Radical feminists are actually sexist

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I have a problem with all extremists.

I have a problem with anyone who cuts off others in their lives due to their bodies. But especially sexists who refuse to mix with the opposite sex. Either 51% or 49% of the population is the opposite sex. Even if someone is gay, cisgender and very stereotypically their sex (bears, femmes etc) they will likely have family members of the opposite sex and mix with the opposite sex every day.

So, it's unhealthy and impractical to refuse to mix with the opposite sex.

The witch hunting of men, to blame every social collision on the man, happens just as much in places claimedly of autistic support

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I think you're both rather missing the thrust of the discussion at hand. As the OP states, despite its name, radical feminism is not "extremist" feminism or "Nation of Islam" feminism, nor is it even particularly radical. Radical feminism is a conservative form of pseudo-feminism which can be distinguished from liberal feminisms primarily by its support for sex essentialism, opposition to most sexual activity, and opposition to heterosexuality (favouring political lesbianism). While all three of these concepts are somewhat controversial among self-identified radical feminists, it's fair to say that a substantial majority of radfems support each of these.

As a proud liberal intersectional feminist, I find radical feminism pretty abhorrent - it obviously lends itself strongly to transphobia, biphobia, preservation of the gender binary, and sexual repression. It's a controlling, conservative ideology that broadly views women as incapable of independent thought - for example, a woman who chooses to have sex with a man has been tricked. In this regard, it shares an awful lot in common with religious conservativism, and indeed the two groups are frequent bedfellows - religious conservatives know they'll get more sympathy if they wrap transphobic arguments up as "feminist". Radfems also have a tendency to view other forms of oppression (particularly homophobia but also racism, poverty, etc) as derived from patriarchy, which is obviously nonsense.

Now intersectionality, that's a radical philosophy with profound implications for how we view the world - but also, increasingly, a mainstream one. Liberal conservatives now generally position themselves as intersectional feminists, for example. Yes, there are radfems throughout the mainstream, and there are cultural conservatives opposed to all forms of feminism, but they're outnumbered and they're losing the argument.

So tiresome.Yes there are women who hate men.And men who hate women.Sucks for everyone all around.Haters suck gender doesn’t matter.

Agreed.
Do people really stereotype these days?
How tunnel-visioned/biased/ignorant/foolish do you have to be to think in binaries here?

I keep having to explain how radical feminism is why MGTOW has started to exist. And I don't care either way, because rad fem also exists.

you're missing Boo's point.

They have very little tolerance for men in the bug world. Female spiders are fifty times as big as the males, and usually eat the males after mating. When a preying mantis couple does the nasty the female cuts off the male's head. It makes him more uninhibited, and passionate. And then when they are done she eats the rest of him.

Feminism is a good thing, but radical feminism usually isn't. Radical anything is usually a bad thing.

Agreed.

Radical feminists are man haters and I don't go for that. Men are half of the reason that they're alive because their fathers are in fact, men. I don't stand for people who hate men or women for any reason. We're all here together and we've got to get along.

TERFs (trans-exclusive radical feminists) are the worst.

What we're seeing these days is sadly one of the results of progress. Back in the 80s and somewhat in the 90s there was a still good reason to be pushing for equality of opportunity. AS such you'd see many of the more influential feminists of the time pushing for just that while at the same doing their best as a collective to keep the fringe radicals from gaining too much control. Unfortunately now that equality of opportunity has for the most part been achieved these more grounded feminists have left the movement and now the crazies have taken over.

What's worse is that technological progress has also made this situation far more extreme than it otherwise would be. Social media has made it all too easy for the nutjobs to push their insane agendas whether it's radical misandry spouting feminists, political shills, social manipulators, and trolls trying to bring everything down for their own sick amusement.

^ Yeah, pretty much. Crazy and/or radical people have always existed, but the internet makes it easier for them to be seen, and not needing to use their own names and faces makes it easier to speak their minds. And yes, it's not just radical feminists. It's also the radicals in politics, rasists, misogynists, religious radicals etc... even among us autistic people there are those anti-NT people sometimes.

This is basically the complete opposite of what has happened.

Radical feminist views have become less popular over the past thirty years, while liberal feminism has become more popular.

Who were the most influential feminists of the 80s? Germaine Greer, Betty Friedan, Andrea Dworkin, Catherine MacKinnon, Gloria Steinem, Casey Hayden, Mary King. Of those, only Friedan and Steinem are associated with liberal feminism, and Steinem held some views we would today associate more closely with the radical feminist movement (although she's since disavowed these views).

Who are the most influential feminists today? Laura Bates, Rebecca Solnit, Jessica Valenti, Holly Baxter, Chimamanda Adichie, Rhiannon Cosslett, Jacob Butcher, Anita Sarkesian, Tarana Burke, Emma Watson, Roberta Kaplan, Ai-jen Poo... these are all liberal feminists. They're much more likely to cite Kimberlé Crenshaw than Greer or Dworkin.

Aside from abortion, what are the other major women's rights issues that the mainstream feminists want addressed?