Glacier melt on Everest exposes the bodies of dead climbers

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22 Mar 2019, 11:51 am

Nope, no climate change here.. https://www-m.cnn.com/2019/03/21/asia/e ... cnn.com%2F


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22 Mar 2019, 12:10 pm

The last thought to go through everyone of their minds was probably, "What the f**k was I thinking!"


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22 Mar 2019, 2:45 pm

VegetableMan wrote:
The last thought to go through everyone of their minds was probably, "What the f**k was I thinking!"


Or maybe “At least I died trying!” 8)


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22 Mar 2019, 2:55 pm

goldfish21 wrote:
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The last thought to go through everyone of their minds was probably, "What the f**k was I thinking!"


Or maybe “At least I died trying!” 8)


Yeah. All kidding aside, I actually admire people who take on such challenging and risky adventures. I'm an off-trail hiker and backpacker, but that not even in the same ballpark as climbing Mt. Everest. Still, there are people who think what I do is nuts.


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22 Mar 2019, 10:41 pm

Well, it has to melt sometime, lest the entire mountain would be hundreds of feet taller because of ice and snow.


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23 Mar 2019, 12:24 am

At the time they died they were on the surface of the ice. Meaning that the ice has receded back to where it was when they were climbing. Why is that an issue?



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23 Mar 2019, 12:33 am

Many of the people who have died on Everest died by falling into a big crack in the ice in the ice fall they have to cross to get to the summit which is literally entirely covered in such cracks--the climbers usually use ladders laid horizontally over the cracks. The Khumbu icefall is considered the most dangerous part of the climb. Those are the bodies that are showing up now, as the ice melts the bodies that fell into those cracks in the ice are coming to light.

Here's a picture of the icefall so you can see what I mean:

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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Khumbu_Icefall

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23 Mar 2019, 1:08 am

A body that's fallen into a fissure would still be exposed on the surface of the bottom of the fissure. "The majority of bodies are believed to have remained buried under glaciers or snow". Wouldn't that mean the glacier rose after they died and has now receded back to where it was?



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23 Mar 2019, 1:29 am

For those unable/unwilling to read resource material: the ice field is constantly shifting and moving with the daytime sun and refreezing in the cold nights, so the cracks move--some close while new ones open, the towers or "seracs" that form sometimes will break and fall over into the cracks, and ice and snow drifts into them when the ice field shifts and moves.

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23 Mar 2019, 2:21 am

Out of the 297 people who have died on Everest, 13 fell into a crevasse and 6 were crushed under a serac.

Were any of the following climbers who fell into a crevasse found?

Phu Dorje
Harsh Vardhan
Terry Thompson
Dawa Nuru
Shi Ming-ji
Peter Legate
Bhim Bahadur Gurung
Michael Corey O'Brien
László Várkonyi
Namgyal Tshering Sherpa
Mingma Sherpa
Ravi Kumar
Damai Sarki Sherpa

Or were crushed under a serac found?

Jake Breitenbach
Kami Tshering
Tony Tighe
Mario Piana
Blair Griffiths
Gyalu

Also since the ice field is constantly shifting and moving, couldn't that result in bodies becoming exposed?



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23 Mar 2019, 2:37 am

Why are you asking us that when you could just be doing further reading and find out for yourself? We can't read the resources for you. If the information is out there to be found, find it yourself.

Internet search engines and libraries are our friends! :wink:



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23 Mar 2019, 2:51 am

I am discussing a topic in a discussion forum.

Sometimes I ask questions just for the sake of stimulating discussion.

Sometimes I ask questions to challenge a position someone is maintaining.

Or to get them to expound on the position they are maintaining.

Or to see how much they actually know about a subject and or the position they are maintaining.

Not all questions asked are asked solely for the purpose of obtaining information.



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23 Mar 2019, 3:20 am

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noun: rhetorical question; plural noun: rhetorical questions

a question asked in order to create a dramatic effect or to make a point rather than to get an answer.


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23 Mar 2019, 4:19 am

The article is mainly about difficulties in exhumating them...

I didn't study very thoroughly dynamics of glaciers (you may provoke me to do it) but AFAIK snow falls uphill, condenses, slowly travels down together with anything the glacier carries (like stones or dead bodies of the climbers) and then melts on a lower altitude. Speed of the glacier and altitudes it starts melting are free parameters that influence frequency of things the glacier releases.


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23 Mar 2019, 8:35 am

The glaciers are melting because things are warming up. It's happening all around the world.

EzraS should join trump's future gravity skeptic panel.. and then, who knows, maybe on to bigger and better things like The Space Force!


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23 Mar 2019, 8:39 am

Creepy