does anyone else with a.s. feel that life has been a waste?

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02 Dec 2019, 11:17 pm

moral uprightness isn't akin to a democracy, it doesn't matter if a majority or a tiny minority strive to moral excellent and eschew dark dealings. just one person is enough in god's eyes. the rest either will eventually evolve, or they won't.



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02 Dec 2019, 11:32 pm

but to keep in mind 'a waste' - why i'm relating this to the thread...

this has very real consequences which can be abuse, debt, poverty, etc.

Why this disrespect to people in vulnerable positions (perhaps lifelong, and a disrespect they internalize)- but respecting people who literally thrive (monetarily) off of destroying people/countries, harming families, etc?

Not just arms dealings (thats just the most blatant example i can think of), but people like that,. they have kids, families, and are fine. Their kids get decent lives, etc/

No accountability for such people, why?
The 'wasted' people arent wasted entirely because of their (born with) deficiencies/differences/disability ...
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society regardless likes to treat THEM like the criminals in various ways , society chooses not to include them from a young age (perhaps birth), people heap the blame on them, the responsibility of the situation being entirely the person's (when they clearly dont have the ability in the first place ).

It's backwards, so like maybe a life hasn't been a waste.

Maybe it is a story of triumph over daily obstacles, challenges built in to your life that the person cannot get rid of (through no fault of ur own).

Couldn't the 'wasted lives' in reality be led by people such as disingenuous businessmen, arms dealers, organizations misusing funds, dishonest lawyers, legalized scammers, etc.

But it isn't really, since they and their families end up thriving. They just were able to work out what rewards them the most, quickest, and did that.
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So the only thing left to call a waste, i think, is society, people, attitudes, prioritizing and rewarding certain things too much over real values/morals/humanity.

That's where the word 'waste' might truly apply in this case (thread-wise).


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02 Dec 2019, 11:37 pm

this life is a moral/ethical test, the ones who succumb to evil [dark dealings in order to advance ahead of other people by cheating] failed the test and in the hereafter will not advance but in fact spend time in purgatory. the ones on earth who resisted evil in life, will in heaven advance and eventually not need to reincarnate. so it is an ethical choice, as expressed in the book of Matthew 6:24, "Ye cannot serve God and mammon. No one can serve two masters, for either he will hate the one and love the other; or else."



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03 Dec 2019, 12:07 am

Three cheers for kraftie ....... & high hopes for Aunt Blabbie..


Do not know how to express this ... as growing up , am wondering if my being maladaptive behaviour did not actually served me in some manner. Besides being very gullible at most times prior to now.
By 5 yrs old had been taught about concepts concerning the end of the world by some ,.
Unknowingly torturous family by 6 yr. Was introduced to concepts of suicide by parents . Arguements , used as pawn between them. Why not the 2 older nt brothers instead ?
Regarding topics of self destruction . And other very distasteful concepts , would hope to never to introduce to any child until adulthood.Tough things to cope with given , later being introduced to heaven and hell about the same time. Bless their hearts though , was shhoo..d away when asking why questions . And sent off to the encyclopedia for answers .books did not lie . ? And had learned reading and writing 5-6 yrs old. Phonetics , and context was learned early too. Finished the encyclopedia before 7 yrs . Then accidentally was learning by being a autodidact ..
And all the beatings and mental anguish. Is hard ,but if your practiced at seeing something coming
And knowing not to be there before it happened. Is that avoidance behaviour , is that.......? .
After over 10 yrs . Does that become something like ? Foreknowledge . Can write this candidly now? Have applied this many times successfully .
In all seriousness . In my actual life experiences , without exaggeration. The odds of me having lived this long . Were / are virtually nil. Oddly enough , am aware , i did help a few people along my way. And euthanisation was always trying to relieve and tortured mind .And those thoughts . Still looking back ,those people i helped , maybe helped someone else..Or maybe , i was just a good sucker. Sometimes for sure . But other times ,, just maybe not.?


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03 Dec 2019, 12:11 am

you and i and the rest of us here, are all taking the road less traveled, and in the end we will be better for it.



