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06 Aug 2019, 10:57 pm

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When it comes to media outlets setting people on a suicide course, CNN hardly fits that criteria.
Yes, it's what law enforcement reports that matters. When has CNN ever contradicted that?


The old jump off a bridge analogy has to do with letting others do your thinking for you. Going along with whatever without questioning it.

If any news source tells me something, I want to know how they obtained that info. Such as if it was by way of law enforcement providing the details of a forensic examination, or if it was by way of hearsay based on a tip from an anonymous source or something along those lines.

Rather than, the bible CNN said it, I believe it, that settles it.


CNN in fact has a very good rep for collecting sound information, then reporting it as is. It's Trump's fan club that has besmirched CNN's reputation with false charges and imagined wrong doings.


CNN is worse than Infowars. And no that's more B.S. You just ignore any information that doesn't go along with what you already believe. Progressive Bernie fans chanted "CNN sucks". Jimmy Dore has big shows in California where they are all laughing and mocking how awful CNN is. You are being played.



CNN is worse than Infowars - - a bit of hyperbole, now?


Look at what CNN is doing to Tulsi Gabbard at the moment. Their smearing a war veteran for telling the truth about the wars, because the so-called "journalists" on that network are every bit as bought and paid for as the corporate Dems, like Biden and Harris, they actively promote. Infowars is aburd most of the time, but at least they're not invested in maintaining the oligarchy. Yeah, CNN, MSNBC, FOX, ABC, NBC, etc., are far more dangerous because they're little more than propaganda networks.


Infowars claimed mass shootings never happened, and that the mourning survivors and loved ones were "crisis actors." CNN has never, ever stooped so low.


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07 Aug 2019, 3:56 am

This shooter was weird. He's a self-proclaimed leftist, Antifa, Elizabeth Warren supporter, etc., but at the same time he seemed to be very misogynistic:

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/worl ... 40981.html

In high school, he kept "rape lists" of girls and "hit lists" of people he wanted to kill, and would intimidate the students on those lists:

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/worl ... 40406.html

This article I think puts it into context pretty well:

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Connor Betts, 24, joins a long list of mass shooters with records of misogyny. Many have records of sexual assault or harassment of women, abusive behavior toward female family members and partners, and belonging to online misogynist communities.

As a high school student, Betts created two lists of students he wanted to target: Girls’ names were placed on a “rape list” and the boys’ were on a “hit list.” Sources told CNN that some of the female students had turned down Betts for dates; Others had no idea why he put them on the list.

A former classmate said Betts frequently called women “sluts” and talked about violence. One former classmate, Jessica Masseth, told the Daily Beast that he texted her to let her know she was on the list and in the texts, and spoke about “destruction and dismemberment.”

Betts performed during the past year with a band called Menstrual Munchies, known as a “pornogrind” or “goregrind” metal band. The music is often violent and dehumanizing toward women and girls. Song titles for Menstrual Munchies included “C*** Stuffed With Medical Waste – Sexual Abuse Of A Teenage Corpse” and “Preteen Daughter P**** Slaughter.” The album art included images of a woman’s bloody and headless body chained to a bed and an illustration of a woman eating feces.


https://thinkprogress.org/ohio-shooter- ... 50afe5a40/

It's notable the gunman killed his sister in the shooting, though it's unknown whether it was his intent to kill her or if she just got caught up in it.


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07 Aug 2019, 4:14 am

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This shooter was weird. He's a self-proclaimed leftist, Antifa, Elizabeth Warren supporter, etc., but at the same time he seemed to be very misogynistic:

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/worl ... 40981.html

In high school, he kept "rape lists" of girls and "hit lists" of people he wanted to kill, and would intimidate the students on those lists:

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/worl ... 40406.html

This article I think puts it into context pretty well:

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Connor Betts, 24, joins a long list of mass shooters with records of misogyny. Many have records of sexual assault or harassment of women, abusive behavior toward female family members and partners, and belonging to online misogynist communities.

As a high school student, Betts created two lists of students he wanted to target: Girls’ names were placed on a “rape list” and the boys’ were on a “hit list.” Sources told CNN that some of the female students had turned down Betts for dates; Others had no idea why he put them on the list.

A former classmate said Betts frequently called women “sluts” and talked about violence. One former classmate, Jessica Masseth, told the Daily Beast that he texted her to let her know she was on the list and in the texts, and spoke about “destruction and dismemberment.”

Betts performed during the past year with a band called Menstrual Munchies, known as a “pornogrind” or “goregrind” metal band. The music is often violent and dehumanizing toward women and girls. Song titles for Menstrual Munchies included “C*** Stuffed With Medical Waste – Sexual Abuse Of A Teenage Corpse” and “Preteen Daughter P**** Slaughter.” The album art included images of a woman’s bloody and headless body chained to a bed and an illustration of a woman eating feces.


https://thinkprogress.org/ohio-shooter- ... 50afe5a40/

It's notable the gunman killed his sister in the shooting, though it's unknown whether it was his intent to kill her or if she just got caught up in it.


Another words a “Bernie Bro” stereotype.

Like the Las Vegas concert shooter this might be a case where we never find out the motive.


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07 Aug 2019, 4:29 am

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Another words a “Bernie Bro” stereotype.

Like the Las Vegas concert shooter this might be a case where we never find out the motive.


I think it would unfair to cast this guy as some type of democrat stalwart. He might be from a working class family and so naturally hates the GOP, could have picked it up from his parents.

