their need for safe spaces.
Holy crap, we've raised an entire generation of entitled, hyper-sensitive, out-of-touch idiots. ASPartOfMe, you are absolutely right about this even being an issue on an AUTISM website! The number of times I've "offended" someone are too many to recall, and I'll be DAMNED if I ever cave in to the cretinous demands of these precious snowflakes! Hell no!
Over my dead, effing body! You will NEVER shut me up!On a lighter note, I too am dreaming of a white, pure, Klan-inspired Christmas.
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14 Jun 2019, 1:21 am
funeralxempire wrote:
Darmok wrote:
^ This was a very good verdict. Oberlin College officials were basically running a Ku Klux Klan-type operation of threats and intimidation, trying to destroy a local business.
The jury is today deliberating in the punitive damages phase. We shall see if there is any further award.
The jury is today deliberating in the punitive damages phase. We shall see if there is any further award.
The courts can demand a settlement, but they can't insist that students ever give their patronage to the business again. In the long run justice likely will prevail.
Justice prevailed. The percentage of blacks arrested for shoplifting the percentage of blacks in Oberlin. The market will also prevail. If students continue to boycott the store based on false information, their loss. If the boycott continues it would be wise for the bakery and most of the other business in town to pack up and go somewhere more hospitable.
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14 Jun 2019, 1:43 am
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ASPartOfMe wrote:
Why are we even asking this question on a autism forum where most of the members have faced negative consequences from being misinterpreted and often discuss crippling anxiety, a constant feeling of walking on eggshells out of fear being misinterprated.
Egggggggg-zactly! Oops, I shouldn't mention 'eggs', or even hint at them, because that leads to the expression 'walking on eggshells' (which you also mentioned), but that in turn leads inevitably to snowf... I mean, "sensitive people" being offended, because you are subtly implying they don't have a thick skin (which can be referred to as anything but white - all other colours are okay though), and that is an implied criticism of their level of tolerance for reality, and is also a subtle criticism of their need for safe spaces.
Holy crap, we've raised an entire generation of entitled, hyper-sensitive, out-of-touch idiots. ASPartOfMe, you are absolutely right about this even being an issue on an AUTISM website! The number of times I've "offended" someone are too many to recall, and I'll be DAMNED if I ever cave in to the cretinous demands of these precious snowflakes! Hell no!
Over my dead, effing body! You will NEVER shut me up!On a lighter note, I too am dreaming of a white, pure, Klan-inspired Christmas.
Why would it not be politically correct to use “snowflake”? “Snowflake” is implying white is a negative. If Frosty the Snowman is offended he needs to check his privilege.
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14 Jun 2019, 4:08 am
Darmok wrote:
funeralxempire wrote:
The courts can demand a settlement, but they can't insist that students ever give their patronage to the business again. In the long run justice likely will prevail.
That's true. There will always be a few racist students and college administrators who won't patronize this shop because of the color of the owner's skin. But they will probably be overwhelmed by the non-racist general public, as well as those who now want to show extra support for an honorable local business that has been hounded and threatened by racist mobs. So yes, justice will likely prevail.
It isn't racist to be under the impression that you've been unfairly treated. Perhaps you're just dishonestly dropping the word racism to sound like somehow the owner of the store's race would be the reason some people might have felt unfairly profiled over the years and that clearly only the business owner is entitled to have a valid opinion about whether or not he's profiled anyone over the years.
I can't say for certain whether or not the owner unfairly profiles some customers and neither can you. I get the feeling the people who actually have been in the business have a better idea of whether or not the owner is biased than some schmuck from the internet who's never even been inside of the store.
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14 Jun 2019, 4:11 am
ASPartOfMe wrote:
funeralxempire wrote:
Darmok wrote:
^ This was a very good verdict. Oberlin College officials were basically running a Ku Klux Klan-type operation of threats and intimidation, trying to destroy a local business.
The jury is today deliberating in the punitive damages phase. We shall see if there is any further award.
The jury is today deliberating in the punitive damages phase. We shall see if there is any further award.
The courts can demand a settlement, but they can't insist that students ever give their patronage to the business again. In the long run justice likely will prevail.
Justice prevailed. The percentage of blacks arrested for shoplifting the percentage of blacks in Oberlin. The market will also prevail. If students continue to boycott the store based on false information, their loss. If the boycott continues it would be wise for the bakery and most of the other business in town to pack up and go somewhere more hospitable.
Translation: If they continue to believe their own perspectives they deserve to be punished. A bunch of people with no experience with the business owner have insisted the business owner wasn't racist, how dare anyone disagree.
14 Jun 2019, 4:46 am
Lintar wrote:
On a lighter note, I too am dreaming of a white, pure, Klan-inspired Christmas.
Pretty sure Bing Crosby was think of this when he sang that iconic tune
https://www.ticketfly.com/event/1585634 ... acramento/
My parents loved this song
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14 Jun 2019, 7:14 am
funeralxempire wrote:
ASPartOfMe wrote:
funeralxempire wrote:
Darmok wrote:
^ This was a very good verdict. Oberlin College officials were basically running a Ku Klux Klan-type operation of threats and intimidation, trying to destroy a local business.
The jury is today deliberating in the punitive damages phase. We shall see if there is any further award.
The jury is today deliberating in the punitive damages phase. We shall see if there is any further award.
The courts can demand a settlement, but they can't insist that students ever give their patronage to the business again. In the long run justice likely will prevail.
Justice prevailed. The percentage of blacks arrested for shoplifting the percentage of blacks in Oberlin. The market will also prevail. If students continue to boycott the store based on false information, their loss. If the boycott continues it would be wise for the bakery and most of the other business in town to pack up and go somewhere more hospitable.
Translation: If they continue to believe their own perspectives they deserve to be punished. A bunch of people with no experience with the business owner have insisted the business owner wasn't racist, how dare anyone disagree.
Not receiving services one chose not to receive is not punishment. My poor choices usually have negative consequences. I either learn from my mistakes or I do not causing myself more negative consequences. This is life.
The people one should feel sorry for is the Oberlin students who did not participate in the boycott who will now presumably be paying higher tuition for a degraded education.
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