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19 Feb 2019, 4:43 am

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I'm not the one who pointed to Breitbart.


So, they're still racist and evil.


So why use that as a comparison to left wing media and entertainment.



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19 Feb 2019, 6:10 am

EzraS wrote:
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I'm not the one who pointed to Breitbart.


So, they're still racist and evil.


So why use that as a comparison to left wing media and entertainment.


Breitbart, and talk radio is where the race based hatred of Obama was coming from.


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19 Feb 2019, 6:27 am

Kraichgauer wrote:
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Kraichgauer wrote:
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I'm not the one who pointed to Breitbart.


So, they're still racist and evil.


So why use that as a comparison to left wing media and entertainment.


Breitbart, and talk radio is where the race based hatred of Obama was coming from.


So since hatred was expressed towards Obama by Breitbart it's okay if umpteen left wing media sources express hatred towards Trump. And Beitbart is where you're setting the bar on this. Doesn't seem very progressive.



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19 Feb 2019, 8:23 am

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...It's being done in an ugly way now.

Because every day is an all time low.


It would seem if one totally hates someone that's what they're likely going to see.

I hate the man, of course, but I hate what he along with his party are doing more. They will never be forgiven for this.



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19 Feb 2019, 3:53 pm

EzraS wrote:
Kraichgauer wrote:
EzraS wrote:
Kraichgauer wrote:
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I'm not the one who pointed to Breitbart.


So, they're still racist and evil.


So why use that as a comparison to left wing media and entertainment.


Breitbart, and talk radio is where the race based hatred of Obama was coming from.


So since hatred was expressed towards Obama by Breitbart it's okay if umpteen left wing media sources express hatred towards Trump. And Beitbart is where you're setting the bar on this. Doesn't seem very progressive.


The difference is, those racist, right wing media sources told one lie after another about Obama, such as that he was born in Kenya (which Trump built his political career on), or that he was a secret Muslim (which shouldn't matter, as the constitution says there shall be no religious test for public office), that he belonged to a radical, black nationalist church (he was a Congregationalist), etc, etc, etc.
Whereas with Trump, it's the idiotic stuff he actually says and does that left leaning comedians make fun of. I happen to see a difference.


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19 Feb 2019, 4:59 pm

Kraichgauer wrote:
The difference is, those racist, right wing media sources told one lie after another about Obama, such as that he was born in Kenya (which Trump built his political career on), or that he was a secret Muslim (which shouldn't matter, as the constitution says there shall be no religious test for public office), that he belonged to a radical, black nationalist church (he was a Congregationalist), etc, etc, etc.
Whereas with Trump, it's the idiotic stuff he actually says and does that left leaning comedians make fun of. I happen to see a difference.


People forget before the Nazi tikki torch brigade (who seem to have made another reappearance en masse in Bulgaria for an international rally) there was the tea party who were hiding under their proverbial "skirts" neo-Nazi sympathisers and future supporters of the today's alt-right. Their rallies they held against Obama were fed by right wing media conspiracies were pure hate. Yet the republican party proudly supported these rallies and therein lies the fundamental problem.

For me this current flirtation with right wing politics (refer to Europe and South America's recent rise of the right) is less about the right wing media, politicians or extreme organisations. It's about the conservative communities who tolerate and secretly support the agenda to protect their precious "artificial white spaces" from the threat of third world immigrants, minority rights and (worst of all) paying for the health, education, welfare of the poor and protecting the environment.

People who voted Trump are really no different from the ignorant masses in Germany who thought they would make "Germany great again" by giving Hitler a go. History repeating itself, not in terms of the outcomes but in terms of the same mindset in the western world. Something fundamentally wrong.



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19 Feb 2019, 5:21 pm

cyberdad wrote:
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The difference is, those racist, right wing media sources told one lie after another about Obama, such as that he was born in Kenya (which Trump built his political career on), or that he was a secret Muslim (which shouldn't matter, as the constitution says there shall be no religious test for public office), that he belonged to a radical, black nationalist church (he was a Congregationalist), etc, etc, etc.
Whereas with Trump, it's the idiotic stuff he actually says and does that left leaning comedians make fun of. I happen to see a difference.


