Does anyone know how long humans will be on Earth?

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14 Jun 2019, 2:19 pm

We all must embrace the light sooner or later. :sunny:


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14 Jun 2019, 2:48 pm

People have been predicting the end of the world for thousands of year. AND THEY HAVE BEEN WRONG!! !

Sometimes people act on these predictions and have caused their world to come to an end. An example is Heaven's Gate, an American UFO religious millenarian cult based near San Diego, California. On March 26, 1997, members of the San Diego County Sheriff's Department discovered the bodies of 39 members of the group in a house in the San Diego suburb of Rancho Santa Fe. They had participated in a mass suicide; specifically, a coordinated series of ritual suicides, in order to reach what they believed was an extraterrestrial spacecraft following Comet Hale–Bopp.

Another example occurred in the year 1,000 A.D. France experienced a famine in the year 1000. The cause was rather unusual. The year 1000 was a time of extraordinary suffering, for the whole country was seized with a panic, fearing that the world would come to an end during this the millennial year. Thousands went on pilgrimages, deserting their homes and their fields and obstructing the whole normal course of their existence. Since the fields were left unplowed and unplanted and since the world did not come to an end, starvation set in.

The human race has shown the capacity to survive come-what-may. So off-hand I would say probably 80 million years from now when the next time a fragment of a great Oort Cloud Comet impacts Earth.



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14 Jun 2019, 2:57 pm

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People have been predicting the end of the world for thousands of year. AND THEY HAVE BEEN WRONG!! !

Sometimes people act on these predictions and have caused their world to come to an end. An example is Heaven's Gate, an American UFO religious millenarian cult based near San Diego, California. On March 26, 1997, members of the San Diego County Sheriff's Department discovered the bodies of 39 members of the group in a house in the San Diego suburb of Rancho Santa Fe. They had participated in a mass suicide; specifically, a coordinated series of ritual suicides, in order to reach what they believed was an extraterrestrial spacecraft following Comet Hale–Bopp.

Another example occurred in the year 1,000 A.D. France experienced a famine in the year 1000. The cause was rather unusual. The year 1000 was a time of extraordinary suffering, for the whole country was seized with a panic, fearing that the world would come to an end during this the millennial year. Thousands went on pilgrimages, deserting their homes and their fields and obstructing the whole normal course of their existence. Since the fields were left unplowed and unplanted and since the world did not come to an end, starvation set in.

The human race has shown the capacity to survive come-what-may. So off-hand I would say probably 80 million years from now when the next time a fragment of a great Oort Cloud Comet impacts Earth.


Unless we blow our planet up to holy hell with bombs. :mrgreen:


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14 Jun 2019, 3:43 pm

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People have been predicting the end of the world for thousands of year. AND THEY HAVE BEEN WRONG!! !

Sometimes people act on these predictions and have caused their world to come to an end. An example is Heaven's Gate, an American UFO religious millenarian cult based near San Diego, California. On March 26, 1997, members of the San Diego County Sheriff's Department discovered the bodies of 39 members of the group in a house in the San Diego suburb of Rancho Santa Fe. They had participated in a mass suicide; specifically, a coordinated series of ritual suicides, in order to reach what they believed was an extraterrestrial spacecraft following Comet Hale–Bopp.

Another example occurred in the year 1,000 A.D. France experienced a famine in the year 1000. The cause was rather unusual. The year 1000 was a time of extraordinary suffering, for the whole country was seized with a panic, fearing that the world would come to an end during this the millennial year. Thousands went on pilgrimages, deserting their homes and their fields and obstructing the whole normal course of their existence. Since the fields were left unplowed and unplanted and since the world did not come to an end, starvation set in.

The human race has shown the capacity to survive come-what-may. So off-hand I would say probably 80 million years from now when the next time a fragment of a great Oort Cloud Comet impacts Earth.


Unless we blow our planet up to holy hell with bombs. :mrgreen:


We can only hope. :heart:


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14 Jun 2019, 3:45 pm

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Does anyone know how long humans will be on Earth?


No, and anyone who claims they know is a f*****g liar.


https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Future_of_Earth

Scientific Fact


Non-specific speculation. I'll stand by my point, they're able to discuss likelihoods and inevitability, but not specifics. If they promise specifics, (like say, 4 more generations, or 3400 more years, or 'when the Jade Monkey is recovered' or whatever) they'll be lying.


I agree with the last part, but fact is we are a doomed species living on a doomed planet. So many things out there can destroy us forever. :skull:


On a long enough time line the survival rate for everyone drops to zero.


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14 Jun 2019, 3:47 pm

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jimmy m wrote:
People have been predicting the end of the world for thousands of year. AND THEY HAVE BEEN WRONG!! !

