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19 Feb 2019, 8:07 am

goldfish21 wrote:

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I'm just pointing out which seems more likely contextually.

So on one hand it's racist bigotry if Trump says Latin countries are full of rape, drugs and murder; but on the other hand you're saying Latin countries are full of rape, drugs and murder.

No, it's racist to accuse frightened, desperate refugees fleeing to America of such things when they're trying to escape the people perpetrating those very things.

Since it's agreed that Central America is full of rape drugs and murder, the concern is the rape drugs and murder entering the US by bypassing border crossings.

Those who argue this intentionally or unintentionally don't seem to undersand the difference between gaining admission and sneaking in.

There's no way to know for sure how many are sneaking in or knowing what kind of people they are, because they sneak in undetected.

The only thing to go by is how many are actually caught sneaking in.

Which means there could be ten times more entering unnoticed.

Unless they are asylum seekers, in which there is nothing illegal. And even so, considering that immigrants - legal or illegal - commit fewer crimes than the native born, it's not such a stretch to extend to them some mercy in many cases.

The problem isn't those coming in though border crossings . How many times does something that blatantly obvious have to be pointed out?

How does one know how many crimes are committed by those who sneak in undetected?

How many unsolved crimes are there? How many have been committed without anyone being caught? How many crimes go unreported?

You'll have to do some research and find out where your government's federal crime statistics come from. Don't fret, google will help you.

The point is there are statistics that are not being taken into consideration.

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19 Feb 2019, 8:10 am

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The important thing here is the political influence of money. While we are bickering about poor Hispanics who are more law abiding than Americans, Republicans are stealing trillions from the treasury.

By letting tax payers keep more of their own money?

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19 Feb 2019, 8:40 am

That's a form of deception. The 1% got trillions. You and I didn't get jack.

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19 Feb 2019, 8:45 am

Then way are those of the 80% reporting favorable outcomes?

The ones I see complaining about not getting results are those who contribute the least.

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19 Feb 2019, 10:02 am

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Then way are those of the 80% reporting favorable outcomes?

The ones I see complaining about not getting results are those who contribute the least.

You sold out for pennies. People are getting lower tax refunds and they aren't happy about it.

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19 Feb 2019, 10:46 am

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Then way are those of the 80% reporting favorable outcomes?

The ones I see complaining about not getting results are those who contribute the least.

You sold out for pennies. People are getting lower tax refunds and they aren't happy about it.

How did I sell out for pennies?

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19 Feb 2019, 11:03 am

Many people are getting reduced tax refunds under the Trump revisions.

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19 Feb 2019, 12:22 pm

The US gives Israel $4.5 billion a year, which they have used to keep black people out of the country with a "barrier". They also built a wall in the West Bank which stole land from Palestinians. There's already a wall in 3 states in the US. When you have corrupt politician frauds just opposing something cause it's Trump then you have gone too far.

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19 Feb 2019, 1:23 pm

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Many people are getting reduced tax refunds under the Trump revisions.

I'm not necessarily in favor of it. Certainly not enough to defend it. But the left acts so apoplectic over virtually everything, I'm naturally suspicious of it being an actual problem.

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19 Feb 2019, 3:57 pm

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I say: "AMEN! AND AMEN," bro' AspE!

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19 Feb 2019, 4:00 pm

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EzraS wrote:

Kraichgauer wrote:

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No, it's racist to accuse frightened, desperate refugees fleeing to America of such things when they're trying to escape the people perpetrating those very things.

Since it's agreed that Central America is full of rape drugs and murder, the concern is the rape drugs and murder entering the US by bypassing border crossings.

Those who argue this intentionally or unintentionally don't seem to undersand the difference between gaining admission and sneaking in.

There's no way to know for sure how many are sneaking in or knowing what kind of people they are, because they sneak in undetected.

The only thing to go by is how many are actually caught sneaking in.

Which means there could be ten times more entering unnoticed.

If you're going to get hyperbolic, why stop there?

ThErE cOuLd Be BiLlIoNs TiMeS mOrE eNtErInG uNnOtIcEd!1!1 :roll:

I laughed so hard I ended up having a coughing fit. :lol:

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20 Feb 2019, 12:24 pm

OAC has been silent as her country is openly trying to remove a socialist leader of another country. She's a fraud.

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20 Feb 2019, 9:56 pm

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OAC has been silent as her country is openly trying to remove a socialist leader of another country. She's a fraud.

A leader who has gotten rich while his people starve, and who has done everything to tarnish the good name of socialism.

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21 Feb 2019, 11:53 am

Kraichgauer wrote:

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OAC has been silent as her country is openly trying to remove a socialist leader of another country. She's a fraud.

A leader who has gotten rich while his people starve, and who has done everything to tarnish the good name of socialism.

Thanks for proving my point. You are listening to the same war mongering media and politicians. The US doesn't intervene because people suffer. Socialism doesn't have a good name to tarnish. Socialism causes misery and starvation.

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21 Feb 2019, 12:15 pm

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A leader who has gotten rich while his people starve, and who has done everything to tarnish the good name of socialism.

Right. That stellar track record and pristine reputation that socialism definitely had before Venezuela.

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21 Feb 2019, 2:33 pm

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A leader who has gotten rich while his people starve, and who has done everything to tarnish the good name of socialism.

Right. That stellar track record and pristine reputation that socialism definitely had before Venezuela.

Combine the right amount of socialism with the right amount of capitalism, and it'll work fine.

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