Peter Ridd's Fight for Freedom of Speech on Climate Change

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29 Mar 2019, 7:43 pm

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In a quick google search, I can't even find anyone debating the state of the reef - but a lot of sources usually held in high esteem, like nature magazine, describing rather drastic and widespread coral bleaching.
Freedom of speech aside... Is he right?

And does the visual impression actually do justice to the damage done? Meaning: did the scientists pick their picture because it looked particularly impressive even to laypeople, while the rest of the area was in ill shape, but the shape would have been hard to assess by laypeople (and possibly Mr. Ridd?)


Ridd has been investigating environmental consideration for over 40 years...
It is a passion for him...
I don't have any PHDs, yet I am a god damn genius in many areas... :mrgreen:

Before we skid off the topic, I suggest we don't... :mrgreen:

It is *factual* that the photos presented were fakes...
I.E. Fake news... :mrgreen:
End of story... :wink:


If I got thst correctly, they were a point sample made to appear as representative of the whole - but not fake.
They were incorrectly used to illustrate something they didn't represent (i.e., the whole of the area).
That's a misleading use, but it doesn't mean the image is fake.
And it doesn't mean the news is fake, either.
It just means that the image doesn't support the news.


The photos were fake in that they were misleading...
End of story...<sigh> :wink:


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30 Mar 2019, 1:33 pm

yeah.... if that's the resolution of analysis you want to keep this at.
personally, I prefer to distinguish between kinds of treacherousness going on, so I can figure out what's going on.


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02 Apr 2019, 5:51 pm

Yea. I read some other sources on this.
The climate-connection to coral bleaching is still the most "trusted" science.
The use of misleading images was wrong.
The guy shouldn't get fired over his whistleblowing, I agree that's wrong, too.

.... "The age of computers has made it so where no one knows what's going on anymore" -D. Trump

Can't tell who's legit here. The courts must figure that one out.
But you're right, the university is doing an awful job.


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02 Apr 2019, 6:00 pm

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The guy shouldn't get fired over his whistleblowing, I agree that's wrong, too.

.... "The age of computers has made it so where no one knows what's going on anymore" -D. Trump

Can't tell who's legit here. The courts must figure that one out.
But you're right, the university is doing an awful job.


Yep...


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16 Apr 2019, 4:37 am

Viva la freedom of speech!
Viva la freedom of thought!
Metaphorical death to perverters of truth!


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Peter Ridd Wins Biggest Victory On Free Speech In A Generation
Gideon Rozner 16 April 2019 , IPA TODAY, PUBLICATIONS, Media Releases, RESEARCH AREAS, Climate Change, Freedom of Speech
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The Institute of Public Affairs has today welcomed the historic judgement in the case of Peter Ridd vs James Cook University (JCU) with Judge Vasta finding that Peter Ridd was wrongly dismissed by JCU.

“This judgement should rightly send shockwaves through Australian universities regarding their commitment to academic freedom and how they deal with academics who hold a contrary view to established group think,” said Gideon Rozner, Director of Policy at the free market think tank, the Institute of Public Affairs.

Dr Peter Ridd, a professor of physics at JCU, was sacked by the university for misconduct for questioning in the IPA’s publication Climate Change: The Facts 2017 the climate change science around the Great Barrier Reef and for public statements made on the Jones & Co Sky News program.

“Many academics are censured, but few are prepared to speak out and risk their career, faced with the prospect of legal battles and possible bankruptcy,” said Mr Rozner.

“Peter Ridd was only able to challenge James Cook University’s decision because of the IPA’s work to ensure he had the financial, legal and moral support of thousands of Australians to pursue his fight for freedom of speech on climate change.”

“Today’s decision is a huge win for academic freedom and for freedom of speech in Australia. This is something the IPA has been fighting for, for years, and we will continue to do so.”

“The case has identified a culture of censorship when it comes to challenging claims surrounding climate change and the Great Barrier Reef. Not once did JCU attempt to disprove claims made by Dr Ridd about the Great Barrier Reef.”