Sometimes people act on these predictions and have caused their world to come to an end. An example is Heaven's Gate, an American UFO religious millenarian cult based near San Diego, California. On March 26, 1997, members of the San Diego County Sheriff's Department discovered the bodies of 39 members of the group in a house in the San Diego suburb of Rancho Santa Fe. They had participated in a mass suicide; specifically, a coordinated series of ritual suicides, in order to reach what they believed was an extraterrestrial spacecraft following Comet Hale–Bopp.

Another example occurred in the year 1,000 A.D. France experienced a famine in the year 1000. The cause was rather unusual. The year 1000 was a time of extraordinary suffering, for the whole country was seized with a panic, fearing that the world would come to an end during this the millennial year. Thousands went on pilgrimages, deserting their homes and their fields and obstructing the whole normal course of their existence. Since the fields were left unplowed and unplanted and since the world did not come to an end, starvation set in.

The human race has shown the capacity to survive come-what-may. So off-hand I would say probably 80 million years from now when the next time a fragment of a great Oort Cloud Comet impacts Earth.


Unless we blow our planet up to holy hell with bombs. :mrgreen:


We can only hope. :heart:


Naw spare the cute animals please!

:pig: :albino: :cat: :nemo:


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14 Jun 2019, 4:43 pm

TheRevengeofTW1ZTY wrote:
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People have been predicting the end of the world for thousands of year. AND THEY HAVE BEEN WRONG!! !

Sometimes people act on these predictions and have caused their world to come to an end. An example is Heaven's Gate, an American UFO religious millenarian cult based near San Diego, California. On March 26, 1997, members of the San Diego County Sheriff's Department discovered the bodies of 39 members of the group in a house in the San Diego suburb of Rancho Santa Fe. They had participated in a mass suicide; specifically, a coordinated series of ritual suicides, in order to reach what they believed was an extraterrestrial spacecraft following Comet Hale–Bopp.

Another example occurred in the year 1,000 A.D. France experienced a famine in the year 1000. The cause was rather unusual. The year 1000 was a time of extraordinary suffering, for the whole country was seized with a panic, fearing that the world would come to an end during this the millennial year. Thousands went on pilgrimages, deserting their homes and their fields and obstructing the whole normal course of their existence. Since the fields were left unplowed and unplanted and since the world did not come to an end, starvation set in.

The human race has shown the capacity to survive come-what-may. So off-hand I would say probably 80 million years from now when the next time a fragment of a great Oort Cloud Comet impacts Earth.


Unless we blow our planet up to holy hell with bombs. :mrgreen:


We can only hope. :heart:


Naw spare the cute animals please!

:pig: :albino: :cat: :nemo:


I feel like in a context like this, animals are barely a relevant concern. All life dying spares nothing, and without anything to eat, it would be more humane for the cute and fluffies to die in the blast with everyone and everything else.


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14 Jun 2019, 5:34 pm

The day the babelmid will be built, the human race succumbs to extinction.



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14 Jun 2019, 5:55 pm

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TheRevengeofTW1ZTY - Unless we blow our planet up to holy hell with bombs. :mrgreen:

We can only hope. :heart:


Why would you even hope this. A nuclear war would kill a large number of people. But a vast number would survive and conditions afterwards would be horrible. There would be a lot of pain and suffering. In part because many people have not even thought about or prepared for such a contingency. So consider what you are hoping for is a long drawn out agony on a massive scale.

Also there is no bomb in existence big enough to destroy the planet. All it would do is scratch the surface of the planet. And many many people would survive.



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TheRevengeofTW1ZTY - Unless we blow our planet up to holy hell with bombs. :mrgreen:

We can only hope. :heart:


Why would you even hope this. A nuclear war would kill a large number of people. But a vast number would survive and conditions afterwards would be horrible. There would be a lot of pain and suffering. In part because many people have not even thought about or prepared for such a contingency. So consider what you are hoping for is a long drawn out agony on a massive scale.

Also there is no bomb in existence big enough to destroy the planet. All it would do is scratch the surface of the planet. And many many people would survive.



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Actually I have played both Fallout 3 and Fallout 4. They are games. They are not simulations. They are a far afield from reality.



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Actually I have played both Fallout 3 and Fallout 4. They are games. They are not simulations. They are a far afield from reality.

I know that, but still. :)


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15 Jun 2019, 2:21 am

TheRevengeofTW1ZTY wrote:
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People have been predicting the end of the world for thousands of year. AND THEY HAVE BEEN WRONG!! !