His rape list/kill list and need to mass murder stems from something deeper, It's not like the other shooters who are claiming to fight for the white race like Tarrant and the El Paso guy so targeted ethnics.



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17 Aug 2019, 2:05 am

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This shooter was weird. He's a self-proclaimed leftist, Antifa, Elizabeth Warren supporter, etc., but at the same time he seemed to be very misogynistic:

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/worl ... 40981.html

In high school, he kept "rape lists" of girls and "hit lists" of people he wanted to kill, and would intimidate the students on those lists:

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/worl ... 40406.html

This article I think puts it into context pretty well:

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Connor Betts, 24, joins a long list of mass shooters with records of misogyny. Many have records of sexual assault or harassment of women, abusive behavior toward female family members and partners, and belonging to online misogynist communities.

As a high school student, Betts created two lists of students he wanted to target: Girls’ names were placed on a “rape list” and the boys’ were on a “hit list.” Sources told CNN that some of the female students had turned down Betts for dates; Others had no idea why he put them on the list.

A former classmate said Betts frequently called women “sluts” and talked about violence. One former classmate, Jessica Masseth, told the Daily Beast that he texted her to let her know she was on the list and in the texts, and spoke about “destruction and dismemberment.”

Betts performed during the past year with a band called Menstrual Munchies, known as a “pornogrind” or “goregrind” metal band. The music is often violent and dehumanizing toward women and girls. Song titles for Menstrual Munchies included “C*** Stuffed With Medical Waste – Sexual Abuse Of A Teenage Corpse” and “Preteen Daughter P**** Slaughter.” The album art included images of a woman’s bloody and headless body chained to a bed and an illustration of a woman eating feces.


https://thinkprogress.org/ohio-shooter- ... 50afe5a40/

It's notable the gunman killed his sister in the shooting, though it's unknown whether it was his intent to kill her or if she just got caught up in it.







...It has been revealed that the murdered sibling of the Dayton shooter was a transgender male ' though according to what do read, he was not " out " to either their parents or the shooter as such. only to some friend's although with such a bizarre development (stated trans-ness that had not been revealed) 8O. after the main action. who knows???8)


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17 Aug 2019, 4:38 am

We just had a mass shooting here in Spokane Valley. The shooter had opened fire at a work place down the road from me, following setting off a stun grenade. Apparently a police officer was nearby, because he arrived at the scene and engaged in a gun battle, mortally wounding the shooter. The shooter was the only casualty.


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17 Aug 2019, 5:09 am

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We just had a mass shooting here in Spokane Valley. The shooter had opened fire at a work place down the road from me, following setting off a stun grenade. Apparently a police officer was nearby, because he arrived at the scene and engaged in a gun battle, mortally wounding the shooter. The shooter was the only casualty.







...Where? Got a link?


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We just had a mass shooting here in Spokane Valley. The shooter had opened fire at a work place down the road from me, following setting off a stun grenade. Apparently a police officer was nearby, because he arrived at the scene and engaged in a gun battle, mortally wounding the shooter. The shooter was the only casualty.







...Where? Got a link?


https://www.usnews.com/news/best-states ... n-shooting

https://www.khq.com/news/active-shooter ... 26a5c.html


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17 Aug 2019, 5:51 am

Kraich: so sorry. That is scary. We had an active shooter in a small town near us, in a bank. Listening to the news was quite tense.


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17 Aug 2019, 6:32 am

Kraichgauer wrote:
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Kraichgauer wrote:
We just had a mass shooting here in Spokane Valley. The shooter had opened fire at a work place down the road from me, following setting off a stun grenade. Apparently a police officer was nearby, because he arrived at the scene and engaged in a gun battle, mortally wounding the shooter. The shooter was the only casualty.







...Where? Got a link?


https://www.usnews.com/news/best-states ... n-shooting

https://www.khq.com/news/active-shooter ... 26a5c.html








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17 Aug 2019, 9:40 am

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We just had a mass shooting here in Spokane Valley. The shooter had opened fire at a work place down the road from me, following setting off a stun grenade. Apparently a police officer was nearby, because he arrived at the scene and engaged in a gun battle, mortally wounding the shooter. The shooter was the only casualty.

Technically it was not a mass shooting but scary none the less. The 1993 Long Island Rail Road Massacre happened a mile or so from where I lived, on a railroad line I have used often, before “Active Shooter” entered the lexicon. People from my neighborhood were killed and permanently severely disabled. Not fun at all.


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17 Aug 2019, 5:36 pm

Mass shooting or not, something needs to be done beyond the Republican talk about thoughts and prayers, and how this is a mental illness issue at a time when their party is slashing coverage for mental and physical health.


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17 Aug 2019, 5:56 pm

Um. Party politics...


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17 Aug 2019, 6:01 pm

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Um. Party politics...


And you seriously don't think the Republicans aren't sticking their heads in the ground to placate the NRA?


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Um. Party politics...


And you seriously don't think the Republicans aren't sticking their heads in the ground to placate the NRA?


Bill, unless you've been drinking heavily i can't excuse you for not knowing me by now :lol: I don't like either party.


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Um. Party politics...


And you seriously don't think the Republicans aren't sticking their heads in the ground to placate the NRA?


Bill, unless you've been drinking heavily i can't excuse you for not knowing me by now :lol: I don't like either party.


It's too early to drink.
Yet you're seemingly taking the Republican side.


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