I feel like missing out by not socialising at clubs,bars etc

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18 Apr 2019, 7:27 pm

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Once people leave school, their social contacts dwindle to comparatively nothing. Sure, they can meet a couple-dozen people at work, but that's nothing compared to the hundreds of people they encountered every day at school. So to have more chances to meet people and expand their social networks after graduation, it becomes necessary to go to where people gather in large numbers -- bars, clubs, pubs, et cetera. An alternative is a church or other "house of worship".

But between these two extremes is a vast wasteland of individual encounters with neighbors, blind dates, and total strangers


Fnord, your account is so accurate and so well summarized, it's actually poetic. I'm not joking. Kudos.



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20 Apr 2019, 8:35 pm

I went to a club before, it had dancing, karaoke night, pool tables, bar, my Aspergers wasn’t worse back then, it was in 2007. Someone tried to pick me up :( The club is gone now.



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21 Apr 2019, 12:07 am

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From my teens to now (29) I have never gone to clubs, bars and stuff like that. I hardly have many friends and they don't do that stuff either because some have aspergers or autism like me and are more severe than me and are don't usually say a word and are not the types to do those things and so even though I'm milder and able to socialise I hardly any friends who are like me or NT and seeing them on social media at parties, clubs and so having a drink and stuff from school and college makes me feel like a friendless weirdo and a loser and to them I am boring and uninteresting. I don't see the point in me going to a club really or being asked to especially on your own as I said I have few friends, it would make me feel even more weird and awkward, and usually it can be noisy with music that is the same stuff from charts and people getting hammered and shouting and so on. Don't see how it can be fun for me. My weekend evenings are always indoors at home reading, writing, watching tv, playing game etc.
If there's any NTs on here, i'd like to also hear your opinion.


Most auties are bored with "chitchat"...
Most would prefer an intellectually stimulating discussion at a cafe, for example...
We tend to be by nature intellectual creatures through no choice of our own...
I suggest you don't chase other people's rainbows...

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If there are any NTs here, point them out...
I would be happy to chase them away with my superior intellect... :mrgreen:



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22 Apr 2019, 3:11 pm

I was once invited by my college friends to go to a dance club with them.

They told me to meet them outside the club at 11.

Well, I waited and waited and waited. I was the only one there, the place was in darkness and all closed up.

By the time it had got to 12.30 I gave up and went to the chippy for my lunch.



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22 Apr 2019, 3:56 pm

harry12345 wrote:
I was once invited by my college friends to go to a dance club with them.

They told me to meet them outside the club at 11.

Well, I waited and waited and waited. I was the only one there, the place was in darkness and all closed up.

By the time it had got to 12.30 I gave up and went to the chippy for my lunch.


Do you think they set you up?



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23 Apr 2019, 3:24 am

Being aspie means you're quite lucky as you probably have some sort of a passion. Go somewhere which attracts like minded people. If they congregate in a pub, go to that sort of a pub. They're unlikely to be at nightclubs.

I used to go to a writing group which was at a pub. It was male dominated and the men spoke over and patronised the women so I didn't like it but for a guy it would have been ok. My football's on at a pub. Both times - I don't drink. I have lunch at the pub when I go for football. I wish I had a bigger appetite because then I could have Irish food, instead I just have chips and onion rings.

But just generically going to a pub? You're only missing out if you like being around drunken strangers. Same with if you just generically go to a nightclub except more skin. (there's the internet for that haha)

It does depend on the pub though. And things which are of interest in pubs include - board games/karaoke nights/quiz nights. A lot of aspies love quiz nights, you could try inviting your friends to those.

Don't go to places just because they're 'hip'. That's bad enough for NTs and not what we ought to do as aspies. Go to places because they actually have things there which appeal to you.



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26 Apr 2019, 6:34 pm

I might be projecting my own difficulties....But imagine you tried. Would you have fun? Would you be into the atmosphere? Would you actually socialize or just sit in the corner on your phone trying to zone out the noise? If you did socialize would you actually meet people you would wanna know? After all if they enjoy loud environments and alcohol....guess what they would do with their time in any follow up activity. Would you be comfortable in that environment?

I mean as I get into my 30s I tend to romanticize that stuff and wonder if I missed out on meeting people in such an environment....until I realize if I went I wouldn't have fun, I'm terrible at socializing, and if I did meet people I'd have almost nothing in common with them.