Sometimes people act on these predictions and have caused their world to come to an end. An example is Heaven's Gate, an American UFO religious millenarian cult based near San Diego, California. On March 26, 1997, members of the San Diego County Sheriff's Department discovered the bodies of 39 members of the group in a house in the San Diego suburb of Rancho Santa Fe. They had participated in a mass suicide; specifically, a coordinated series of ritual suicides, in order to reach what they believed was an extraterrestrial spacecraft following Comet Hale–Bopp.

Another example occurred in the year 1,000 A.D. France experienced a famine in the year 1000. The cause was rather unusual. The year 1000 was a time of extraordinary suffering, for the whole country was seized with a panic, fearing that the world would come to an end during this the millennial year. Thousands went on pilgrimages, deserting their homes and their fields and obstructing the whole normal course of their existence. Since the fields were left unplowed and unplanted and since the world did not come to an end, starvation set in.

The human race has shown the capacity to survive come-what-may. So off-hand I would say probably 80 million years from now when the next time a fragment of a great Oort Cloud Comet impacts Earth.


Unless we blow our planet up to holy hell with bombs. :mrgreen:


We can only hope. :heart:


Naw spare the cute animals please!

:pig: :albino: :cat: :nemo:


Yes, let them die in misery in the wild. 8O

Extinction is NOT the boogieman people would have you believe. 8)


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TheRevengeofTW1ZTY - Unless we blow our planet up to holy hell with bombs. :mrgreen:

We can only hope. :heart:


Why would you even hope this. A nuclear war would kill a large number of people. But a vast number would survive and conditions afterwards would be horrible. There would be a lot of pain and suffering. In part because many people have not even thought about or prepared for such a contingency. So consider what you are hoping for is a long drawn out agony on a massive scale.

Also there is no bomb in existence big enough to destroy the planet. All it would do is scratch the surface of the planet. And many many people would survive.



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15 Jun 2019, 2:48 am

in every life the world ends with its end, thus lots of projection in and out of sight

try the The Golem (Meyrink novel)https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Golem_(Meyrink_novel), the q of creation and re-creation, the idea: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Golem
found within that mirroring thing of electrified sands :mrgreen:
(having read all that, <the book of sand https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Book_of_Sand/ & "The Library of Babel")

Or also "the green face" - long description on goodreads: The Green Face is a book about disgust with the world. It was written during WWI, yet is set just after its end, and the populace instead of feeling relief is wandering lost, on edge, searching. It is set in Amsterdam, largely in its more disreputable sections, and what Meyrink does best is create poisoned atmospheres of dark mystery peopled by grotesques. He translated Dickens into German and there is a darkly Dickensian quality to his characters and his urban landscapes, but Meyrink is for the most part a poisoned cynic and so is more like Dickens’ shadow figure. There is a pervasive claustrophobia in his settings, an almost living animal-like claustrophobia; a claustrophobia that prowls. And as one of Meyrink’s major concerns is the occult, this claustrophobia is not just an aspect of the physical setting, it also exists at the mind level and can threaten from within. Meyrink’s characters, at least his main characters, are necessarily wary, if not paranoid, and realize that any solution to their distressed state will have to involve battling invisible powers. And this is where he gets very good, but also where he falters. He was obviously well-versed in a host of occult trends and fads and legitimate movements and practices, so his take on this “invisible warfare” is detailed and authentic and invested with intense emotion, as if Meyrink himself were representing his own real life involvement in such matters, which I believe he was. But he falters in his excessive use of the didactic through long discourses on occult matters. While this is of interest to me, as I have my own history with such things, it does not typically make for great reading in a novel, especially when it interrupts what is otherwise a delectable darkly atmospheric thriller. I can imagine him having great appeal to someone much younger than me, someone into Goth who’s just making his/her way through labyrinths of the occult. In his didacticism, and his general concerns with the psychic nature of his distressed heroes, he reminds me of Herman Hesse. Though I haven’t read Hesse for years, I don’t remember his didacticism defusing his narratives overmuch, but then Meyrink covers much more strange psychic ground than Hesse, and so the didacticism and explication is somewhat justified, if only as an expedient way to describe all the weirdness. This book revolves around a vision of the “Green Face”, a Wandering Jew-type apparition, but instead of being a figure condemned to wander the earth, it is a manifestation of immortality, a union of the spiritual and physical realms that is potentially a savior for all lost souls wandering the earth, looking for a way out of the madness. Meyrink was an inveterate dualist, opposing a degenerate world to a blessed trans-physical realm, but he was no escapist and so his salvation, his way out of the madness, is a complex union of the degenerate with the blessed in the form of a “mystic marriage”, or the figure of the hermaphrodite. As should be easy to see, achieving this is a thorny proposition, and so the path to transcendence is fraught with obstacles and suffering, more madness, more death.