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03 Dec 2019, 12:20 am

auntblabby wrote:
you and i and the rest of us here, are all taking the road less traveled, and in the end we will be better for it.


Ty AuntBlabby ,, but , me thinks i missed a turn off somewhere ... :!: :wink: :wall:


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03 Dec 2019, 12:31 am

Jakki wrote:
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you and i and the rest of us here, are all taking the road less traveled, and in the end we will be better for it.


Ty AuntBlabby ,, but , me thinks i missed a turn off somewhere ... :!: :wink: :wall:

that is only natural to feel we jumped into the wrong lifetimes. it is like taking the polar bear plunge, we're saying to ourselves as we suffer, "what fresh hell is this?!" but when we climb back up out of the water into the warmth of heaven, we're glad we got it out of the way and don't have to do it anymore. it is like what ted turner said about how "life is kind of like a b-grade movie, in that while we wouldn't walk out before the end of it, neither again would we wish to see it again."



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03 Dec 2019, 5:25 am

Jakki wrote:
auntblabby wrote:
you and i and the rest of us here, are all taking the road less traveled, and in the end we will be better for it.


Ty AuntBlabby ,, but , me thinks i missed a turn off somewhere ... :!: :wink: :wall:

We did not take the road less traveled or take a wrong turn we were put there at the beginning of our lives. By now a lot of us have noticed it is the road to hell. We have options not always good ones but we have them. We can continue on the way to hell or even start running towards hell to get it all over with. Or we can get off the road. We might have found another way to hell but there is chance we will avoid hell, a chance that is non existent if we stay on the road we are on.

What was that about autistics not understanding metaphors?


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03 Dec 2019, 10:06 am

Nothing said here can be applied to all ASDers is my understanding. There are certain aspects which it is only possible for outsiders (family teachers therapists etc) to help with. The blame cannot be put upon the autistic person in such cases esp as the mistakes may add up over a lifetime. Thinking of severe ASD


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03 Dec 2019, 11:20 pm

ASPartOfMe wrote:
Jakki wrote:
auntblabby wrote:
you and i and the rest of us here, are all taking the road less traveled, and in the end we will be better for it.


Ty AuntBlabby ,, but , me thinks i missed a turn off somewhere ... :!: :wink: :wall:

We did not take the road less traveled or take a wrong turn we were put there at the beginning of our lives. By now a lot of us have noticed it is the road to hell. We have options not always good ones but we have them. We can continue on the way to hell or even start running towards hell to get it all over with. Or we can get off the road. We might have found another way to hell but there is chance we will avoid hell, a chance that is non existent if we stay on the road we are on.

What was that about autistics not understanding metaphors?


LOOOOOOLzzzzzzzz .. what me...? Surely not ?


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03 Dec 2019, 11:24 pm

auntblabby wrote:
Jakki wrote:
auntblabby wrote:
you and i and the rest of us here, are all taking the road less traveled, and in the end we will be better for it.


Ty AuntBlabby ,, but , me thinks i missed a turn off somewhere ... :!: :wink: :wall:

that is only natural to feel we jumped into the wrong lifetimes. it is like taking the polar bear plunge, we're saying to ourselves as we suffer, "what fresh hell is this?!" but when we climb back up out of the water into the warmth of heaven, we're glad we got it out of the way and don't have to do it anymore. it is like what ted turner said about how "life is kind of like a b-grade movie, in that while we wouldn't walk out before the end of it, neither again would we wish to see it again."


Wait ......? Uhm .. heaven .. please , what is it your identifying as heaven ?

Life is at its best nowadays when . I am asleep . At least can know from lucid dreaming training ., what is the nightmare and what is real. Soorry . Prolly not the most encouraging person at this time.


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03 Dec 2019, 11:29 pm

Life is tough and sleep is one of the best parts of it. The only people who might prefer waking life are probably mainly children (ones groeing up without abuse and not in war torn areas) and evil people like aforementioned nasty arms dealers, disingenuous lawyers, degenerate politicians, etc.--and their families who might benefit greatly from being related.


