What artists would you call timeless?
Bach, Johann Sebastian
Beethoven, Ludwig von
Handel, George Frideric
Pachelbel, Wilhelm Hieronymus
Scarlatti, Domenico Scarlatti
Vivaldi, Antonio
... to name a few ...
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shostakovic
da vinci
rembrandt
ann coulter
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My own best five in bold:
Literature:
Homer, Aeschylus, Euripides, Sophocles, Aristophanes, Cicero, Seneca, Virgil, Horace, Terence, Juvenal, Plutarch, Catullus, Julian of Norwich, Boccaccio, Dante, Petrarch, Montaigne, Shakespeare, de Cervantes, Omar Khayyam, Calderón, Rabelais, Milton, Middleton, Goldsmith, Swift, Sterne, Fielding, Johnson, Pope, Blake, Wordsworth, Byron, Shelley, Goethe, Schiller, Rousseau, Voltaire, Tolstoy, Dickens, Dostoyevsky, Pushkin, Gogol, Turgenev, Nietzsche, Schopenhauer, Tennyson, Swinburne, Baudelaire, Balzac, Hugo, Dumas, Sand, TS Eliot and a dozen or two more.
Music:
Bach, Vivaldi, Handel, Haydn, Mozart, Beethoven, Verdi, Schubert, Schumann, Mussorgsky, Berlioz, Tchaikovsky, Wagner, Ravel, Prokofiev, Shostakovich, Elgar, Britten, Walton, Puccini, Debussy, Chopin, Tallis, Boyce, Brahms, Mendelssohn, Mahler, Weber, Scriabin, Strauss, Hindemith, V Williams, Dvorak, Bartok, Grieg and no others.
Painting:
Giotto, Duccio, van Eyck, Fra Angelico, della Francesca, da Vinci, Botticelli, Bellini, Dürer, Bosch, Giorgione, Raphael, Michelangelo, Titian, Holbein Jr, Bruegel Sr, El Greco, Caravaggio, Rubens, Rembrandt, de Hooch, Vermeer, Velázquez, Reynolds, Gainsborough, Hogarth, Boucher, Vigee Lebrun, Constable, Delacroix, Goya, Degas, Courbet, Millet, Manet, Ingres, Cezanne, Renoir, Pissarro, Monet, van Gogh, Munch, Picasso, Klimt, Hopper, Dali, Lowry and few, if any others.
Ooops -- George Sand, Lebrun.
The trouble is that (almost) all the names there predate the beginning of the twentieth century, when feminism happened. I'm more "timesist" than sexist. I absolutely love Lebrun's self portrait in a straw hat; she conveyed her charms as an intelligent, cultured woman better than any male painter of any era could have done there.
I could maybe have included someone like Virginia Woolf in the literature list, too (I did state that I'd probably omitted a dozen or two names), but aside from the fact that I consider her work, quite objectively, to have been second rate, I can never forgive her for the nasty words she had for Mr. Eliot upon his conversion to High Church Anglicanism, however ironically they may have been intended:
I was really shocked. A corpse would seem to me more credible than he is. I mean, there's something obscene in a living person sitting by the fire and believing in God.
I understand. I was just curious because I wasn't familiar with all of those listed.
I might add Mary Wollstonecraft to my list.
I could add many more people of greatness but I chose those with eternal themes.
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I considered including philosophers, scientists and historians in the literature list, but couldn't really see how they might be considered artists.
More literary names (I'm reading them out of my bookcase, this time):
Wilde, Thoreau, Lucretius, Melville, Flaubert, Chaucer, Huxley, Orwell, Moliere, Rilke, Marco Polo, Ovid, Verlaine, O'Kempis, Bunyan, Donne, Marlowe, Hesse, Mann and Emerson.
Julian of Norwich was a woman, though I'll admit to not having read her very thoroughly. I might also have included Theresa of Avila.
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I'm too stubborn not to question the basis of the question.
In some ways people will react with whatever they really like, other people will go back to the roots of their culture (a lot of the classical is sort of that), and at the same time - I really wonder if the easy-to-date decades of music were really a 20th and possibly 19th century thing, that after the early 21st century the mood and sound-pallet will be covered for the most part and if anything it will be pop trying to go back and grab whatever it alienated or ignored previously.
I do think there's an honest claim to be made that if a song, or even just a piece of music, has absolutely sublime emotion and articulates it with painstaking clarity then in a way it's timeless, just that obviously if it's played by a jazz band, if it's played on synthesizer over breaks, if it's 80's hair-metal guitar and drums, the style and motif will be era-bound but the impact won't be.
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Well, H.P. Lovecraft's legacy in literature certainly is enjoying a long posthumous life. I will add William Shakespeare, and Franz Kafka for very much the same reason, as well as practitioners of other art forms such as Vincent Van Gogh, and Salvador Dali. A lot of names I'd list have already been mentioned by others, already.
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Well not the only one who could be considered such.
But for me I'd say Dio is the top timeless artist, he had such a wonderful voice and his songs were all great. I got to see him at the Red Rocks stadium near Denver, on the last tour he was alive for got a ticket for my brother to and it was awesome to see him live. Sadly he died soon after...but his legacy will live on forever.
I still have a shirt from that concert though at one point it ended up going through the wash without being turned inside out and so the image on the front is kind of faded...but I will keep that shirt forever.
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Also I really appreciate metal band that throw classical sounding stuff into the music. Like nothing makes me happier than metal music that reminds me of classical music seems that kind of thing mostly exists in power metal, but its certainly not just limited to that genre. Like a lot of bands from scandinavia the members had musical training from young ages a lot of times in classical music and they turn around and make awesome metal, with musical connotations or whatever that classical artists where using during their time.
Like some people think metal is just a bunch of screaming or whatever, when metal is the only genre I have really heard where bands incorporate some of the classical music sound. LIke not just for an intro or an outro of a song...like all the way through. I mean here is a metal cover of beethoven.
but of course metal is just screaming
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Ooops -- George Sand, Lebrun.
The trouble is that (almost) all the names there predate the beginning of the twentieth century, when feminism happened. I'm more "timesist" than sexist. I absolutely love Lebrun's self portrait in a straw hat; she conveyed her charms as an intelligent, cultured woman better than any male painter of any era could have done there.
I could maybe have included someone like Virginia Woolf in the literature list, too (I did state that I'd probably omitted a dozen or two names), but aside from the fact that I consider her work, quite objectively, to have been second rate, I can never forgive her for the nasty words she had for Mr. Eliot upon his conversion to High Church Anglicanism, however ironically they may have been intended:
I was really shocked. A corpse would seem to me more credible than he is. I mean, there's something obscene in a living person sitting by the fire and believing in God.
more of high-standardist ..
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