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13 Jan 2019, 10:27 pm

I am. Aren't any of you?



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13 Jan 2019, 11:12 pm

Sure I like theories about what could have happened differently. What if Hitler died as a child. Or if he had known ahead of time about the Normandy invasion. What if Kennedy hadn't been in Dallis 11/22.



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13 Jan 2019, 11:18 pm

I'm so done with history. I'd rather concentrate on the present. :wtg:



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13 Jan 2019, 11:21 pm

There were a number of planned asassination attempts upon Hitler; one of the most well-documented was called ‘Project Valkyrie’.

Some very high ranking Nazis were involved.

When the attempt failed, my understanding is that everyone involved or even suspected to have known, was killed.

If they had not failed......


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13 Jan 2019, 11:30 pm

I have to admit I wonder what would have happened if the Confederacy won the American Civil War and the south succeeded in breaking free from the Union.

Would slavery have eventually been abolished once the south no longer saw a need for it? Also would they have done better for themselves shipping their crops to other countries without having to pay additional taxes to the US government? Maybe they wouldn't be such an impoverished area like they are today.

But like I said before I don't care about that ret*d Civil War anymore. It happened over a century ago and you'd think that Americans would be able to let it go.

I'd rather focus on what is happening now.



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14 Jan 2019, 12:12 am

I believe that we must acknowledge history.

Churchill said ‘Those who will not learn from history are doomed to repeat it’.

Three black men were just last week released from a Southern prison and the charges dropped, the accusations FINALLY admitted to be false.

They were locked up for fifty years.

For a false rape charge.


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14 Jan 2019, 12:14 am

Sylkat wrote:
I believe that we must acknowledge history.

Churchill said ‘Those who will not learn from history are doomed to repeat it’.

Three black men were just last week released from a Southern prison and the charges dropped, the accusations FINALLY admitted to be false.

They were locked up for fifty years.

For a false rape charge.


People who learn from history are doomed to repeat it too. There is no escaping it.



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14 Jan 2019, 12:15 am

Oh and history is always written by the victor so that basically means history tends to stretch the truth about what really happened.



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14 Jan 2019, 2:26 am

I've always liked stories about parallel alternate Earths where things are similar but different from our own, due to history unfolding differently there. The tv show Fringe was about that. 9/11 never happened. The Statue of Liberty is polished copoper and the headquarters for something. Money has different portraits. There's different political system. All because George Washington got run over by an ice cream truck when he was 5 years old. (ok i made that last part up).



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14 Jan 2019, 9:09 am

Dylanperr wrote:
Anyone Interested In Alternate History?
Yes, and it's called "Speculative Fiction".



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14 Jan 2019, 1:50 pm

Washington could have died when the cherry tree he chopped fell on him.

Lincoln could have simply been not in the mood for a night out, and told Mary to take one of her friends instead.


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14 Jan 2019, 2:08 pm

Sylkat wrote:
Washington could have died when the cherry tree he chopped fell on him.

Lincoln could have simply been not in the mood for a night out, and told Mary to take one of her friends instead.

And Thomas Jefferson could have never had a case of "jungle fever". :P



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14 Jan 2019, 2:19 pm

Read Stephen King's novel 11/22/63 if you have not done so yet. It is speculative about what the world would be like had the assassination of JFK been avoided.

It was made into a mini-series in 2016 with James Franco in the lead role.


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14 Jan 2019, 2:23 pm

Wonder what would happen if the white settlers never took over the lands that belonged to the Native Americans? What would Amuuurica be like today? :chin:



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14 Jan 2019, 2:37 pm

^ America would no doubt have been a far better place for wildlife, and the American species on the brink would likely not have been so today; Europe OTOH would've been worse off, as all the people who emigrated, made it easier (more opportunities) and less crowded for those who were left.

EzraS wrote:
I've always liked stories about parallel alternate Earths where things are similar but different from our own, due to history unfolding differently there.

I like them too. You might like the series "Sliders".


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14 Jan 2019, 3:00 pm

Skilpadde wrote:
^ America would no doubt have been a far better place for wildlife, and the American species on the brink would likely not have been so today; Europe OTOH would've been worse off, as all the people who emigrated, made it easier (more opportunities) and less crowded for those who were left.


About what I figured myself, and it's a real pity. As horrible as it was it does feel a bit like a "us or them" mentality.

And the earth is so overpopulated and there are no more new lands to discover. The human species is doomed.