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26 Apr 2019, 7:14 pm

JonWood007 wrote:

I mean as I get into my 30s I tend to romanticize that stuff and wonder if I missed out on meeting people in such an environment....until I realize if I went I wouldn't have fun, I'm terrible at socializing, and if I did meet people I'd have almost nothing in common with them.


When you are young you need to gain information about the world to help determine who you are and what you want out of life...

But that doesn't mean you have to embrace social memes such are finding a significant other and starting a family...
It is your choice...

From my age perspective, you are still young, btw...



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28 Apr 2019, 7:27 pm

I've been to bars a few times. They're really nothing special, just a place for people to "blow off steam" with alcohol, food, and socializing without a lot of planning or preparation. Some restaurants will have a bar and something on TV, too. My mother really likes those for some reason, so I've sat at one with her a few times when we went out to eat. You could talk to the bartender or nearby people.

I don't know many people who actively go to bars and clubs at my age. I mainly go out for tabletop games, board games, etc.



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28 Apr 2019, 8:42 pm

chris1989 wrote:
From my teens to now (29) I have never gone to clubs, bars and stuff like that.

You don't have to if you don't want to

I hardly have many friends and they don't do that stuff either because some have aspergers or autism like me and are more severe than me and are don't usually say a word and are not the types to do those things and so even though I'm milder and able to socialise I hardly any friends who are like me or NT and seeing them on social media at parties, clubs and so having a drink and stuff from school and college makes me feel like a friendless weirdo and a loser and to them I am boring and uninteresting.


There are many reasons why someone might have zero friends. Sometimes it is not someones fault.

"Weird" has a negative connotation. But weird is not necessarily bad

"Loser" is completely vague and subjective


Nobody wins everything and if they did, whooptie do


"Boring" is not necessarily a bad thing


What I do not understand is why idiots act like everything has to be so f*****g :evil: exciting and :mrgreen: :ninja: interesting :arrow:


Then ass holes use "interesting" for things that are not interesting or as a way to express they don't like it


Stupiass penises

As an introvert I prefer a certain amount of boredom. Obsessive compulsive disorder. Too many "interesting" things make it :idea: adrenal fatigue :)


I don't see the point in me going to a club really or being asked to especially on your own as I said I have few friends, it would make me feel even more weird and awkward, and usually it can be noisy with music that is the same stuff from charts and people getting hammered and shouting and so on.


If you don't want to go, don't go


Don't let someone peer pressure you

Don't see how it can be fun for me. My weekend evenings are always indoors at home reading, writing, watching tv, playing game etc.
If there's any NTs on here, i'd like to also hear your opinion.




Bars are not magic or special

Go or do not go, but don't worry about it



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01 May 2019, 2:39 pm

I can't really do bars/partying, don't have the money, don't get invited that often, and I can't be getting wasted and staying up late all the time because it screws up my schedule too much. What I do if I want to socialize outside is go to either a bar during off hours, or a coffee shop with a coffee bar and talk to the barista/bartender, it's social, fun, and actually relaxing instead of being the nightmare that a club/bar is during peak hours.



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01 May 2019, 10:21 pm

Bars are loud, crowded, $$, dark (light sensitivity), full of drunk angry customers, dangerous



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02 May 2019, 12:51 am

I have pub here in my town like they do in London, I guess, it said London Pub, I been in it a few times in the past, I wasn’t there to drink, I was there for their food or to get coffee. I don’t go there anymore, it’s too loud, too crowded, they have sports TV, ALOT of men watching sports & cheering very loudly when they is a win.



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02 May 2019, 1:10 am

Kitty4670 wrote:
I have pub here in my town like they do in London, I guess, it said London Pub, I been in it a few times in the past, I wasn’t there to drink, I was there for their food or to get coffee. I don’t go there anymore, it’s too loud, too crowded, they have sports TV, ALOT of men watching sports & cheering very loudly when they is a win.


I think we tend to be more interested in a café style environment where we can actually talk...



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02 May 2019, 1:45 pm

One time, I think around the age of 18 or so, a friend takes me to a party.

I immediately find the nerdiest looking person and we spend the whole time talking about how interesting black holes are.

This is me at these sorts of events, although I'm far less likely to attend in the first place these days.


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02 May 2019, 4:12 pm

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I immediately find the nerdiest looking person and we spend the whole time talking about how interesting black holes are.

Or at least until some annoying extrovert decides to interrupt; "Oh, come on you two, lighten up, it's a party, why aren't you enjoying yourselves like everyone else?!" :wink:


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