Incels in Canadian news
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Why incels are a 'real and present threat' for Canadians
https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/incel-th ... -1.4992184
I just watched the program, it was good but I felt like they didn't spend enough time with the subject. Also I would have liked to see the reaction of the guy who made that horrible song about Alek Minassian, if the CBC could have gotten someone who survived Minassian's attack to talk to the guy who made the song saying he wanted to "run over all those b*****s like Alek Minassian", so he would be forced to recognize the humanity of the victims of the violence he was promoting. Maybe they tried and no one was willing, they don't say--but I think it's important to humanize women and victims of violence to these guys who participate in these violent forums, to prompt them to empathize (if they are capable of empathy) and help move them away from the violently misogynistic incel ideology.
I'd like to see that piece of human garbage try to justify his song and the sentiment behind it to the grandmother who lost her legs because Alek Minassian crushed them with his van. I would have paid good money to see him confronted with reality in that way.
Whatta buncha messed-up losers, eh?
Lucky for us there's no one like that around here, right?
Right?
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Interesting article.
Their threat level is bigger than the zero some believe it is, but I don't think it's very high.
The 120 far right incidents of violence vs. 7 islamic inspired ones was an interesting stat. Makes me wonder how many of those are incel related, as well as what all the rest are. (My guess is mostly racism.)
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Their threat level is bigger than the zero some believe it is, but I don't think it's very high.
The 120 far right incidents of violence vs. 7 islamic inspired ones was an interesting stat. Makes me wonder how many of those are incel related, as well as what all the rest are. (My guess is mostly racism.)
I wonder what the correlation is with domestic violence too, because a lot of these "lone wolf" shooters lately (the last handful or so that have happened in the states anyway) seem to have domestic violence elements, or the shooters have a history of charges like stalking and harassment. Might be a key to finding these guys and getting them off the streets sooner before they kill people, if law enforcement and the justice system took those kinds of charges more seriously and actually put guys in jail for them instead of getting a slap on the wrist like they usually get when they violate a restraining order or smack their wife around the first few times, before they ultimately snap and start killing which a not insignificant number of them seem to do. There seems to often be a clear pattern of escalation where law enforcement could have made a difference and didn't.
goldfish21
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Their threat level is bigger than the zero some believe it is, but I don't think it's very high.
The 120 far right incidents of violence vs. 7 islamic inspired ones was an interesting stat. Makes me wonder how many of those are incel related, as well as what all the rest are. (My guess is mostly racism.)
I wonder what the correlation is with domestic violence too, because a lot of these "lone wolf" shooters lately (the last handful or so that have happened in the states anyway) seem to have domestic violence elements, or the shooters have a history of charges like stalking and harassment. Might be a key to finding these guys and getting them off the streets sooner before they kill people, if law enforcement and the justice system took those kinds of charges more seriously and actually put guys in jail for them instead of getting a slap on the wrist like they usually get when they violate a restraining order or smack their wife around the first few times, before they ultimately snap and start killing which a not insignificant number of them seem to do. There seems to often be a clear pattern of escalation where law enforcement could have made a difference and didn't.
Hindsight is always 20/20. Cops can't arrest someone for a crime they think they might commit in the future.
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No for supporting trump. Because doing so is deplorable.
Their threat level is bigger than the zero some believe it is, but I don't think it's very high.
The 120 far right incidents of violence vs. 7 islamic inspired ones was an interesting stat. Makes me wonder how many of those are incel related, as well as what all the rest are. (My guess is mostly racism.)
I wonder what the correlation is with domestic violence too, because a lot of these "lone wolf" shooters lately (the last handful or so that have happened in the states anyway) seem to have domestic violence elements, or the shooters have a history of charges like stalking and harassment. Might be a key to finding these guys and getting them off the streets sooner before they kill people, if law enforcement and the justice system took those kinds of charges more seriously and actually put guys in jail for them instead of getting a slap on the wrist like they usually get when they violate a restraining order or smack their wife around the first few times, before they ultimately snap and start killing which a not insignificant number of them seem to do. There seems to often be a clear pattern of escalation where law enforcement could have made a difference and didn't.
Hindsight is always 20/20. Cops can't arrest someone for a crime they think they might commit in the future.
No, but they could give people actual jail time for crimes they've already committed like domestic violence or stalking. That's what I mean--a lot of these guys had charges but didn't do any real time or experience proper penalties that a charge of domestic violence deserves, now that we know the connection to terroristic violence and shootings. The problem is that cops and courts don't take crimes against women/family members seriously enough, if they did these guys would already be off the streets. Wasn't it only just recently that American politicians have moved to block anyone with a domestic violence conviction from being able to purchase a gun? If these guys couldn't buy firearms that in itself would prevent a lot of this violence.
Unfortunately, any thread with the word "incel" in it just provides fuel for those who talk about them.
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Question?
These guys are indignant that women do not find them attractive?
They feel that they deserve positive reaction to social/dating/outright sexual advances?
Yet if they were approached by a woman they considered unattractive, they would be dismissive, rude, even contemptuous?
But any woman they liked or wanted should feel obligated to respond positively/obediently just because......why, please?
This makes NO sense, if this is their view of humanity.
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Question?
They see nothing wrong in viewing half of humanity as being less than them?
Nothing wrong with seeing half of humanity as sexually subservient?
They truly believe themselves superior?
This is mental illness.
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Karathrace - this can be seen as trolling, posting something to get a reaction. Was this your intention in posting such a controversial subject? Not that it is your topic. Just responding to your comment above.
My aim as a mod is to see less fighting in these forums, not more. I think we all know where each other stands on Incels. The posting of Incel stuff is banned and that should apply to anti-Incel stuff too.
Flagging this to discuss with other mods.
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