Simon Baron Cohen on heterogeneity and neurodiversity
First there were Hysteroid, Manic, Paranoid, Autistic, Depressive and Epileptoid, which are the aspects of the psyche that together determine our personalities. Then Kanner borrowed from Autistic to form Autism!
How often do we have t go through this? I've explained it at length, and offered you the Humm & Wadsworth Scale (1935) and Rosanoff's "Theory of Personality..." (1921) which you can Google for independently, if you don't want to trust the reams I've already posted here…
Now I'm wondering whether hubris is a common trait of those on the spectrum, or whether it's just a personality quirk of yours .
Bleuler is widely credited for coining the term "autism" in many articles on the web, written by many knowledgeable people. Apparently you're claiming that all these many people are wrong and that the word "autism" doesn't actually appear in any of Bleuler's writings?
To see if that's a possibility, I decided to try looking to see if any of these many web articles had a bibliography.
This article about Paul Eugen Bleuler (1857–1939) lists the following books of his:
- Bleuler, Eugen, and Carl Gustav Jung. “Komplexe und Krankheitsursachen bei Dementia praecox.” Zentralblatt fur Nervenheilkunde und Psychiatrie (1908): 220–227.
- Bleuler, Eugen. Dementia Praecox, oder, Gruppe der Schizophrenien. Leipzig: Franz Deuticke, 1911. https://archive.org/details/b21296157 (Accessed March 28, 2016).
- Bleuler, Eugen. Lehrbuch der Psychiatrie. Berlin: Verlag von Julius Springer, 1916. https://archive.org/details/Bleuler_1916_Lehrbuch (Accessed April 16, 2016).
- Bleuler, Eugen. The Textbook of Psychiatry. Trans. Abraham Arden Brill. New York: The Macmillan Company, 1934. https://archive.org/stream/textbookofps ... e/n5/mode/ 2up (Accessed April 16, 2016).
- Bleuler, Eugen. Dementia Praecox or the Group of Schizophrenias. Trans. Joseph Zinkin. New York: International Universities Press, 1950.
The Wikipedia article about Paul Eugen Bleuler credits him with coining the word "autism" with a footnote referring to the following book: Peter Gay, Freud: A Life for Our Time (1989) p. 198.
I don't have time right now to comb through the above books, but maybe I'll do a word search on the online ones later.
I also found this page which says that the word Bleuler actually used was the Latin form "autismus" rather than just "autism". But that's a trivial difference IMO. I hope you'll agree.
EDIT: I found "autismus" in online copies of writings by Bleuler here (1916) and here (1911). Good enough?
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So you're claiming that someone edited the online copies of Bleuler's books? Who do you think did that, and when, and why?
I did find "autismus" in online copies of his 1911 and 1916 books. See my post above.
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There’s the very widely read Girl with the Dragon Tattoo (the first?) and I’m currently reading King and [oops, I can’t remember the second name] which has one such character, another hacking genius (why hacking? Not one of my talents, for sure) who, apart from some occasional misunderstandings, seems a thoroughly decent guy, and who, according to the cover blurb, was the subject of another book in the series (probably Simple Genius) which I’ll be looking to acquire.
It’s King and Maxwell, about the two most intriguing characters I’ve encountered in thrillers. The story too is a cracker, right up until the very end when it descends into complete silliness! Yet another case of an author, who will consult experts in most fields, always think they can handle anything mechanical themselves, which can result, as here, in some absurd screw-ups!
Why is it that BAP (broad autism phenotype) rarely gets mentioned?
This is a huge blind spot!
Many of the historical figures mentioned earlier and present day individuals like bill gates for example probably just had/have BAP.
BAP isnt a disability but ASD nearly always is.
The presence of BAP in one or both parents increases the odds of autism in the child.
Watched a long youtube documenty on it and it was very clear that in the near future a pediction of autism can be made by a whole genome seq of both parents without the need for pre fetal testing.
In the future with the cost of WGS falling it wouldnt supprise me if it became common place for couples to match their genes before starting a serious relationship, not just for autism but probably all other disorders.
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"The reasonable man adapts himself to the world; the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself. Therefore all progress depends upon the unreasonable man."
- George Bernie Shaw
This is a huge blind spot!
Many of the historical figures mentioned earlier and present day individuals like bill gates for example probably just had/have BAP.
BAP isnt a disability but ASD nearly always is.
The presence of BAP in one or both parents increases the odds of autism in the child.
Watched a long youtube documenty on it and it was very clear that in the near future a pediction of autism can be made by a whole genome seq of both parents without the need for pre fetal testing.
In the future with the cost of WGS falling it wouldnt supprise me if it became common place for couples to match their genes before starting a serious relationship, not just for autism but probably all other disorders.
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Forever gone
Sorry I ever joined
Here's a thread on a closely related topic recently posted in the GAD sub-forum: What is autism? How the term became too broad to have meanin.
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