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10 Aug 2019, 1:27 am

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It will never happen in the near future. But just as the FBI has a behavioral unit, someone needs to introduce some sort of systematic testing into the homes and DNA of these families. Then, start keeping track of similarities. As it stands now, the families just say, "we don't know what happened, he was such a good kid." And I say BS. There were signs, they chose to ignore them. Start holding families of origin responsible too, especially until we have more science to understand.


I think you are on the right track. Although parents have limited control over kids who are drawn to right wing websites. Banning hate from social media would be a start.



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10 Aug 2019, 1:31 am

I do know of cases where someone went off the deep end, out of nowhere. They were fine one day and then went manic, with no prior history of mental illness, the next day. They had a brain tumor that finally grew large enough to begin to change their behavior. Those cases are rare, but they do exist. I don't think families of origin should be held responsible in those cases, I just wanted to clarify that.

But just like in cases of school bullying, where families are more and more being held accountable for the actions of their children, it's helping. Schools are sending these kids home and saying, "you deal with them." Or charging parents with the assault and holding them responsible financially.

If the family has been trying to get the kid help, that's one thing. But so often lately I have heard that they were worried, or had notified the cops and the cops ignored it. They need a task force just for home grown terrorism now. Start watching these little bastards!


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10 Aug 2019, 1:35 am

cyberdad wrote:
Persephone29 wrote:
It will never happen in the near future. But just as the FBI has a behavioral unit, someone needs to introduce some sort of systematic testing into the homes and DNA of these families. Then, start keeping track of similarities. As it stands now, the families just say, "we don't know what happened, he was such a good kid." And I say BS. There were signs, they chose to ignore them. Start holding families of origin responsible too, especially until we have more science to understand.


I think you are on the right track. Although parents have limited control over kids who are drawn to right wing websites. Banning hate from social media would be a start.


People, in general, are getting sick of having to think twice about where it's safe to go. So many people are concealed carry certified. We need to get these nuts off the streets, either coming ( Task Forces ) or going ( concerned citizens ).


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10 Aug 2019, 1:47 am

Persephone29 wrote:
I do know of cases where someone went off the deep end, out of nowhere. They were fine one day and then went manic, with no prior history of mental illness, the next day. They had a brain tumor that finally grew large enough to begin to change their behavior. Those cases are rare, but they do exist. I don't think families of origin should be held responsible in those cases, I just wanted to clarify that.

But just like in cases of school bullying, where families are more and more being held accountable for the actions of their children, it's helping. Schools are sending these kids home and saying, "you deal with them." Or charging parents with the assault and holding them responsible financially.

If the family has been trying to get the kid help, that's one thing. But so often lately I have heard that they were worried, or had notified the cops and the cops ignored it. They need a task force just for home grown terrorism now. Start watching these little bastards!


I should point out the police currently employ the view that muslim parents of terrorists are responsible for letting their kids "go wild" and out of control.



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10 Aug 2019, 4:27 am

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But how do we categorize home grown terrorism where there's no particular race targeted, like the Ohio shooter?

Unless there is a social or political motive we don’t call it terrorism. With the Dayton shooter there is little to no evidence that his left wing politics were the motivation for the attack.

For far too long unless the attack was carried out by a muslim we incorrectly did not call it terrorism. Finally that is now changing. I hope we don’t overcorrect and start calling every attack caused by a personal situation or a breakdown an act of terrorism.


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