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03 Dec 2019, 11:56 pm

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Life is tough and sleep is one of the best parts of it. The only people who might prefer waking life are probably mainly children (ones groeing up without abuse and not in war torn areas) and evil people like aforementioned nasty arms dealers, disingenuous lawyers, degenerate politicians, etc.--and their families who might benefit greatly from being related.


Big Smiles .. sincerely thought no one would undertand . What i had written...
Some very Oddly absolutely amazing people on here. :) this has turned out to be a very enlightening thread to follow. :idea: and apparently very enlightened people responding .


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04 Dec 2019, 12:00 am

Jakki wrote:
auntblabby wrote:
Jakki wrote:
auntblabby wrote:
you and i and the rest of us here, are all taking the road less traveled, and in the end we will be better for it.


Ty AuntBlabby ,, but , me thinks i missed a turn off somewhere ... :!: :wink: :wall:

that is only natural to feel we jumped into the wrong lifetimes. it is like taking the polar bear plunge, we're saying to ourselves as we suffer, "what fresh hell is this?!" but when we climb back up out of the water into the warmth of heaven, we're glad we got it out of the way and don't have to do it anymore. it is like what ted turner said about how "life is kind of like a b-grade movie, in that while we wouldn't walk out before the end of it, neither again would we wish to see it again."


Wait ......? Uhm .. heaven .. please , what is it your identifying as heaven ?Life is at its best nowadays when . I am asleep . At least can know from lucid dreaming training ., what is the nightmare and what is real. Soorry . Prolly not the most encouraging person at this time.

my clumsy analogy or metaphor was that being plunged suddenly into the icy winter water is akin to incarnation into this hellworld, and getting out into the warmth again is analogous to matriculating into heaven. before we incarnated, heaven is awakeness, and earth is the dream, but when we are incarnate, it is immersion into a dream with heaven being the awake state that is kept beyond our reach until our time. i hope that made a bit better sense. :study:



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08 Dec 2019, 9:35 am

Had held ontohopes things wouuld be different when , i grew up .aside from a few years ..
Literally .. the consequences of having lived those few years .. in retrospect cost me..
Very badly .. and am not being silly here. Inspite of being told was angel those few years and fighting chronic illness at the same time , Not asd ! If that person , had been married to all those years might still be amongst us..People that targeting me , had not taken his life . To try to get control over me.
And my assets ., so stupid . Only owned a few acres of dirt and a mobile home.worked hard for, And this wonderful relationship . But they had nothing. By gaslighting the authorities and myself , but , my gullibility level had gone away sometime before that. But judicial system there and law enforcement were so fooled by these people . They literally could Not , see the facts . Even firing the victims advocate for court ,that proved the facts. So am holding these and worse memories . So , may reverse this question ?" Has life been a waste ..? " Might never had met this twice decorated airforce veteran . Woulda been merciful if they had killed me instead,but they woulda lost control
Of stuff around me. Was all in my name and they planned on my being stupid.
He Had been raised good christian ,( for , what we both considered that , possibly non advantageous :| ) ,even graduated at a military school . He had contracted a illness,morgellons disease , otherwise very healthy. And we had happiness most all of the time. was this LIFE a waste , is it


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10 Jan 2020, 9:24 pm

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This is not "extreme."

This is common sense. You'd want your child to have no social life? No real friends, no SO, bad relationships with family?

He will be at the bottom of the pecking order in high school. He'll be bullied, isolated and lonely. Kids will snitch on him to the teacher to make trouble for him. They'll be rude to him and ignore him. Play nasty tricks on him. He will never get invited to parties. He'll be humiliated and rejected a lot in life. He will assume people like him and not realize that they are just being polite to him.

If he does find a woman, she'll be either a con artist or completely mentally ill or autistic herself- or all three at once!!


If he gets really lucky he can ruin his 20s and most off himself to try to build a business someone cons him into, get friends who are cons and mentally ill with drug issues and like to be abusive, then add a girlfriend who's all three(trying to figure her out was where I finally started to understand me) and get well and truly utterly f****d. But yeah, I kinda relate. So did my mum a lot of the time. It gets easier to realize you're a regret with time though. Lol.