What would a world without neurotypicals be like?

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22 May 2019, 10:47 am

What it would really mean is the highest functioning ones would become the new "NTs".

In the autism schools I attended there was definitely a pecking order. The higher functioning were the cool kids. Us others were the oddballs.



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22 May 2019, 11:00 am

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I am not sure if I am getting this. I mean. Those on the spectrum seem just as normal to me as those who are not except those on the spectrum understand a lot more of the things I can personally relate to, while those who are not don't want to know or just don't know where I am coming from...
This is just a guess, but I think it may be that while 'we' tend to perceives all of the quirky signals that everybody else is putting out (which is what confuses me), 'they' perceive only those behaviors that identify another one of 'them' to each other (which is why 'they' get along so well with each other). If I could only selectively filter for specific signals, maybe I could identify those people who would be more copacetic with the aspie mindset.

It could be.


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22 May 2019, 11:02 am

EzraS wrote:
What it would really mean is the highest functioning ones would become the new "NTs".
There is an episode of the Hitchhikers' Guide that explains how humans are descended from a race of people who were all placed on one starship to get rid of them -- the Golgafrincham B-Ark, which was two miles long and capped by a bridge that offered a panoramic view of the stars. Its interior corridors were covered in brown Hessian wall-weave, and home to fifteen million unwanted "colonists" in cryonic suspension. The ship was built as part of an elaborate con to exile an unwitting third of Golgafrincham's population; convincing them their planet was doomed, the majority sent them off to another planet, which happened to be Earth. Upon completing its five-year journey, the ship crashed into a swamp, taking the vast majority of its sleeping passengers with it.

The ship was filled with all the middlemen of Golgafrincham, such as the telephone sanitizers, account executives, hairdressers, tired TV producers, insurance salesmen, personnel officers, security guards, public relations executives, and management consultants.

As a result, their descendants over-ran the Neanderthals and became the Earth's new "NTs".


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22 May 2019, 11:55 am

Fnord wrote:
Mountain Goat wrote:
I am not sure if I am getting this. I mean. Those on the spectrum seem just as normal to me as those who are not except those on the spectrum understand a lot more of the things I can personally relate to, while those who are not don't want to know or just don't know where I am coming from...
This is just a guess, but I think it may be that while 'we' tend to perceives all of the quirky signals that everybody else is putting out (which is what confuses me), 'they' perceive only those behaviors that identify another one of 'them' to each other (which is why 'they' get along so well with each other). If I could only selectively filter for specific signals, maybe I could identify those people who would be more copacetic with the aspie mindset.



Bloody hell Fnord I am getting an inferiority complex here. Copacetic? While I was looking it up in a dictionary (which I have to do often on WP) I had a realisation:

NT's enjoy socialising, connecting, the social conversation is often superficial, emotional, gossip,(hate it) using generalisations for dramatic effect and the subject matter is frequently changed in the conversation dynamic. Personally, because I don't indulge in gossip I am often bored, or even dismissed as having a "holier than thou" "broomstick up the ass attitude."

People on the spectrum read voraciously, often have unusual abilities in retention of the content and tend to speak in a more formal, factual, detailed way.
My conversations with people on the spectrum are usually practical, detailed, painfully accurate, focussed on one subject at length, no gossip, with frequent corrections of my miscomprehensions and exasperation about my flippant generalisations and use of poetic license.

An example of a typical conversation with my special aspie guy who recently returned from a trip up Everest:

Me: I bet Hobbits would enjoy Everest and do well up there....( thinking of the difficult terrain that the cute little hobbits battled with in Lord of the Rings with a pinch of romanticism and a touch of dramatic effect)

Sweety: (yes he is) looks at me in absolute horror and not a little disdain, wide -eyed and obviously pitying me greatly, wondering how on earth I survive in this life being so clueless, and as if I had given out military secrets to the enemy at least, and gasps loudly.


" Oh I don't think so, Hobbits are so.....clumsy

He was of course qualfied to make such a comment having climbed Everest I suppose.You see, I really do like these two different conversation cultures, it's exciting, vital, refreshing even sexy in a sense, his thinking is so absolutely masculine, mine feminine, and I learn so much. He, on the other hand has told me that he learns nothing from me in a behavioural sense.

This is not entirely true. When he has been repeatedly scolded for not asking me if I feel better when sick, he may think it in his head but does not remember to actually ask me how I am. When I am livid I deny him "visiting rights," because I have a hot temperament, and it takes me a while to cool down. Then, after 3 years of arguing over this he actually asked me this week how am I feeling. I am overjoyed and a little shocked simultaneously. Imagine that. Never say never.


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22 May 2019, 12:01 pm

"Copacetic" is a term which is usually used by Baby Boomers (or up to a few generations before Baby Boomers) to mean "cool, no problem, kosher." It is not as common as it was, say, in the 1960s.

It's sort of an "old peoples'" expression LOL

You don't hear it much from people from Generation X on down.



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22 May 2019, 5:14 pm

At first it struck me as a word I unfamiliar with but then I recognized it. I can picture Dr. House using it.



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22 May 2019, 7:33 pm

<sing>
"Heaven, I'm in Heaven,
And my heart beats so that I can hardly speak;"

Ok, it is a stretch...
Blame the caffeine :mrgreen:


https://youtu.be/WOYzFKizikU


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22 May 2019, 8:25 pm

A lot less populated


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