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06 Feb 2019, 12:28 pm

Russiagaters are tying themselves in knots now. They say Trump is a Putin puppet but Putin is against intervention in Venezuela and Trump is for it. When Trump was for talking with Russia he was a Russian puppet, then when he puts sanctions on them or withdraws from treaties with Russia he's a Russian puppet but Tulsi Gabbard is for dialogue and wouldn't pull out of the treaty because apparently she's a Russian puppet. This is what happens when the media screams Russia at everything without thinking.


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06 Feb 2019, 12:44 pm

I expect Rachael Maddow's head to explode any day, now.


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06 Feb 2019, 1:06 pm

Do you mean like this?

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06 Feb 2019, 1:15 pm

:lol:


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06 Feb 2019, 1:48 pm

Magna wrote:
Do you mean like this?

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I hadn't seen that before, but I thought of it once or twice.


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06 Feb 2019, 1:53 pm

There are concerns that Russia might revert to its "Soviet" habits, even if they don't actually become "Soviet" again.



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06 Feb 2019, 2:14 pm

What I hate is the NEEDLESS dishonesty about the Russia hoax; Putin is used, playing on old cold war Russophobia or the remnants of it, to disparage Trump because it's believed that such a tool will be more effective than actual facts, but there's such a strong RATIONAL, FACTUAL case against Trump, that I don't understand why the left has to throw away the moral high ground against such a man by stooping to using lies like the Russiagate hoax to criticize him.



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06 Feb 2019, 2:36 pm

Putin is supporting an historical ally, and I suppose it's a bridge too far for Trump to support an overt socialist. This does not prove that Trump doesn't side with Putin on other things in opposition to his own party and intelligence community. It's a fact that Trump lied about his administration's Russia contacts and continues to obstruct justice. Many Republican Senators are now implicated in Russian bribery through the NRA.



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06 Feb 2019, 3:07 pm

kraftiekortie wrote:
There are concerns that Russia might revert to its "Soviet" habits, even if they don't actually become "Soviet" again.


'Concerns' by the arms industry and the media they own.


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06 Feb 2019, 3:09 pm

Prometheus18 wrote:
What I hate is the NEEDLESS dishonesty about the Russia hoax; Putin is used, playing on old cold war Russophobia or the remnants of it, to disparage Trump because it's believed that such a tool will be more effective than actual facts, but there's such a strong RATIONAL, FACTUAL case against Trump, that I don't understand why the left has to throw away the moral high ground against such a man by stooping to using lies like the Russiagate hoax to criticize him.


It's a hatred of Russians that drives it. Created by decades of propaganda in the media and Hollywood.


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06 Feb 2019, 3:11 pm

I have no hatred of Russians. I am of Russian descent myself.



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06 Feb 2019, 4:21 pm

I'm talking about those pushing the propaganda. I suggest studying stuff you disagree with.


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