People forget before the Nazi tikki torch brigade (who seem to have made another reappearance en masse in Bulgaria for an international rally) there was the tea party who were hiding under their proverbial "skirts" neo-Nazi sympathisers and future supporters of the today's alt-right. Their rallies they held against Obama were fed by right wing media conspiracies were pure hate. Yet the republican party proudly supported these rallies and therein lies the fundamental problem.

For me this current flirtation with right wing politics (refer to Europe and South America's recent rise of the right) is less about the right wing media, politicians or extreme organisations. It's about the conservative communities who tolerate and secretly support the agenda to protect their precious "artificial white spaces" from the threat of third world immigrants, minority rights and (worst of all) paying for the health, education, welfare of the poor and protecting the environment.

People who voted Trump are really no different from the ignorant masses in Germany who thought they would make "Germany great again" by giving Hitler a go. History repeating itself, not in terms of the outcomes but in terms of the same mindset in the western world. Something fundamentally wrong.



Agreed.


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19 Feb 2019, 6:54 pm

This is what happens when people come to America for asylum because they are in danger and they are turned away:

https://www.washingtonblade.com/2019/02 ... -salvador/



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19 Feb 2019, 9:13 pm

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This is what happens when people come to America for asylum because they are in danger and they are turned away:

https://www.washingtonblade.com/2019/02 ... -salvador/


I'm sure the right is smugly proud of sending her back to her death.


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19 Feb 2019, 9:20 pm

Kraichgauer wrote:
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This is what happens when people come to America for asylum because they are in danger and they are turned away:

https://www.washingtonblade.com/2019/02 ... -salvador/


I'm sure the right is smugly proud of sending her back to her death.


I doubt it. You only think that because you support the left.



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19 Feb 2019, 10:00 pm

livingwithautism wrote:
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karathraceandherspecialdestiny wrote:
This is what happens when people come to America for asylum because they are in danger and they are turned away:

https://www.washingtonblade.com/2019/02 ... -salvador/


I'm sure the right is smugly proud of sending her back to her death.


I doubt it. You only think that because you support the left.


I have yet to find any good will toward the trans community among the right.


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19 Feb 2019, 11:47 pm

Kraichgauer wrote:
livingwithautism wrote:
Kraichgauer wrote:
karathraceandherspecialdestiny wrote:
This is what happens when people come to America for asylum because they are in danger and they are turned away:

https://www.washingtonblade.com/2019/02 ... -salvador/


I'm sure the right is smugly proud of sending her back to her death.


I doubt it. You only think that because you support the left.


I have yet to find any good will toward the trans community among the right.


One can find good will toward the trans community without believing lines like "the right is smugly proud of sending her back to her death". You don't know what the details of this particular case. The article sates that it's unclear what happened.



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19 Feb 2019, 11:54 pm

Kraichgauer wrote:
livingwithautism wrote:
Kraichgauer wrote:
karathraceandherspecialdestiny wrote:
This is what happens when people come to America for asylum because they are in danger and they are turned away:

https://www.washingtonblade.com/2019/02 ... -salvador/


I'm sure the right is smugly proud of sending her back to her death.


I doubt it. You only think that because you support the left.


I have yet to find any good will toward the trans community among the right.


And when you do it's always the misguided "they need help because they are mentally ill, they only think they are the other gender because they are crazy so we should help them by 'curing' them of their delusion" kind of "good will".



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20 Feb 2019, 12:52 am

EzraS wrote:
Kraichgauer wrote:
livingwithautism wrote:
Kraichgauer wrote:
karathraceandherspecialdestiny wrote:
This is what happens when people come to America for asylum because they are in danger and they are turned away:

https://www.washingtonblade.com/2019/02 ... -salvador/


I'm sure the right is smugly proud of sending her back to her death.


I doubt it. You only think that because you support the left.


I have yet to find any good will toward the trans community among the right.


One can find good will toward the trans community without believing lines like "the right is smugly proud of sending her back to her death". You don't know what the details of this particular case. The article sates that it's unclear what happened.


Where is this right wing good will for trans people, anywhere?


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