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30 Jun 2019, 5:01 am

No doubt, many of you have seen this before... But it is interesting.


https://youtu.be/ldkAuUgSjdQ


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30 Jun 2019, 5:35 am

Public schooling in America too, is a conveyer belt, designed to produce easily led, minimally functional people, who are no threat to the political class. The mission of public education is to create subservient sheep, unable to have independent or politically incorrect thoughts. Public schools are the least likely place on earth to detect genius. They are set up to "equalize" children.



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01 Jul 2019, 10:33 am

I can’t thank you enough, Mountain Goat, for posting this.

It makes so much sense now that no one in graduate school was interested in my thoughts that autistic people did not need to be cured and maybe just needed to be valued instead. If you’re trying to put global social engineering into place, you don’t value different thinkers.

I have also been wondering why they keep pushing computer sh*t in schools. I was disturbed to learn that they put a virtual reality headset on my five year old in summer school last week. He came home and said he wants one at home so he can “go to another place”. Great.



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01 Jul 2019, 1:34 pm

SocOfAutism wrote:
I can’t thank you enough, Mountain Goat, for posting this.

It makes so much sense now that no one in graduate school was interested in my thoughts that autistic people did not need to be cured and maybe just needed to be valued instead. If you’re trying to put global social engineering into place, you don’t value different thinkers.

I have also been wondering why they keep pushing computer sh*t in schools. I was disturbed to learn that they put a virtual reality headset on my five year old in summer school last week. He came home and said he wants one at home so he can “go to another place”. Great.


Quite an eye opener isn't it. How communistic brainwashing is being pushed in schools and education of free thought is peanalised.
Get everyone to be the same.... Easy control of the masses! Say the right things... Get good results. Think outside the box. Get zero results.

I find it a privelidge to have found this forum, as it does not matter how intelligent or not you all are, you are all generally free thinkers, and also tollerent of each others differences in this free thought.


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01 Jul 2019, 1:42 pm



I've watched this several times over the years. It's brilliant.



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01 Jul 2019, 1:51 pm

Read Marcuse, Gramsci and Dutschke's works (in particular, read up on the latter's "Long March Through the Institutions") to understand how this works. Peter Hitchens, Theodore Dalrymple and Sir Roger Scruton have analysed their impact masterfully.

The Marxist interpretation of history and the social sciences is the only one taught in state schools today. It was the politician Roy Jenkins, one-time admirer of Ian Brady of all people, who brought this about in the sixties, as well as abolishing grammar schools, the only source of upward mobility for the poor.



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01 Jul 2019, 1:55 pm

I've only been exposed to a few professors who were blatantly Marxist.

Even if somebody tried to ram Marxism down my throat, I would resist with everything at my disposal.

Marxism devalues the individual, totally. The proletariat (most of us) are an amorphous mass who are at the mercy of "historical forces beyond our control," according to Marxism.



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01 Jul 2019, 1:58 pm

kraftiekortie wrote:
I've only been exposed to a few professors who were blatantly Marxist.


I only had one. I learned a lot in his class. He was a wonderful professor.



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01 Jul 2019, 1:58 pm

kraftiekortie wrote:
I've only been exposed to a few professors who were blatantly Marxist.

I'm talking more about Marxist historiography and critical theory here than Marxist economics, which nobody has taken seriously since the 1920s. The framing of history as an inevitable battle between oppressors and the oppressed, rather than placing things in their deeper context.

Certainly, this view of history has its value, but it seems to me that the correct unit in history is the civilization, rather than the class.



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01 Jul 2019, 2:01 pm

Intellectuals worth their salt wouldn't survive under a Marxist system----and they haven't up to now in any meaningful way.



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01 Jul 2019, 2:05 pm

I believe in a sort of "modified" socialism. I would been a "social Democrat" had I been a European.



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01 Jul 2019, 2:10 pm

I, too, consider myself a socialist. There is a common misconception that socialism and Marxism are interchangeable, but this is not so; socialism has its roots in Methodism and the Christian Socialism of Wilberforce, Thomas Carlyle and co. It's only recently that socialism has embraced secular Utopianism and cultural/moral/social nihilism. The Labour Party, in Britain, was profoundly conservative on social issues until at least the seventies. The sense of betrayal on the part of my grandparents' generation, who voted Labour their entire lives believing (for a time rightly) that it represented their interests, is palpable.

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Intellectuals worth their salt wouldn't survive under a Marxist system----and they haven't up to now in any meaningful way.

"Intellectuals worth their salt" - do such creatures still exist? The members of what passes for our intellectual class today aren't worth the toenails of Bertrand Russell, Aldous Huxley, TS Eliot, GK Chesterton, Albert Camus and Alexander Solzhenitsyn.



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01 Jul 2019, 2:47 pm

We homeschooled our children. We often heard the objection that our children would be deprived of "socialization". I have come to see that what is meant could be called child abuse called social dependency where children in age segregated classrooms come to have an unhealthy dependence on those of their own age and a corresponding deficiency in the ability to interact with those older or younger.

Here is an interesting link describing a difference between education and learning. It is from a Christian perspective, but that can mostly be ignored if desired.

http://christianpioneer.com/lib/education/educate.htm

They also have a 10 minute video on the subject

http://christianpioneer.com/videos/what ... ation1.mp4



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01 Jul 2019, 2:52 pm

timf wrote:
We homeschooled our children. We often heard the objection that our children would be deprived of "socialization". I have come to see that what is meant could be called child abuse called social dependency where children in age segregated classrooms come to have an unhealthy dependence on those of their own age and a corresponding deficiency in the ability to interact with those older or younger.

Here is an interesting link describing a difference between education and learning. It is from a Christian perspective, but that can mostly be ignored if desired.

http://christianpioneer.com/lib/education/educate.htm

They also have a 10 minute video on the subject

http://christianpioneer.com/videos/what ... ation1.mp4


Yes, homeschooling is the way to go, if you want to bring up intelligent, competent, moral, self-sufficient and decent children, though for this reason, the elites are assaulting it, too. The only woman I know whom I admire was homeschooled.



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01 Jul 2019, 2:53 pm

Prometheus18 wrote:
timf wrote:
We homeschooled our children. We often heard the objection that our children would be deprived of "socialization". I have come to see that what is meant could be called child abuse called social dependency where children in age segregated classrooms come to have an unhealthy dependence on those of their own age and a corresponding deficiency in the ability to interact with those older or younger.

Here is an interesting link describing a difference between education and learning. It is from a Christian perspective, but that can mostly be ignored if desired.

http://christianpioneer.com/lib/education/educate.htm

They also have a 10 minute video on the subject

http://christianpioneer.com/videos/what ... ation1.mp4


Yes, homeschooling is the way to go, if you want to bring up intelligent, competent, moral, self-sufficient and decent children, though for this reason, the elites are assaulting it, too. The only woman I know whom I admire was homeschooled.


I"m all for having a governess. :heart: I do agree that homeschool is preferable, especially for those on the spectrum and those who have individual needs or talents.



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01 Jul 2019, 2:59 pm

I was homeschooled. It wasn’t ideal. If my brother and I could do it over again, we would both go to school.

There definitely wasn’t enough socialization and the education I received was subpar. One can have a decent education through homeschooling if the parents make a decent enough income, though.

I didn’t have enough opportunities to work on social skills and I missed having close and supportive relationships with teachers which I needed.