Why do I mostly hear negative stories about social skills?
When I studied customer service, my teacher always said that a satisfied customer will tell of the experience to three others, but unsatisfied will tell it to ten. Could be the same here; the need to let out steam when things go wrong is greater than the desire to share the feeling of succes.
Some I think just want to be "normal"...
I'm nowhere near "normal", never been, never will be. I have a wife and kids and no, it's not the only thing that gave me fulfilment, not by a far stretch.
So the answer would be: I have no idea, dude
Agreed.
I admire your honesty.
There are pros and cons either way.
There is fulfilment to be had whether one is single or in a relationship.
I doubt there is a perfect situation in either camp.
I was young once too, so I have a decent understanding in general of what most young males go through.
I felt the loneliness and confusion.
Struggled with social expectations.
Fell in romantic love.
Felt the agony of loss.
At my age now, I just have to shake my head and wonder what the hell I was thinking.
One of the benefits of going through tough times is that you can develop tempered strength.
You can learn not to be emotionally dependent on others.
You realise you don't need validation from others.
And this is coming from someone who was initially extremely damaged.
You can learn not to be emotionally dependent on others.
You realise you don't need validation from others.
And this is coming from someone who was initially extremely damaged.
Yes, all this. In my youth, I had no doubt I'll end up in prison or dead before I turned 30.
I've learned to mostly stay out of that type of discussion. I cannot help, even if I understand very well. People are lonely and in pain, I don't want to add to their misery.
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"Facts do not cease to exist because they are ignored." Aldous Huxley
For all I know, people mistook "I wanna be normal" and "I wanna be this person that I'm not but everyone expects" with "I wanna be capable and free, and be actually able to serve with a face".
Therefore... Follow what's "normal" in order to be "happy".
In order to "relate" they say -- but in reality, it's very limiting and the fulfillment is naught but an idea what it means to be socially fulfilled.
As for myself... Fate chose the wrong person to coddle.
I'm socially fulfilled, but I'm asocial. If I ever want any relationship, I'd be as myself as much as possible and would never mask as a means to gain any bond other than to the idea of willful accommodation. I know the difference between the two.
So... I don't feel this 'longing' or 'need', if anything sure I can appreciate yet I have more than enough -- nor do felt obliged to socially fulfill the society's expectations of having any relationship despite the lack of interest, therefore I don't have to put up with it because I have a choice and I won't.
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I once posted what I thought was a supportive message to a person who was experiencing the loss of a relationship and/or the inability to have one, I don't remember which. The response from the OP was a snarky how nice it was that I was happy and rubbing it in to those who are not. So I tend not to do that anymore.
I would much rather see posts about positive things and proactive things to do to ameliorate some of our problems living in a world where we don't belong.
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And sky is the refrain - Gordon Lightfoot
I've learned to mostly stay out of that type of discussion. I cannot help, even if I understand very well. People are lonely and in pain, I don't want to add to their misery.
I think I know where you are coming but consider this:
If someone is lonely, how does it benefit the person if their post is ignored?
I often post simply to give existential recognition to the person. <shrug>
I have seen that recently.
From personal experience, people just ignore my posts if they don't like the direction I am coming from.
If that happens, well, at least I tried and tend to back off. <shrug>
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Last edited by Fnord on 03 Jul 2019, 8:32 am, edited 1 time in total.
I've learned to mostly stay out of that type of discussion. I cannot help, even if I understand very well. People are lonely and in pain, I don't want to add to their misery.
I think I know where you are coming but consider this:
If someone is lonely, how does it benefit the person if their post is ignored?
I often post simply to give existential recognition to the person. <shrug>
I have seen that recently.
From personal experience, people just ignore my posts if they don't like the direction I am coming from.
If that happens, well, at least I tried and tend to back off. <shrug>
I've walked a few miles in blazingstar's shoes - now I'd rather let more... diplomatic posters deal with the issue.
But the OP seems to be looking for real feedback here and I genuinely think his life might change in ways he can't imagine possible right now.
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"Facts do not cease to exist because they are ignored." Aldous Huxley
The Bait: A tale of misery and a plea for rescue.
The Trap: A snarky attack against a rescuer.
Since they can't (or more likely won't) lift themselves up, they can only feel good by bringing others down.
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I've walked a few miles in blazingstar's shoes - now I'd rather let more... diplomatic posters deal with the issue.
Well, I'm new to these sorts of forums and I am still finding my feet.
The thing is, to grow, generally one must go through the experience oneself.
Human psychology at work here. <shrug>
That is why I generally ignore such advice since I need to work out what can and can't be achieved.
However,
I too am considering the worth at getting involved in these sorts of threads.
There are so many of them.
And I am getting the impression it is usually a pointless exercise regardless of the diplomatic acuity/acumen when confronting someone new who hasn't a personal connection with the person offering advice.
In most situation the following holds true:
-The person has to want to change.
-The person needs to view the person giving advice as:
--A person of authority.
--A significant other.
--A friend.
--Or a simple "talking post" just to throw around ideas.
Based on what I have seen over the years, The new OP often simply doesn't reply further. <shrug>
So, any ideas on how to move creative and positive threads forward? I don't, but I certainly could appreciate thoughtful discussions on almost any topic. The point, for me anyway, is to move my brain forward, to expand it with other perspectives and get me out of my own rut.
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The river is the melody
And sky is the refrain - Gordon Lightfoot
I have many positive social experiences now. I have made friends at the various activities in which I participate and am generally well-liked at work. However, I have not yet experienced success on the love and dating aspect of my life. This may be the one area that may not happen for me until I'm at least in my 60s. I have a lot of experience to make up and I still have a way to go in accomplishing adult milestones.
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*in reply to Pepe*
There actually have been members here who made these type of threads and eventually made changes and progress and found a better life or partners. Most move on and stop posting, Nick007 is still around and often gives good advice and a couple of others drop by once in a while.
Some, on the other hand, openly admit that they don't want to change (even just to improve their own health and well-being) or go out looking for people and things they desire, but wait to be found... It used to exasperate me some years ago so I just distanced myself. It's like banging your head against a wall - Fnord knows it best, he's been incredibly resilient in trying to offer concrete, practical advice in exchange for abuse.
Now I just think it's incredibly sad and futile, a self-fulfilling prophecy. But I had to fend for myself from a very early age and was basically forced to adopt a "I'll do this or die trying" kind of attitude. So maybe I don't understand what it's like for them.
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"Facts do not cease to exist because they are ignored." Aldous Huxley
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