“Fearmongering about the health of the Great Barrier Reef must now desist.”

“JCU has shredded the idea that Australian universities have any sort of commitment to scientific integrity and free academic inquiry. JCU’s actions prove the depth of the free speech crisis confronting Australia’s universities.”

“Australian Universities must now commit to signing up to the model code as recommended by the Hon. Robert French AC in his review of freedom of speech at Australian Universities,” said Mr Rozner. https://ipa.org.au/publications-ipa/pet ... generation


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16 Apr 2019, 7:49 am

The Federal Courts in Australia sided with Peter Ridd.

Peter Ridd was a professor at James Cook University who dared to question claims that the Great Barrier Reef is facing imminent catastrophe from climate change. Eventually he was sacked for not backing down.

But with public support support he insisted that the university undertake some quality assurance of its research, and refused to be censored, for continuing to speak out.

His battle to speak for science against the Climate Inquisition reached the courts, with a three-day hearing in the Federal Court in Brisbane just last month.

The Court ordered:

* The 17 findings made by the University, the two speech directions, the five confidentiality directions, the no satire direction, the censure and the final censure given by the University and the termination of employment of Professor Ridd by the University were all unlawful.

* The issue of the making of declarations and penalty are adjourned to a date to be fixed.

It is very significant that Peter has won on the issue of academic freedom: that he did have a right to ignore the university administrators and continuing to speak out about the lack of quality assurance and also against the disciplinary process he was being unfairly subjected to.

This is important news for freedom of speech and thought and professional conscience everywhere.

James Cook University may have already spent over $1 million in legal fees attempting to silence Peter.


Source: Peter Ridd has defeated the Climate Inquisition thanks to you



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16 Apr 2019, 2:05 pm

jimmy m wrote:
The Federal Courts in Australia sided with Peter Ridd.

Peter Ridd was a professor at James Cook University who dared to question claims that the Great Barrier Reef is facing imminent catastrophe from climate change. Eventually he was sacked for not backing down.

But with public support support he insisted that the university undertake some quality assurance of its research, and refused to be censored, for continuing to speak out.

His battle to speak for science against the Climate Inquisition reached the courts, with a three-day hearing in the Federal Court in Brisbane just last month.

The Court ordered:

* The 17 findings made by the University, the two speech directions, the five confidentiality directions, the no satire direction, the censure and the final censure given by the University and the termination of employment of Professor Ridd by the University were all unlawful.

* The issue of the making of declarations and penalty are adjourned to a date to be fixed.

It is very significant that Peter has won on the issue of academic freedom: that he did have a right to ignore the university administrators and continuing to speak out about the lack of quality assurance and also against the disciplinary process he was being unfairly subjected to.

This is important news for freedom of speech and thought and professional conscience everywhere.

James Cook University may have already spent over $1 million in legal fees attempting to silence Peter.


Source: Peter Ridd has defeated the Climate Inquisition thanks to you


HOOWAH!

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Don't be intimidated by corrupt authority figures!
Don't embrace groupthink!
f*****g think for yourselves!
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17 Apr 2019, 12:04 pm

When global warming campaigners misled people about the status of Australia's Great Barrier Reef, Dr. Peter Ridd of James Cook University spoke up.

He engaged in such over-the-top conduct as sharing pictures of areas of the reef that had been deemed dead, but were in fact experiencing "spectacular coral growth," and postulating that the coral had died and regrown following natural cyclones in ways it has for ages past.

Temporary coral bleaching, not an indictment of human civilization and its CO2 emissions? Heresy!

What was Dr. Ridd's reward for raising important scientific questions and attempting to correct the record about the reef?

He was censured, censored, and sacked.

