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09 May 2019, 2:26 am

I've been thinking lately that most everything I do and enjoy is based on sight. Going for walks, playing video games, watching tv shows and movies. Even music is more entertaining when it's in music video form. If I went blind I would probably listen to audo books to visualize what's being written.



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09 May 2019, 4:25 am

If I were to lose sight at this stage of my life I would have huge physical and mental problems.


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09 May 2019, 7:19 am

EzraS wrote:
I've been thinking lately that most everything I do and enjoy is based on sight. Going for walks, playing video games, watching tv shows and movies.


Watching porn. :mrgreen:

Yep, I'm the same.

If I had to decide, I'd rather have my sight than my hearing.
That is an easy one.



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09 May 2019, 8:37 am

I grew up listening to the radio. These days I'll listen to Youtube and just listen to the music while I'm doing something other than watching the video.



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09 May 2019, 8:53 am

I'm kinda getting sick of my sight


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09 May 2019, 11:15 am

Does anyone think it's strange or whatever how so much of what we do daily evolves eyeballs?



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09 May 2019, 11:28 am

^ Evolution has selected for it because it's incredibly useful. And when it isn't, evolution selects against it (e.g. blind cave-fish.) Light has greater information carrying capacity than sound, so it makes sense that it would be dominant.

Another little observation. How would a blind person recognise facial expressions and body-language? If they are congenitally blind, how would they learn that they even exist? As a consequence, some blind people report social problems very similar to those that autistic people often experience.


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09 May 2019, 11:51 am

But, it does have its costs. Your reaction time to seeing something is worse than hearing something.



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09 May 2019, 12:36 pm

Pepe wrote:
If I had to decide, I'd rather have my sight than my hearing.
That is an easy one.


Hmm, I like sight, but I prefer to be able to make music so I'd have to pick hearing.


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09 May 2019, 5:16 pm

What would you dream about if you are blind from birth?Also what “language” do people born deaf think in. :scratch:


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09 May 2019, 5:57 pm

Arganger wrote:
I'm kinda getting sick of my sight


Sell it on eBay. <shrug>

funeralxempire wrote:
Pepe wrote:
If I had to decide, I'd rather have my sight than my hearing.
That is an easy one.


Hmm, I like sight, but I prefer to be able to make music so I'd have to pick hearing.


While I like music from time to time, it has never been big in my life.
I'm rather odd that way.

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Does anyone think it's strange or whatever how so much of what we do daily evolves eyeballs?


My sight is having trouble understanding you. 8O
My brain suspects you mean: "involves" eyeballs.
My emotions don't care. :mrgreen:



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09 May 2019, 6:34 pm

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What would you dream about if you are blind from birth?Also what “language” do people born deaf think in. :scratch:


Very good questions. Both apply to Helen Keller. I wonder if she ever said anything about it.



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09 May 2019, 6:37 pm

Pepe wrote:
EzraS wrote:
Does anyone think it's strange or whatever how so much of what we do daily evolves eyeballs?


My sight is having trouble understanding you. 8O
My brain suspects you mean: "involves" eyeballs.
My emotions don't care. :mrgreen:


I'm not sure if that was my fault or spellcheck's fault. Then again it would be my fault for not checking spellcheck.



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09 May 2019, 6:46 pm

Misslizard wrote:
What would you dream about if you are blind from birth?Also what “language” do people born deaf think in. :scratch:


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Language deprivation experiments have been attempted several times through history, isolating infants from the normal use of spoken or signed language in an attempt to discover the fundamental character of human nature or the origin of language.

The American literary scholar Roger Shattuck called this kind of research study "The Forbidden Experiment" because of the exceptional deprivation of ordinary human contact it requires.[1] Although not designed to study language, similar experiments on non-human primates (labelled the "Pit of despair") utilising complete social deprivation resulted in psychosis. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Language_ ... xperiments


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Ancient records suggest that this kind of experiment was carried out from time to time. An early record of an experiment of this kind can be found in Herodotus's Histories. According to Herodotus, the Egyptian pharaoh Psamtik I carried out such an experiment, and concluded the Phrygian race must antedate the Egyptians since the child had first spoken something similar to the Phrygian word bekos, meaning "bread".[2] However, it is likely that this was a willful interpretation of their babbling.[3][4]

An experiment allegedly carried out by Holy Roman Emperor Frederick II in the 13th century saw young infants raised without human interaction in an attempt to determine if there was a natural language that they might demonstrate once their voices matured. It is claimed he was seeking to discover what language would have been imparted unto Adam and Eve by God.

The experiments were recorded by the monk Salimbene di Adam in his Chronicles, who wrote that Frederick encouraged "foster-mothers and nurses to suckle and bathe and wash the children, but in no ways to prattle or speak with them; for he would have learnt whether they would speak the Hebrew language (which he took to have been the first), or Greek, or Latin, or Arabic, or perchance the tongue of their parents of whom they had been born. But he laboured in vain, for the children could not live without clappings of the hands, and gestures, and gladness of countenance, and blandishments."[5]

Several centuries after Frederick II's experiment, James IV of Scotland was said to have sent two children to be raised by a mute woman isolated on the island of Inchkeith, to determine if language was learned or innate.[6] The children were reported to have spoken good Hebrew, but historians were skeptical of these claims soon after they were made.[7][8] This experiment was later repeated by the Mughal emperor Akbar, who held that speech arose from hearing, thus children raised without hearing human speech would become mute.[9] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Language_ ... xperiments



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09 May 2019, 6:52 pm

EzraS wrote:
Pepe wrote:
EzraS wrote:
Does anyone think it's strange or whatever how so much of what we do daily evolves eyeballs?


My sight is having trouble understanding you. 8O
My brain suspects you mean: "involves" eyeballs.
My emotions don't care. :mrgreen:


I'm not sure if that was my fault or spellcheck's fault. Then again it would be my fault for not checking spellcheck.


I have been caught out by spellchecker from time to time also.
Even reviewing my post a number of times doesn't always catch this sort of thing.

As a default, I don't comment about this because I find "grammar Nazis" petty and tiresome.
But in this instance, I saw it as a valid conduit for the in context joke I presented.
Not everyone might agree. :mrgreen:



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10 May 2019, 2:08 am

Pepe wrote:
funeralxempire wrote:
Pepe wrote:
If I had to decide, I'd rather have my sight than my hearing.
That is an easy one.


Hmm, I like sight, but I prefer to be able to make music so I'd have to pick hearing.


While I like music from time to time, it has never been big in my life.
I'm rather odd that way.


Not really, you're simply not a musician. I can be a blind emcee, but good luck being a deaf emcee.


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