Fell in love with girl with Lujan-Fryns Syndrome

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The worst I've done is ask a woman for her shoe size: "You think my feet are big?" - "No, just right."

Anyway, I'll refrain from derailing the thread further. I guess the best I can do is advise the OP to use suitable tact.

The judgmental hostility and sarcasm directed at someone who is simply curious and behaving politely, says more against those dishing it out than it does against the OP.

There are other places I venture in cyberspace where I have found that WP has a bad reputation because of this sort of thing.

@Dog1 it could be a combination of things. I have a combination of disorders. My guess is that if you get into a serious enough relationship to the point where you get to know her family, you'll find out a lot more about it if there's anything for them to tell.

Yes. The OP is not a bad person.

Don't know why a certain few folks are beating up on him.

To Dog!: Welcome to Wrong Planet.

But having said that....

When I made my post on page one of the thread I had assumed that you knew for a fact that she had the condition, and didn't realize that you were just speculating.

So you might want to heed a certain piece of advice that they give to med students: "when you hear hoof beats-think 'horses'- don't think 'zebras'".

The young lady has physical and behavorial traits that folks with no condition at all have (the most common thing), and traits that aspies/autistics have ( at one in 60 its a rare condition), but are also consistent with this LFS thing you're talking about. But that's even MORE rare than autism. Far more rare. You skipped past common, skipped past somewhat rare, and latched right onto extremely rare (and unlikely) to make your diagnosis. That's beyond zebra, and is into unicorn country. Lol! Based upon your data I would say that she is more likely to be just a zebra, or even just a normal horse, than to be a unicorn.

First off, I doubt you've offended anybody. Maybe rubbed a couple of people the wrong way, but that'd be about it.

The problem is you're reading some articles or pages online and then feeling as though you're qualified to diagnose yourself and others, and you're just not. I think the thing that most rubs people the wrong way is the way you say with certainty that you have autism and that she has autism and LFS when you haven't had any of that verified by a professional and it's all just your opinion based on things you've read on the internet. Had you come here and instead said "I believe I have autism" or "I suspect the girl I like has LFD", and stated it as an opinion rather than a fact (which it is, until diagnosed by a professional), you likely would have received less hostility.

[Quote=Dog1]I just really don't want to give up on her.[/quote]Why do you perceive that not diagnosing her with anything is giving up on her? Unless she specifically asks you to help her figure out if she has a condition, or talks about probably having a condition but not knowing what it is, you should leave her be. If she wants to figure out whether she has autism or whatever else, she'll figure it out, or she'll bring it up. Trying to diagnose her is not up to you, and she hasn't even hinted that she wants you to try, so just leave it and enjoy chatting to her. If you think you have autism, why not get yourself diagnosed so you can say so with certainty?

I believe the OP delved into topics that he was unaware are controversial on WP an the autistic community at large.

Some context is needed. Self diagnosis or diagnosing others has always been a controversial topic in the Autistic community. There is a feeling that Autism is a trendy condition, that there are a lot of Autism wannabes who self diagnose to seem cool or excuse bad behaviors. This is believed to hurt “real autistics” by making others think they are drama queens and excuse makers. It is a rare autistic who has not been accused of these things for their Autistic behaviors, has not been told Autism is a fake disease, a politically correct label for being a lazy as*hole. Diagnosing celebrities and historical figures is viewed by some as deluding oneself into thinking one is an unrecognized Einstein or Gates. It is thought to hurt “real autistics” because it stereotypes Autistics as socially awkward geniuses masking the real world struggles of autistics. Thus anybody diagnosing themselves is sometimes unfairly viewed with suspicion.

Self diagnosis and diagnosing the famous has its proponents.