Think of the chilling impact the university's effort to destroy a scientist's career for speaking out had, not only on Dr. Ridd, but on all researchers at James Cook or any place of learning. The message was clear: "Shut up, toe the party line, or out you go." How many researchers labor in silence, escape to other work, or mouth what their intellect tells them is rank PC dogma from fear of being treated like Peter Ridd?

If unvetted academic groupthink is what you want, this is how you get it.



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jimmy m wrote:
When global warming campaigners misled people about the status of Australia's Great Barrier Reef, Dr. Peter Ridd of James Cook University spoke up.

He engaged in such over-the-top conduct as sharing pictures of areas of the reef that had been deemed dead, but were in fact experiencing "spectacular coral growth," and postulating that the coral had died and regrown following natural cyclones in ways it has for ages past.

Temporary coral bleaching, not an indictment of human civilization and its CO2 emissions? Heresy!

What was Dr. Ridd's reward for raising important scientific questions and attempting to correct the record about the reef?

He was censured, censored, and sacked.

Think of the chilling impact the university's effort to destroy a scientist's career for speaking out had, not only on Dr. Ridd, but on all researchers at James Cook or any place of learning. The message was clear: "Shut up, toe the party line, or out you go." How many researchers labor in silence, escape to other work, or mouth what their intellect tells them is rank PC dogma from fear of being treated like Peter Ridd?

If unvetted academic groupthink is what you want, this is how you get it.


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26 Apr 2019, 10:05 am

Thank God for the National Tertiary Education Union. Sacked professor Peter Ridd won his Federal Court action against James Cook University this month ­entirely because the university’s enterprise bargaining agreement, negotiated by the union, included a lengthy and carefully worded protection for intellectual freedom.

And that is the simple fact. Ridd’s win (he was found to have been wrongly dismissed) was a big victory for intellectual freedom in academia, and its legal foundation is in the commitment of the tertiary union to free speech.

Why is last week’s decision, from judge Salvatore Vasta, so important? It helps to look back at the history of this dispute.

First of all, Ridd is a respected scientist. He was head of physics at JCU from 2009 to 2016, and he managed the university’s marine geophysical laboratory for 15 years. He has expertise in studies of the Great Barrier Reef.

But he held concerns about the methodology used by some colleagues who said that coral bleaching on the reef was a recent phenomenon and linked to global warming.

Ridd also questioned the methodology behind findings that sediment in run-off was damaging the reef.

Ridd spoke to journalists and made public statements about these concerns. He questioned the judgments of colleagues and called on the Great Barrier Reef Marine Park Authority as well as the ARC Centre of Excellence for Coral Reef Studies to “check their facts before they spin their story”.

But the point about this is that Ridd was arguing about scientific judgments. His views may be right or wrong. But they are testable in the way all scientific assertions should be tested — by observation and experiment. Scientific controversies are a staple of the history of science and, eventually, truth outs.

But the university, offended by Ridd’s contrarian views and possibly fearing the impact it would have on its relations with other bodies such as the GBRMPA and the ARC Centre of Excellence, went after Ridd personally, saying that he had breached the university’s code of conduct by not upholding “the integrity and good reputation of the university”.

The university also trawled through Ridd’s work emails and came up with things that reflected on the organisation and some of Ridd’s colleagues.

There was this statement by Ridd: “ … our whole university system pretends to value free debate, but in fact it crushes it whenever the ‘wrong’ ideas are spoken. They are truly an Orwellian in nature.” And this, referring to some colleagues: “Needless to say I have certainly offended some sensitive but powerful and ruthless egos.”

Such statements, in the view of the university, were again not upholding the university’s good integrity and good reputation.

Sensibly, Vasta took the view that Ridd was just exercising his right, contained in the enterprise agreement, to “express opinions about the operations of JCU” and “express disagreement with university decisions and with the processes used to make those decisions”.

Naturally the university doesn’t agree. In a statement last week, issued after the decision, it stood by its view that Ridd “engaged in serious misconduct, including denigrating the university and its employees and breaching confidentiality directions regarding the disciplinary processes”.

