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27 Sep 2019, 1:39 am

Like Austria broke free from Nazi Germany.


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27 Sep 2019, 1:45 am

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Like Austria broke free from Nazi Germany.


Austria didn't break free from Nazi Germany. They were given their independence by the victorious allies. If the truth be known, the majority of Austrians probably liked being joined with Germany.
The EU hardly compares to Nazi Germany.


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27 Sep 2019, 7:15 am

And the British people voted for independence. It's Germany taking control of Europe by different means. Their leaders are talking about the EU be an Empire.


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27 Sep 2019, 8:11 am

Certainly been an interesting few days in the world of brexit, all to play for still.



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27 Sep 2019, 4:03 pm

JohnPowell wrote:
And the British people voted for independence. It's Germany taking control of Europe by different means. Their leaders are talking about the EU be an Empire.


Sounds like you have a phobia for your German cousins.


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27 Sep 2019, 5:01 pm

Kraichgauer wrote:
JohnPowell wrote:
And the British people voted for independence. It's Germany taking control of Europe by different means. Their leaders are talking about the EU be an Empire.


Sounds like you have a phobia for your German cousins.


Reality isn't a phobia. It's a phobia when you are repeating paranoid fantasies about a country.


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27 Sep 2019, 5:55 pm

Labour's policy, going into a general election, would be to hold a second referendum. Johnson is under siege from all sides and could face a vote of no confidence. Labour are gathering momentum, with SNP leader Nicola Sturgeon hinting that her party would back Jeremy Corbyn as the leader of an interim government, formed with the sole purpose of blocking a no-deal Brexit. Labour's policy, going into a general election would be to hold a second referendum. No one on either side of the debate mentioned anything about the German Empire!



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27 Sep 2019, 6:18 pm

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Labour's policy, going into a general election, would be to hold a second referendum. Johnson is under siege from all sides and could face a vote of no confidence. Labour are gathering momentum, with SNP leader Nicola Sturgeon hinting that her party would back Jeremy Corbyn as the leader of an interim government, formed with the sole purpose of blocking a no-deal Brexit. Labour's policy, going into a general election would be to hold a second referendum. No one on either side of the debate mentioned anything about the German Empire!


You were saying?


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27 Sep 2019, 6:26 pm

JohnPowell wrote:
domineekee wrote:
Labour's policy, going into a general election, would be to hold a second referendum. Johnson is under siege from all sides and could face a vote of no confidence. Labour are gathering momentum, with SNP leader Nicola Sturgeon hinting that her party would back Jeremy Corbyn as the leader of an interim government, formed with the sole purpose of blocking a no-deal Brexit. Labour's policy, going into a general election would be to hold a second referendum. No one on either side of the debate mentioned anything about the German Empire!


You were saying?



The climate over here is being dictated by the events unfolding in parliament right now. This guy is 3 years late with his message.



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27 Sep 2019, 6:37 pm

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27 Sep 2019, 9:03 pm

In the lead up to the referendum Boris Johnson falsely told people that Brexit would be on UK terms and in its favour "because they need our market far more than we need theirs". I think he knew it was a falsehood at the time, because I see him as someone quite willing to be slippery with the truth if he thinks it to his own advantage. He is a dreadful prime minister because his self interest is placed far ahead of any national interest, and if people are taken in (as they are meant to be) by his "harmless, endearing, buffoon" carapace, then they need to get "woke" and see it for what it really is: camouflage of a personality and set of ambitions for power, which Boris will always abuse. He was a hopeless Foreign Minister, one hoped that the Tories would have learnt from that. They didn't, or at least not in sufficient number.

In 2016 on WP there were 2 very polarised groups posting about the Brexit, the Trump fans generally trumpeting it, because it fitted their nationalist ideology, together with some racists mainly from England. The other group warned that it would be a disaster, and were ridiculed by the first.

Well, sometimes time passed DOES tell. It's a disaster. As we said it would be, because you could read between the lines then and see what a liar Farage and his coterie were, that there was corruption going on there, and he was at the centre of it. He is not called "the tapeworm of UK politics" for nothing.



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28 Sep 2019, 9:15 am

B19 wrote:
In the lead up to the referendum Boris Johnson falsely told people that Brexit would be on UK terms and in its favour "because they need our market far more than we need theirs". I think he knew it was a falsehood at the time, because I see him as someone quite willing to be slippery with the truth if he thinks it to his own advantage. He is a dreadful prime minister because his self interest is placed far ahead of any national interest, and if people are taken in (as they are meant to be) by his "harmless, endearing, buffoon" carapace, then they need to get "woke" and see it for what it really is: camouflage of a personality and set of ambitions for power, which Boris will always abuse. He was a hopeless Foreign Minister, one hoped that the Tories would have learnt from that. They didn't, or at least not in sufficient number.

In 2016 on WP there were 2 very polarised groups posting about the Brexit, the Trump fans generally trumpeting it, because it fitted their nationalist ideology, together with some racists mainly from England. The other group warned that it would be a disaster, and were ridiculed by the first.

Well, sometimes time passed DOES tell. It's a disaster. As we said it would be, because you could read between the lines then and see what a liar Farage and his coterie were, that there was corruption going on there, and he was at the centre of it. He is not called "the tapeworm of UK politics" for nothing.


There's a trade deficit so that's true. The establishment never accepted the result. A person who could be relied upon to stop us leaving was out in place. May campaigned and voted to remain in the EU. She wasn't trying to leave. Now someone else who's been pro EU his whole career is in charge.

It's a disaster because the establishment is trying to stifle us. People learned from their mistakes after the 1975 so making out this was all just about Farage and Boris is pure propaganda. Millions on the real left voted to leave as well as they know what a rancid institution the EU is.


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