Do those of you living with parents in late 20s+ consider?
Do those of you living with parents in late 20s+ ever consider what comes next? Your parents aren't going to be around forever, and you'll probably outlive them, so what, you're just going to live with them until they pass and then on top of dealing with the loss of your parent/s you'll need to learn to be independent quick-smart? Not a great strategy.
A parent's job, as described by Dr Phil, is to prepare their children for the next stage of life. If you can never live independently due to a physical disability, mental disorders or whatever else, and you'll need constant disability care even after your parents are long gone, I'm not talking about you, but if you have the capacity to move out, but lack the will and allow complacency to stop you, then one of these days you're going to have to step up, and the longer you put it off, the less time you give yourself to plan, the harder it's going to be. Obviously it's not viable for everyone to move out at a moment's notice, but at least if you're thinking about it and considering what you need to do and have to move out, how you'd go about it, etc then you'll be more prepared for when it actually happens, and you'll be prepared to make it happen rather than have it be forced onto you via unpleasant circumstances.
I'm sure you're going to hear a lot of whining about "it's too expensive in my area," etc. No limit on the number of excuses.
I give EzraS a lot of credit for taking this next step - and I also give him a lot of credit for empathizing with his parents and doing a caring thing for their sake. Good for you, Ezra.
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It is expensive to live on your own, but it's cheaper to flat share and tgat gives you a bit of autonomy.
I'd rather be skint and living on my own than live with my parents. I have so much more freedom. I can watch what I want on tv. Cook what I fancy.
You also learn a lot about what really are needs and wants when you pay your own way and you learn how to budget which serves you well in later life.
Ezra,
Good luck to you in the future! You have made a brave step and are planning well. I hope that you will be treated well.
Grand Inquisitor,
You make a good point. Just because a person still lives at home doesn't mean they aren't planning for the future. I think about it every day. Independence isn't just where you live, but a state of mind. There are many people who don't live in their parents' home who regularly ask for money or other assistance when they're in trouble. How are these people better than a person who still lives with one or more parents who is planning for the future? My level of functioning has vastly improved in just six short years. I plan to do even more.
My brother wants my help to move my mother out her home that they have been living in 40 years now that she can't live without his assistance. She no longer drives so she expects him to buy the food. I've asked my friends and they they think it is his problem. I moved far, far away over 30 years ago. She doesn't want to anywhere so I'm not helping him out unless she changes her mind.
When did you visit last? She may be in need of Assisted Living or Memory Care; if that's the case, then he certainly can't care for her adequately. And many people with dementia do NOT want to leave their familiar home; but that does not mean they are safe living there.
Just another angle for you to consider.
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If they don't, I call for a mass beat-up
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Yes, I do think about what comes next, very much. As it stands, I already feel like a huge burden to my family. Why don't I move out, then? Not for lack of desire or motivation, that's for sure. Presently I'm trying to get my depression to a manageable point and also working on learning the basic life skills I'd need to live on my own. But the biggest problem has been getting a job I could possibly support myself on. I've applied to place after place after place, both part time and full time and yes, including crappy minimum-wage jobs that supposedly "everyone" can get, and I can count the number of places I've heard a thing back from on one hand. The only two jobs I've managed to get were part-time cleaning jobs (one I lost when the company was sold, the other I had to quit when my depression got so bad I ended up in the hospital multiple times) - and I wasn't even close to being able to afford the cheapest apartment I could find. Also, I don't think I could drive safely due to focus/attention issues (a tendency to zone out no matter how hard I may try not to, and any sort of movement instantly draws my eye, like a bird flying across the road or someone jogging on the sidewalk - my eyes would be there instead of on the road, purely reflexively), and we don't have good public transportation around here.
But as for what comes next... well, I've had depression and little to no desire to live for thirteen years with no indication of that changing, so assuming I still want to (and am still alive), I've decided that once my parents are no longer here to be hurt by it, I can go ahead and kill myself.
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Yet in my new wildness and freedom I almost welcome the bitterness of alienage. For although nepenthe has calmed me, I know always that I am an outsider; a stranger in this century and among those who are still men.
-H. P. Lovecraft, "The Outsider"
This is a very good point. Many autistics' environment growing up is not conducive to the kind of independent-thinking that the OP is advocating. Not only do some parents treat their disabled kids like children and seek to keep them in that position, but many Aspies miss key milestones that cultivate independence early on, which stunts the development of independent mindsets. I was kept out of mainstream schools because of my issues and couldn't learn to drive at the proper age, limiting my opportunities to create space between myself and my family. I don't think it's a stretch to say that this has affected me long-term; at twenty I'm definitely behind my peers in terms of independence. Make no mistake, I'm trying desperately to do something about it, it just doesn't come naturally the way it does to NTs and Aspies who have grown up mainstream.
To illustrate further, I know an Aspie who still lives with his parents. He isn't slacking. He's in an abusive relationship with his guardian, who treats him like a toddler while taking his paycheck. I don't know how many people on this forum are in a similar situation, but I'd hate to knock them down when they're virtually trapped in a dependent mindset. It takes help from the outside to overcome something like that.
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