“We are a university,” JCU also proclaimed in the statement. “Within our very DNA is the importance of promoting academic views and collegiate debate.”

With respect, it is exactly the lack of commitment to academic and collegiate debate that is the problem.

If the university had taken Ridd’s scientific objections to findings about damage to the Barrier Reef seriously, it’s very unlikely that this debacle — which is highly damaging to the university — would have occurred.

There is another point that needs to be made. The science at issue here is not about whether or not global warming is occurring, or whether or not such warming is caused by humans. What Ridd questioned is whether recent bleaching (which nobody disputes occurred) is itself evidence of warming. Ridd presented evidence — which should have been ­investigated, not summarily dismissed — that bleaching is a recurring phenomenon not specifically linked to warming.

In the court decision, Vasta offered his own defence of intellectual freedom and an implicit rebuke of JCU.

“It (intellectual freedom) allows a Charles Darwin to break free of the constraints of creationism. It allows an Albert Einstein to break free of the constraints of Newtonian physics. It allows the human race to question conventional wisdom in the never-ending search for knowledge and truth. And that, at its core, is what higher learning is about. To suggest otherwise is to ignore why universities were created and why critically focused academics remain central to all that university teaching claims to offer,” the judge said.


Source: The Australian, 24 April 2019



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[i]Thank God for the National Tertiary Education Union. Sacked professor Peter Ridd won his Federal Court action against James Cook University this month ­entirely because the university’s enterprise bargaining agreement, negotiated by the union, included a lengthy and carefully worded protection for intellectual freedom.


I can believe I am saying this but good on the unions...kudo...

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But the point about this is that Ridd was arguing about scientific judgments. His views may be right or wrong. But they are testable in the way all scientific assertions should be tested — by observation and experiment. Scientific controversies are a staple of the history of science and, eventually, truth outs.

But the university, offended by Ridd’s contrarian views and possibly fearing the impact it would have on its relations with other bodies such as the GBRMPA and the ARC Centre of Excellence, went after Ridd personally, saying that he had breached the university’s code of conduct by not upholding “the integrity and good reputation of the university”.


And as a consequence, they trashed their reputation instead...
What Irony...
And let that be a lesson to other corrupt entities...

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There was this statement by Ridd: “ … our whole university system pretends to value free debate, but in fact it crushes it whenever the ‘wrong’ ideas are spoken. They are truly an Orwellian in nature.” And this, referring to some colleagues: “Needless to say I have certainly offended some sensitive but powerful and ruthless egos.”


Kudo to Ridd...



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There is another point that needs to be made. The science at issue here is not about whether or not global warming is occurring, or whether or not such warming is caused by humans. What Ridd questioned is whether recent bleaching (which nobody disputes occurred) is itself evidence of warming. Ridd presented evidence — which should have been ­investigated, not summarily dismissed — that bleaching is a recurring phenomenon not specifically linked to warming.


What I find cringe-worthy is how people miss the point of the discussion and leap to erroneous conclusions that, in this instance, it is all an attack on the concept of man-made global warming...
This is the epitome of bias...
It is an example of how someone's perceptions can be over-ridden to suit their personal agenda through subjectivism/emotionalism...
Hardly a scientific or ethical approach...

jimmy m wrote:
There is another point that needs to be made. The science at issue here is not about whether or not global warming is occurring, or whether or not such warming is caused by humans. What Ridd questioned is whether recent bleaching (which nobody disputes occurred) is itself evidence of warming. Ridd presented evidence — which should have been ­investigated, not summarily dismissed — that bleaching is a recurring phenomenon not specifically linked to warming.


Stick that in your pipe and smoke it, you conforming, groupthinking, non-intellectual, non-academic abominations...
HOOWAH!

And if it wasn't for the financial support given to Peter Ridd, this corruption would have prevailed...
Financial intimidation is usually a very effective deterrent in fighting this sort of perversity...
It didn't work this time...
HOOWAH!


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